They are dealing with abortion horribly!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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A woman has a right to decide whether she wants to be a mother or not. If a woman
isn't ready, who has the right to force her? And who is volunteering to raise that baby
with love and caring when she can't? Becoming a parent is a monumental decision
in one's life and when a child arrives, you HAVE to be ready and if you are not.
you can endanger that child's emotional and physical health in a big way. Ria
is going to look at this child and resent this child every day, who is going to help with that? It isn't
enough for one parent to be ready for a child, both have to be. If they both aren't there
is a big problem.
This idea of Adi being upset makes absolutely no sense to me. They should have
discussed their views on children BEFORE they get married. Evidently they didn't
because they have diametrically opposite views. Adi is just as much to blame,
he didn't bother to find out what Ria's wishes were and now he is forcing her
to do as he wants. He doesn't seem to hear her at all. He is doing everything he can
to force her/shame her into doing as he wants.
And Lovely today absolutely crossed the line. I think Ria put her in her place.
This is a personal matter and Lovely should butt out.
I really enjoyed Lovely in the beginning and I thought she was doing things to make others
happy. But I am now seeing a very different side to her - and what I am seeing is that she doesn't hear the word 'no'. Lovely knows best and everyone must agree with her. It is only about
what SHE wants. She couldn't really care what others want, she thinks it should be done this way, so it will be done this way. Even though she has the best intentions she is always convinced that she is right and her way is the right way. I think she can't be trusted. Because if she gets it into her head that this is good for you, she will do it even if it isn't what you want. She doesn't ultimately respect other people's wishes and the boundaries they have set up. People like this are scary, because they are unpredictable and won't take your wishes into account.
In my opinion, having a baby is an incredibly personal decision and people have a right to decide whether they are ready to be a parent or not. If it is your body, it is your responsibility too -and
no one has a right to force Ria to do something she doesn't feel is right for her.
This show is trying to depict what? That abortion should be illegal? That abortion is wrong? Take these writers and ask them to go and adopt an unwanted child and see what they go through before preaching to the rest of the world about how wrong abortion is.
This was discussed in detail over 4 decades ago, someone should send them a copy of Roe Vs Wade. At least women don't die the death of dogs like they used to in back alleys trying to get an abortion out of desperation or using a coat hanger. Are they trying to take us back to the 1800s? Seriously, this is offensive to women at every level. Women are not cows to be impregnated and made into baby making machines when they aren't ready. Have these writers thought about what message they are sending to the public and how they are making a difficult thing for women, and even more difficult thing?
Newsflash to writers: abortion is legal, women have a right to their body and a right to choose. They aren't supposed to be bullied by their husbands and sister-in-laws into having a baby that they resent and aren't ready for and ruining the baby's life too. Women and Men have to be ready to have a baby. That is ok.

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SportsFreak thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ria did not have have that baby alone..Adi was also involved in the process of conception so he should be involved in the decision making concerning the baby..If Ria was not ready for a child she should have taken the correct precautions first and the show is set in a traditional background so abortion is definitely from the show POV
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Posted: 13 years ago
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OP! I totally agree with you .. I have been holding this view on various other posts but it is really unfortunate that people don't recognize it as a woman's right at all... I love that you quoted Roe Vs Wade.. This is something I was trying to explain to my mother as well that it is her body and there are a no.of considerations and Aditya can handle it very differently...but my mom puts it down to merely having a lawyer's view. Lets not chastise Ria for not being ready.. reproduction is not the only thing a woman is designed for. Lovely has no business interfering. Aditya is the only one who has a say but having said that, it has to be ultimately Ria's decision. Its unfortunate that Ria is branded selfish instantly and Aditya is elevated because he wants a child. What good is bringing in a child into the world if he /she does not get the deserved love and attention? No one wants to be resented by your mother.. Believe me! it does happen and quite often.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: veela

OP! I totally agree with you .. I have been holding this view on various other posts but it is really unfortunate that people don't recognize it as a woman's right at all... I love that you quoted Roe Vs Wade.. This is something I was trying to explain to my mother as well that it is her body and there are a no.of considerations and Aditya can handle it very differently...but my mom puts it down to merely having a lawyer's view. Lets not chastise Ria for not being ready.. reproduction is not the only thing a woman is designed for. Lovely has no business interfering. Aditya is the only one who has a say but having said that, it has to be ultimately Ria's decision. Its unfortunate that Ria is branded selfish instantly and Aditya is elevated because he wants a child. What good is bringing in a child into the world if he /she does not get the deserved love and attention? No one wants to be resented by your mother.. Believe me! it does happen and quite often.


