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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: wilddevil2010

I just read d entire fic and its fabulous.

There r a lot of questions in my mind but at d moment I'll like to ask only two of them.

1. If Geet's stalker is still alive y didn't he attack Vikram? How can he tolerate Geet being close to somebody assuming that d stalker is a man?

That line of thinking is not done yet. There are two possibilities - Stalker is alive and stalker is dead. Right now the line of thinking is on the lines of stalker is dead. Using that as an assumption the team is building a theory and sees if it fits with the murders of Sasha and Anjali. If there are too many loopholes and too many blanks, then they will reconstruct the theory where stalker is still alive.


2. If d guy who attempted to rape Mal and stalker r d same, then y didn't he attempt to rape Geet? Maan & team thinks that d guy had confused Mal with Geet.

How do we know that the guy really tried to rape Mal? The assault was there but he didn't do anything post assault. He is a stalker and not a rapist and they are not the same.



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I was thinking abt stolen pictures and remembered that u haven't shown Maan going through d USB. It seems odd that Maan didn't see d pics. Maybe there is something in these pics which u don't wanna disclose at d moment. Further these pics r seriously bugging me. I'm unable to understand y d killer stole them. Whoever took d pics didn't know that Geet keeps a softcopy.

It is now 4th day since murder and first they need to get all basic information before going to finer details. I cannot write everything in one go now, can I? 😊 Maan has seen the pictures and Geet has already hinted that what they were and those pictures kinda explains behavior of the killer. And these people are still analyzing the murders and putting an order to the mess. Maan will talk about it soon.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: manashi

I have mentioned this before once:

I strongly felt that Mal swung the other way and had hots for Geet and she murdered the girls who came in Geet's life other than her, out of insecurity.😉

But in some other update, Mal mentioned about being pregnant, so I got confused.😕

But once I re-read the parts, and Maan's concern over the lack of sexual assault in both the murders again got me thinking...if Mal is bi-sexual?
(Assuming Mal to be the Stapleton here...😆)

It has been seen time and again that Mal is being over-protective about Geet and one line in this update really got me hooked:

"And with the kind of stress Geet is dealing right now would have him hovering around her and taking care of her. He believes that without him she cannot function properly and helps her in every little way possible. But we don't see anyone who would fit that profile in Geet's life, do we?"

Dont we really have someone who matches this profile and is taking care of Geet?...Mal...😲

and another point was mentioned that there was a confusion about the stalker being a male or female...😕

Now about the black vases:

The Phuket trip triggered it all...the vase was one Sasha saw and liked in Phuket...so putting the vase after the murders kind of confirms the fact that the killer was in Phuket trailing behind...

Sasha wrote a lot about the trip; she blogged about it. If that is the case then why would killer need to visit Phuket? He can simply keep track of her blog. Also she wrote about that vase for having caught her eye. Isn't that enough?

A few pointers:

# Apparently Sasha was killed for being hot-headed and Anjali for being a two-timer...so the cause of murder are different in both cases...🤔

It's much more simple, actually. It's the morality in both the cases.

# Both the murders were discovered by Geet...is it a co-incidence?😳

Geet was asked to go to Sasha's house by their friend. Geet lived with Anjali. It would have been weird if she wasn't the one who found the ladies, isn't it?


# Anjali was stabbed with a knife from their own apartment...wouldn't the killer bring his/her weapon instead of relying on the fact if he/she found a knife in the victim's home?...or the killer knew where to find the knife?😕

It may look as if the killer is disorganized by not bringing his own weapon to the house, but look at which weapon he picked up - something Geet purchased. The importance is not the killer knows the layout of the house but how far does he know the house's inhabitants.


# A party was supposed to be the day Sasha was murdered...according to deductions the killer could not stab Sasha as he/she did with Anjali cos Geet was supposed to come and pick her up all of a sudden...so can we assume the killer was not a part of the gang who were supposed to party or else he/she would have known previously and acted fast?🤔

Or that the killer doesn't have anything to do with these people after all? 😆

The oddities:

# Then of course there is a man who posed as a cop...in Geet's college...😲

# Anjali was drugged in her living room and finally found on her bed...so she must have been carried...

# The way the eve-teaser was murdered clearly indicates muscle-power...

So is it safe to assume that at least one MAN is directly involved in this?

