Discussion Thread - October 24 - 28, 2011

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Discussion thread for this week 😊

If you want to talk about the episode before the WU is posted or before 5pm EST (2:30am IST) then please start your post by writing "SPOILER ALERT" at the top and try to make your text a lighter color so that people do not read it accidentally.

Wanted to post this here since the WU from Friday is closed.

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I don't think Guddu and Neelu could have had a "Close" relationship other than maybe friendship because Guddu knows how to respect women and what society expects. Remember when Runjhun cleaned the carom club during the night and then fainted the next day? Guddu let her fall and I think that was because it would have been considered bad for him to actually touch her... whereas when she fainted after standing in the rain waiting for him outside the daru ka adda he had no problem grabbing her and preventing her from falling. (Man, I have watched this show in detail haven't it? 🤢)

Based on that... I can't imagine Guddu touching anyone... in fact technically Guddu sealed his fate when he touched Runjhun in that room above the carom club...😃 (well technically not a grin since he assaulted her but let's ignore that for now)

I could see Neelu as being someone that Guddu protected... like say Neelu's dad beat her so Guddu stepped in?

Guddu does a lot in anger but I can't see him breaking the relationship with Runjhun... not totally. I don't think divorce is a viable option for our show... marriages are built by following the rituals... you can't just break rituals. Even when Guddu left Runjhun before he simply left - there was never talk of divorce. In fact... Guddu left Runjhun like 3-4 times right? So I'm kind of ok with her leaving him once 😛 (KIDDING!!!) (I just remember the time he made her beg on her knees and he still left...😡) He's saying that they no longer have a relation due to his pride... even though he desperately wants her back. It's sad that he wants her back and mutters this in his sleep but when she came back (twice I think) he made her leave. That kind of says that only Guddu can bring Runjhun back right? He's made it clear to Runjhun that he's not going to forgive her... and I feel like if she forces her way back into the house... he'll just get angrier that she is going against him...even if it is what he really wants. I think once Runjhun leaves he'll just start to see her in different places or maybe have flashbacks.

I had a bad thought...so we know that Runjhun trusts Guddu... and then say Jabbu shows her the pictures... so she STILL says that she trusts him... and then she goes to Guddu and asks him to tell everyone that he has no relation with Neelu. Then I can see Guddu getting angry and saying that he does have a relation with her. Where will that leave Runjhun? If Guddu himself is saying it what will she think. Gah.

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Great post! 😊

@blue - I have always imagined Guddu and Neelu being neighbors or something..growing up together..that way it fits for her to come wake him up in the morning. Remember when RJ wakes him once, during the early days of their marriage, he automatically assumes it to be Neelu in his semi-conscious state. Your scenario does fit in, about her father being abusive, and Guddu protecting her..so she gets attracted to him and cannot imagine any other man in her life. But it was all strictly one-sided.

@bold - I agree with you - your bad thought is not so bad actually. Infact, great ideas for the future track.

Let's face it, if they are anyway thinking along the lines of Runjhun going away for a few weeks, then what you suggested could be a very likely and believable scenario. As long as Guddu just says it (that he does have a relation with Neelu) impulsively to spite her, as usual, and does not actually keep any relations with Neelu, and they have to accomodate Nivedita's absence...

Meanwhile, Runjhun may also find out the true colors of her mama mamis (in case the CV's are considering showing them as still being selfish and calculating), and realise that this whole big step that she took in her life for their sake, going against her husband and jeopardizing her marriage, was all in vain, afterall. There is nothing to look forward to in life anymore. She accepts defeat..wants Guddu to be happy in life..and decides to go away from his life forever.

Once she goes away, I guess he will sober down on his anger and pride (and hopefully the liquor). He will regret his behaviour, and pine for her..do some soul searching. He will realise that nothing is worth having to live without her..not his anger, not his pride, nor his false ego..

Maybe he will turn to Amma for support at that point..cry on her shoulders. He can share his whole story with her and all of us. Maybe Neelu can be a true friend to him then, by supporting him in his search for Runjhun..

Your scenario would make perfect sense, and more importantly, it aligns with their characters well. I hope the CV's read these messages and take some ideas for the upcoming tracks.
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I think both of you are right in that Guddu needs that space away from Runjhun to clear his head and all the anger that is in it...As the saying goes "You don't miss the water until the well has run dry" So he needs to feel the absence of Runjhun to actually want her back. As for Neelu, I really do hope that she acts as a medium through which Gunjhun can re-unite, as I am sure there will be many obstacles, Jabbu for one and if the Mamas Mamis get smart again, they'll need the extra friend.
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Agree with you Indu and Nmaharaj.