I actually disagree with you that the final decision should be Ria's only. What about Adi? He is the father of this baby should he not have a say? Ria is not a single mother she is married to the father of her child the father should at least be given respect. The baby is not a miracle baby that appeared in Ria's womb, Adi was involved and i believe that he should have a say..Why should Adi be punished because Ria does not feel like having a baby. I think at the end of the day both are at fault because things like having or not having children should be discussed before marriage and it seems Ria and Adi did not discuss such things..I also stand by my previous comments that Ria should have taken the correct precautions if she did not want to have a baby...

The only point i agree with you is Lovely does not have any business interfering
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Posted: 13 years ago
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There should have been no need for an abortion. Adi and Ria are two grown, married adults. They should have taken the necessay precautions at all times. It seems unfair that because they were careless, an unborn child's life hangs in the balance.
And, I absolutely agree that the choice to have/not have an abortion is the woman's right. Her body will be changing, her life, and career will be affected, she will have to adapt emotionally and physically. However, this is a married woman, as such, this should be a fair decision between husband and wife. It isn't right that one partner takes the full decision. This is a matter that affects both of their lives. They need to discuss the pros and cons of abortion (emotional effects, dangers to the uterus, dangers to the health of the mother OR freedom, time to develop a career, grow financially, etc.), whether they can wait a few more years and try then, or have the child and let someone else in the family adopt and handle the responsibility (This way, there would be no death of the child, and they still get to watch the child grow, and they can observe and decide whether they can handle such a responsibility TOGETHER.)
*Just my opinion*
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I see so many conflicting views here. Well as for my two cents worth.

I come from the legal fraternity. I read law in England and have chosen to disassociate myself from the legal fraternity. Quoting a case law does not mean that we can force people to accept facts. For instance esp. in the Indian community domestic violance is still considered as part and parcel of life. How far would you allow a husband to go before we classify it as an abuse. Legally speaking a verbal assault is all it takes for one to even consider divorce in western countries. But being Indians, as well as Asians we sometimes put up with abusive husbands due to tradition as well as the society. I am not saying this is right all I am merely pointing out is that is how evolved our society is in comparison.
Abortion - this is a very sensitive issue. In my country (Malaysia) its not even legal to get one. Our society has not and will not accept such an act esp if they are still rooted to their religion and culture. Well, I do not think it is right to kill an innocent life like that. No matter what it is a lifeform and no one has a right to kill it. Ria being a so-called Londener should have thought things properly before deciding to have sex with Adi (to put crudely). I am sure they could have gotten the necessary contraceptives. First and foremost they should have decided before marriage that they did not want to have a baby not when one is formed. Agreed it is her body but the life inside it is of a separate individual.
By the way, abortions are quite risky. My sis is a gynaecologist, and she will never do an abortion as the process of ripping the feotus from the womb is actually quite gory and inhuman. She has even told us that there are many instances a woman actually can hemmorage and die on the table. So why do we want to go through that? Why not take precautions and be careful not try to think of ways to justify the killing of an innocent lifeform.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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married or otherwise, it is law that it is her right. I am simply stating the law...I am not at all saying she is not to consult her husband.. but he wants it and she absolutely doesn't.. where does one come about a balance in that? forget about taking care of a child, she is not even ready to carry the child, for reasons best known to her... Also, Aditya has not been very understanding or a saint in the entire thing.. He has also gone behind her back to get the doc to say things differently to her. If she is being faulted for taking a decision without his say, then he shd also be faulted for backhandedly playing at imposing his on her. .. If you read my comments on other posts (if and when you come across them), you will see that i don't think the issue is black or white at all... I think its very sensitive...we are talking about an unborn child etc etc... but if we r to get technical, we see millions dying everyday do we go about doing our best to save them all all the time? I know we must try where we have a chance and an opportunity...if the baby is born then, she gives up her right for her husband's and child's.. if she aborts it, then the foetus loses the opportunity to exist. But if it is born against her wishes, she has allowed her life to be influenced by many factors she was not ready for. It is certainly a compromise of her rights.They should have taken precautions.. may be they did, may be they din't but it has happened and she does not want it and it is not a criminal act. I am just randomly throwing points... an act of abortion does not become right because a child will be deformed, or a girl is unmarried and therefore, it shd not even become wrong because a child may be healthy and a woman married...if a woman knows the repercussions of an act, (may be husband divorcing her, separation etc etc ) and still goes ahead with it, she should not be vilified because she exercised her right..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: veela