For the sake of argument and so that I don't have to answer "YES" or "NO" I can prove all of the above wrong 😆
- Some woman hired a man to do this. 😊
- Anjali could also have been dragged. 😆
- Ever heard of hitman
? 😆

I dont know why but I feel Mal is so part of all this and she is kind of obsessed with Geet...😕

Too many questions...tried to sum up...😃

As for Sookie:

I have no words to express my appreciation, I hope and pray that you seriously think about writing who-dun-its professionally...brilliant stuff...👏👏

Thanx for the pm...🤗

P.S.: Sorry for the long post...😊

Thanks so much for the comment. Don't worry about comments being long. I LOVE IT! Professionally huh? This is my first attempt and I now get that its no simple task. But thank you very much for your kind words.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: night13

My simple attempt to connect the puzzle...thanks Hasini for the storyboard, it truly helped!:)

Sooks... I leave it up to you to connect the missing pieces to the puzzle! :)





ps.. If the fonts are not clear... take a look at this link
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8483/thvhuchart.jpg



Awesome!!
Lots of questions to Ask!
U should go in this field!!
Pls do update soon!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hello :)

So I'm done reading this story and boy, are you amazing or are you amazing? 😆

Trust me I have a million questions, ideas, theories [speaking of which - I loved reading 6thElement's comments...haven't read them all only those that were on the same page as the update!] & honestly, I want to sit down and write good, long comment but if I get down to it, it'll be eons before I finish and I have to get back to studying :P

So I'll just say that you're an amazing writer with lots of talent! Really, hats off! :)

I just have one question - Assuming that the stalker is alive, why hasn't he attacked Vikram yet? I mean, Vikram was Geet's boyfriend, so... But, since we don't know whether or not the stalker is alive, I guess my question shall remain open ended :)

And the characterization is amazing! Seriously! From Madan to Maan, everyone has a distinct personality that adds to the case! Amazing work!

Continue soon :)

xoxo
Aanya

P.S - The Murder Board by night13 is amazing! It was most helpful when I was done reading the entire FF! :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
superb. it must b geet n mal. or some split personality disorder of either one of them
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Posted: 14 years ago
Sookie- I am truly mind boggled now- you prove so many possible theories to crack the case that my head has reached its saturation point , trying to think in each direction😆 So you really can play with words & situations - but its fun to speculate,raise doubts etc😛
Coming to point of case - I really like the info Emily extracted coz it gives a lot of hints for further investigation & Doc Vic's findings have enabled the team to reach a conclusion too- coz the question mark on senior's supposed suicide was left hanging a long time...
Deshmukh's discovering regarding the curly haired woman - well time will tell how conclusive the witness's statement'll prove...
Though its a fact now that Geet did visit the shipyard- near the senior's place...
Not to forget-the vase had its own significance as viewed from Sasha's eyes
Hey - please give me a PM too for next update - pretty please😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
This one is for the Stalker...:)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEhy-RXkNo0[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 14 years ago

Chapter 15:

-- 8:30 AM, Wednesday, Police Station –

They hadn't gotten a chance to finish the case briefing and had decided to pick up where they left the next morning. Maan knew that a good night's sleep was necessary when they were mapping all the collected information into right slots to derive a clearer picture of the crime and by doing so the killer's identity would also start to emerge.

"I don't buy this theory, no offense sir," Deshmukh was the first to break the silence surrounding the room.

"None taken," Maan said. "Well, this was one way to look at things. We can next analyze the case with the assumption that the stalker is still alive. And then we can cross validate both the theories." Maan added.

"Actually that may not be even needed. We can pick up our latest victim and then verify the stalker's profile with her case and then maybe even extend it to the previous victim. By doing so we will be able to cross reference the information that we have till date about our latest victim against Geet's past." Emily said.

"I don't understand," Vic said flatly.

