Over 2 kids, get jail-New proposal

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Over 2 kids, get jail' draft Bill raises storm
Strict measures for enforcing a population regulation policy, including penalisation of parents begetting more than two children and encouraging free-of-cost legal abortion are the highlights of the draft Kerala Women's Code Bill 2011 proposed in the report of the State-appointed Commission on Rights and Welfare of Women and Children.

Various Muslim and women's rights organisations and the Catholic Church have already warned the Kerala Government of intense agitations if it tries to implement the recommendations of the 12-member panel, headed by Justice (retired) VR Krishna Iyer. Sensing the seriousness of the issue, the Government has agreed to discuss the report in detail with all concerned sections.

In the 94-page report submitted to Chief Minister Oommen Chandy the other day, the panel has suggested adoption of family planning and birth control as parts of a secular policy of population regulation. "Each unit of husband and wife shall limit its children to two for entitlement to the advantages the State grants… and for avoidance of the legal disqualifications," it says.

The Commission says that any act or omission, movement, campaign or project, which induces or tends to induce the violation of the family norm of two children as prescribed under the chapter Kerala Women's Code Bill 2011, or in any other manner abets the violation of the provisions, shall be regarded as a 'legally disqualified person.'

It also says that that nothing lesser than a fine of Rs 10,000 or three months' simple imprisonment deserves to be slapped on the expectant father of a third child. This recommendation is part of the measures the Commission wants to encourage for population regulation for women's well-being and children's development.

The draft maintains that violation of family norms will be deemed a legal disqualification and parents will not be eligible to receive any benefits from the Government. It insists that religious and political outfits should not be allowed to discourage population planning and any such effort on their part should be censured by the Governor.

The report states, "No person or institution shall use religion, region, sect, caste, cult or other ulterior inducements for the bearing of more children." It has also proposed the constitution of a ten-member

Commission with social activists, public personalities and heads of institutions as its members to monitor the implementation of the population regulation policy.

It also suggests to provide an incentive of Rs 5,000 to women who marry after the age of 19 and have first child after 20. This benefit could be made available for the first two children. Couples below poverty line, who marry after the age of 20 and have their first child after the mother attains the age of 21, could be given Rs 5,000.

The Syro-Malabar Church warned the Government of dire consequences if it tried to implement the recommendations of the Commission, saying they were against the values of life. Various Muslim outfits protested against the recommendations saying they were against the spirit of Indian democracy and Constitution and the tenets of the Islamic Shariah.

Major Archbishop George Alanchery of the Church's Ernakulam-Angamaly Archdiocese said that they would not wait for the Government to transform the recommendations into legislation to launch agitations in this regard. He said that begetting children was the mission of parents and that the Government should not be given the right to determine the number of children.

The recommendations are sure to hit the Catholic Church badly especially as it has launched a programme to encourage — even by giving cash incentives — believer couples to beget as many children as possible in the context of the plummeting rate of growth of population of Christians in comparison with that of Muslims in the State.

Office-bearers of Muslim scholars' outfit South Kerala Jam'iyyat'ul Ulema said that the Government would face stiff protests if it tried to implement the Commission's recommendations. Industries Minister PK Kunhalikutty of the Muslim League assured that wide-ranging discussions would be held on the matter.

"The Government is studying the recommendations and it needs more time for that," said Chief Minister Chandy in Kochi on Sunday. "Our wish is to implement the recommendations but only after detailed discussions with the various concerned sections," he said.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ah looks like they are following the footsteps to China.
It is not right to slap imprisonment terms for larger families. Best is to educate I guess.
Once literacy rate goes up and people are better off, the families tend to get smaller. One of the reasons is also the cost of living goes up tremendously.
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Interestingly , in contrast to this bill in Kerala, the Maharashtra govt sought to move a bill to relax the two-child norm for couples whose third child is a girl. This was done in a bid to correct the skewed sex ratio in the state. Projections from Census 2011 showed that the child sex ratio for the country had fallen to 914 girls per 1,000 boys from 927 girls per 1,000 boys in 2001. Maharashtra fared worse: It now has only 883 girls per 1,000 boys.