Indu I do hope that Guddu says things only and does not actually act on anything. Him doing anything to match his words would be really really bad.

Nmaharaj: I hope so too that Neelu acts as a medium...I can't deal with another woman track...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: rani2007

I don't think Guddu and Neelu could have had a "Close" relationship other than maybe friendship because Guddu knows how to respect women and what society expects. Remember when Runjhun cleaned the carom club during the night and then fainted the next day? Guddu let her fall and I think that was because it would have been considered bad for him to actually touch her... whereas when she fainted after standing in the rain waiting for him outside the daru ka adda he had no problem grabbing her and preventing her from falling. (Man, I have watched this show in detail haven't it? 🤢)

Based on that... I can't imagine Guddu touching anyone... in fact technically Guddu sealed his fate when he touched Runjhun in that room above the carom club...😃 (well technically not a grin since he assaulted her but let's ignore that for now)



@Rani - Another excerpt from your post 😃

Reading the above reminds me of something else about Guddu, which is consistent with his characterization that you mentioned about..

During the 1st SR, he says to himself,
"...Kaaryakram aage tak badhana padega..aur ek baar agar yeh suhaag raat man gayi, tho hum tho fas chuke..phir tho vidhivat roop se pati aur patni ban jayenge..."
..meaning if he had to go through the whole "process" of the suhaag raat with her technically, then he will be stuck in this relationship forever.
He did not love her or even like her then..and now they have come such a long way in their relationship..

My point is, I hope the CVs consider all these factors before deciding to completely butcher his character due to whatever reasons, be it requirements of the current track, or other circumstances..
Edited by dhruvie05 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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If they butcher Guddu's character any further by actually making him have a relationship with Neelu, I for one will stop watching this show.
Guddu's character is made of steel and he is incapable of either breaking his relationship with Runjhun or starting a relationship with anyone else. This is how the CVs have portrayed him thus far, any changes will spell doom for the show and already the rankings are down. Hope the CVs will sudhar jayage and bring the story back on track.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hiii
i completed my dinner just now




am waiting to post my emotions from 2 days
this is for you(BBATians)

Jabbu v/s Neelu

Guddu with Neelu
Finally ILove You all(BBATians)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh Pressu, you are just too awesome!🤗🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
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😲episode: not bad
New Montage is nice😛
Guddu😡 ate apple slice 😡
Runjhun😭
mama mamis 👏
Guddu slapped Kukkan😡
precap : 😕😲
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Posted: 13 years ago
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holding my head in my hands and trying to figure out what are they doing to Guddu's character😭 ...BTW awesome job today Himmanshoo and Niv and Kukkan
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guddu seriously needs an 'ek kaan ke neeche'(he has seriously worse than how he was before marriage)
I hope during the 2 months Rj is gone,he straightens out(as it was evident today,he DOES care for her)
And realizes what a mistake he made.
Also I want Runjhun to come back with a modern-girl
I-dont-give-a-🤬 attitude
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't like that CVs are making Guddu to seem as he has split personalities.. One minute he is loving, the next hating. I know he can forget what happened but I mean come on now...I am really getting tired of the hot and cold behaviour. BTW, Himmanshoo, Nivedita and Jayesh, brilliant performances today!👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhruvie05



@Rani - Another excerpt from your post 😃

Reading the above reminds me of something else about Guddu, which is consistent with his characterization that you mentioned about..

During the 1st SR, he says to himself,
"...Kaaryakram aage tak badhana padega..aur ek baar agar yeh suhaag raat man gayi, tho hum tho fas chuke..phir tho vidhivat roop se pati aur patni ban jayenge..."
..meaning if he had to go through the whole "process" of the suhaag raat with her technically, then he will be stuck in this relationship forever.
He did not love her or even like her then..and now they have come such a long way in their relationship..

My point is, I hope the CVs consider all these factors before deciding to completely butcher his character due to whatever reasons, be it requirements of the current track, or other circumstances..


@Blue: I dont think that they will butcher his character as from the beginning of the serial they have shown him strong, determined and sober even if he is drunk he has never done anything wrong with RJ although he didnt even love her rather i would say hate to see her around him and now they have come a long way in their relation where they both have strong feelings for each other and they both now that as well. If the CV's have to assassinate his character they would have not shown us Guddu telling Neelu continuously about his marriage or him being married and committed to his wife. So iam being very positive and trusting CV's very much in regard that they will not butcher his character.

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