"Till now we have been talking with Geet being the center of the case correct? So accordingly we started from Geet's past which gave us truck load of information about Geet and Mal who are the common factors in Anjali and Sasha's murder. In the meantime we also collected enough information with our two latest victims. Now with all the information in hand we restart case analysis from present meaning – Anjali. And at every check point we bring in information from Geet's past and see if it fits in Anjali or Sasha's murder. If there is anything common, it would mean that her past and this present are connected which would mean that the stalker may be still alive." Maan explained.

"What's a check point?" Deshmukh asked again.

"A check point would be an evidence or even an anomaly; it could be behavior or forensic or both," Maan said pacing in front of the table. "For example, forensic evidence and crime scene shows that the killer was led inside the house by Anjali. This would mean that Anjali actually knew the killer. Now take a list of all men and women in Anjali's life and cross reference with people from Geet's life. They are the first set of people of our interest. But it doesn't mean that we cannot eliminate anyone else. Since the motive isn't known, we cannot rule anyone out yet." Maan said.

"Okay sir. Then let's pick up from where you just left. Anjali knew the killer. People who were close enough to her who could visit her late in the evening at her residence are really few," Deshmukh said.

"Are we sure the killer came to visit Anjali? I mean look, he didn't even bring his own knife. He picked up one from kitchen drawer and stabbed her." David asked.

"You mean 'killers' David", Satya who was quiet for a while answered.

"Okay, let's go with the assumption that there are two killers. The first killer came into the house and gave Rohypnol to Anjali. And then he left. Two hours later, the second killer came in, asphyxiated Anjali and stabled her twenty nine times. He stuffed a photo of her in a vase he brought in and left it at the house. Let's not forget that he made a glass of hot chocolate for Geet and placed it in her room along with cookies. Before leaving the house, the killer updated Facebook status, cleaned around a bit, stole some pictures and left." Emily summarized only concentrating on vital information. They would start talking about everything else soon anyway.

"Is it wise to assume that the first killer didn't asphyxiate?" Satya asked. "I mean he could have easily come with another person along with him and hung around the place for five hours," he added.

"It is possible, but no. The first killer is completely organized. He brought his murder weapon with him – Rohypnol while the second killer brought a vase with him. He used the knife from their kitchen. For the second killer the act of killing was elaborate as if it was a ritual he had to perform. He wanted to exert the pain to Anjali and show some tenderness to Geet. The picture he left inside the vase is that of Anjali and Vikram." Satya said.

"I don't get it. Can't there be one killer who has split personality who takes over from the first personality after an hour or so?"

"Sure, it is possible. But in this case let's see how it would fit in. Killer one enters the house. Where is the vase? Maybe it's in a bag right? Assuming that killer two is of dominant personality that takes over and orders killer one to administer Rohypnol. Once Anjali is subdued, she is carried to her room and placed there. Two hours later killer two takes over and does his job. And finally one or both of them cares for Geet." Satya explained.

"Then why aren't we considering it as a probability?" Vic asked surprised.

"Because it is incredibly rare. We rarely profile killer sporting a dissociative personality disorder during the initial analysis. If we are actually dealing with a team and not a person with mental disorder, then the entire case buildup would be off base and investigation would go in completely wrong direction. If we assume the killer is part of a team, then it gets a little easier because if the killer really has split personality then his behavior would show up in one of the killers. It's always safe to assume that the killer doesn't have dissociative personality disorder." Maan said. "Let's begin with forensics," Maan said and sat down.

"There were no…" David was cut off when his beeper went off. At the same time Maan's and Satya's cellphone started ringing.

The three were on phone in next five seconds and within next ten seconds their eyes were wide and jaws slackened.

Mal was dead.

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Posted: 14 years ago
Sooks.. did you know that Reid 'once' told a joke in CM, something that only he understood and laughed on... 😆

The joke was "How many existentialists does it take to screw in a light bulb? Two. One to change the light bulb, and one to observe how it symbolizes an incandescent beacon of subjectivity in a netherworld of cosmic nothingness"!

I feel the same effect on me after reading your update, you killed the prime suspect (Mal)? Really?

PS: Back to the drawing board (murder)!
PSS: I am sure you heard the song.. Murder, She Wrote, Murder, She Wrote!




Edited by night13 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
helll man...3 murders????
Sigh
What the hell is happening? I cant decide whether this affirms the fact that Mal was involved or she is just a victim...
Breathtaking

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