It may be OK to have 3rd child, only if it's a girl

Sharad Vyas, TNN Oct 4, 2011, 04.24AM IST

MUMBAI: Four decades ago, India was introduced to the government plea-Hum Do Hamare Do (We Two, Our Two), Horn Ok Please-through highway trucks. The state government now plans to rethink the campaign, and incentivize the birth of a third child-but only if it is a girl. The idea is to narrow the state's child sex ratio, among the worst in the country at 883 girls for every 1,000 boys. The national average is 914:1,000.

The proposal will soon come to the cabinet. It seeks to reward couples who give birth to a third child, a girl, by taking care of her education and giving other financial rewards on the lines of those being offered under the Rajmata Jijau Malnutrition Free Maharashtra programme. The existing laws will be tweaked to ensure government employees or elected representatives at all levels, including the gram panchayats, are not disqualified for giving birth to a third girl child.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: angie.4u

Interestingly , in contrast to this bill in Kerala, the Maharashtra govt sought to move a bill to relax the two-child norm for couples whose third child is a girl. This was done in a bid to correct the skewed sex ratio in the state. Projections from Census 2011 showed that the child sex ratio for the country had fallen to 914 girls per 1,000 boys from 927 girls per 1,000 boys in 2001. Maharashtra fared worse: It now has only 883 girls per 1,000 boys.

It may be OK to have 3rd child, only if it's a girl

Sharad Vyas, TNN Oct 4, 2011, 04.24AM IST

MUMBAI: Four decades ago, India was introduced to the government plea-Hum Do Hamare Do (We Two, Our Two), Horn Ok Please-through highway trucks. The state government now plans to rethink the campaign, and incentivize the birth of a third child-but only if it is a girl. The idea is to narrow the state's child sex ratio, among the worst in the country at 883 girls for every 1,000 boys. The national average is 914:1,000.

The proposal will soon come to the cabinet. It seeks to reward couples who give birth to a third child, a girl, by taking care of her education and giving other financial rewards on the lines of those being offered under the Rajmata Jijau Malnutrition Free Maharashtra programme. The existing laws will be tweaked to ensure government employees or elected representatives at all levels, including the gram panchayats, are not disqualified for giving birth to a third girl child.

This has to be one of the most idiotic laws if it comes into effect...how is one supposed to ensure that the baby is of a particular sex...what if the govt employees go for a third child hoping it would be a girl and it turns out to be a boy...should they be penalised...either I am not getting it right or something is seriously wrong with those who made this proposal..😆
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Originally posted by: blue-ice

This has to be one of the most idiotic laws if it comes into effect...how is one supposed to ensure that the baby is of a particular sex...what if the govt employees go for a third child hoping it would be a girl and it turns out to be a boy...should they be penalised...either I am not getting it right or something is seriously wrong with those who made this proposal..😆

There are many such idiotic laws already into effect !!! Doesnt come as a surprise any more 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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can you really stop familes from having more than two children, i mean what if they have triplets or more in one go. can you control the amount of kids your gonna have?

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The report states, "No person or institution shall use religion, region, sect, caste, cult or other ulterior inducements for the bearing of more children."

This is indeed a bold statement and one of its kind. In India the birth control, safe sex and HIV-AIDS awareness programs prove to be ineffective mostly due to the interference of the self appointed religious thekedars who crop up with some ridiculous 'blasphemy law' to stall their progress.

However, I feel its wrong to impose the two-child policy by force. That might have exactly the reverse effect. People might actually become more averse to it, as it had happened once during Indira Gandhi, when she attempted forced sterilization of men.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Haha contraception business will boom.
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Originally posted by: Darklord_Rehan

The report states, "No person or institution shall use religion, region, sect, caste, cult or other ulterior inducements for the bearing of more children."

This is indeed a bold statement and one of its kind. In India the birth control, safe sex and HIV-AIDS awareness programs prove to be ineffective mostly due to the interference of the self appointed religious thekedars who crop up with some ridiculous 'blasphemy law' to stall their progress.

However, I feel its wrong to impose the two-child policy by force. That might have exactly the reverse effect. People might actually become more averse to it, as it had happened once during Indira Gandhi, when she attempted forced sterilization of men.

Dont worry. that law can never be passed in india😆

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