she has allowed her life to be influenced by many factors she was not ready for. It is certainly a compromise of her rights.They should have taken precautions.. may be they did, may be they din't but it has happened and she does not want it and it is not a criminal act. I am just randomly throwing points... an act of abortion does not become right because a child will be deformed, or a girl is unmarried and therefore, it shd not even become wrong because a child may be healthy and a woman married...if a woman knows the repercussions of an act, (may be husband divorcing her, separation etc etc ) and still goes ahead with it, she should not be vilified because she exercised her right..

Veela, love this underlined portion, as everyone says here, abortion is a controversial and conflicted issue..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I just find the level of humanity in your posts amusing. Let alone women's rights, you have forgotten to discuss fundamental human rights.. A right that obviously, the unborn child doesn't have because she/he is never going to see the light of this world.

We can go round and round in circles all day discussing women's rights.. Obviously, we can never find the time to discuss the rights of an unborn child right? Cuz apparently, the baby's very fate lies at the hand of a mother. Ofcourse, babies can't think or feel, so clearly we don't care about their pain.

I completely understand cases where abortion is warranted in terms of danger to the mother's health or a teen pregnancy. I will, however, never accept the murder of an unborn child by a mature parent who has the means, but just will not take responsibility for her actions. She should have thought more carefully before she made the mistake of not protecting herself. Ofcourse, eliminating the mistake seems to be her selfish solution.

The point about millions of people dying and people not caring enough, shows your level of humanity. Of course it isn't in our power to save a life, but if it was.. The right thing to do would be to save it right? Each individual has a right to live and we have no right to take that away from them. It is not for us to decide.

Do you know the process of an abortion? What that foetus will go through in the process? It's a massacre in the womb.

I know, people speak freely about how a woman who can't take responsibility, shouldn't.. But I know of a person who accidently got pregnant, was diagnosed with cancer and still chose to keep her child -against her husband's wishes. She then wrote letters for every achievement/milestone in her son's life..
If she had aborted the child, she would have have had a greater chance of surviving, since it was at stage one.. But a mother's love was so strong that she kept her child, grew weaker and died a few days after childbirth. Her son is now eight and happy with his father, who raised him.

I am in no way justiifying not aborting a child in unavoidable circumstances such as a health hazard.. I just brought out this example to signify the strength of motherly love and sacrifices women can make for their children.

So what if she doesn't want to take responsibility? Her husband is there. He wants to look after the child. So why erase the happiness of the whole family and ruin a future?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: deebasd

I see so many conflicting views here. Well as for my two cents worth.

I come from the legal fraternity. I read law in England and have chosen to disassociate myself from the legal fraternity. Quoting a case law does not mean that we can force people to accept facts. For instance esp. in the Indian community domestic violance is still considered as part and parcel of life. How far would you allow a husband to go before we classify it as an abuse. Legally speaking a verbal assault is all it takes for one to even consider divorce in western countries. But being Indians, as well as Asians we sometimes put up with abusive husbands due to tradition as well as the society. I am not saying this is right all I am merely pointing out is that is how evolved our society is in comparison.
Abortion - this is a very sensitive issue. In my country (Malaysia) its not even legal to get one. Our society has not and will not accept such an act esp if they are still rooted to their religion and culture. Well, I do not think it is right to kill an innocent life like that. No matter what it is a lifeform and no one has a right to kill it. Ria being a so-called Londener should have thought things properly before deciding to have sex with Adi (to put crudely). I am sure they could have gotten the necessary contraceptives. First and foremost they should have decided before marriage that they did not want to have a baby not when one is formed. Agreed it is her body but the life inside it is of a separate individual.
By the way, abortions are quite risky. My sis is a gynaecologist, and she will never do an abortion as the process of ripping the feotus from the womb is actually quite gory and inhuman. She has even told us that there are many instances a woman actually can hemmorage and die on the table. So why do we want to go through that? Why not take precautions and be careful not try to think of ways to justify the killing of an innocent lifeform.

Thanks for your input. I have seen videos of abortions being done, I have also seen pictures of the ripped limbs, damaged feotus and other gruesome details. We had to do an assignment for Human& Social Biology in class. It made me wonder how any one could ever be so unaffected to such situations

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