1st July - Ziddi... (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Raman's words... 'One day Dushyant will be back on the right track... and that day is not far away' this one sentence could mean quite a few things, one D is already on the right track in whatever state he is and the person he has become today, but then their is one thing that D hasnt done and that is tell the truth on what he did with Vasant... which will be the most explosive truth to rock the household - meaning the family members, and what will hurt them even more is that Gulaal knew and kept is concealed for some time (thats where the biggest hurt and lashing towards will be aimed at)
Raman is know for playing stirring games, i just wonder what he is gonna do, coz he has habit of giving an idea and then waiting and watching how it develops and i am not gonna even comment on the what they say about Gulaal, they have always been against her from the start
I wonder we are gonna really see a battle between Raman/Dushyant soon, seeing i can see another convo like this coming between them...
Gulaal still stern and reserved, even whilst cutting the veggies lol, what made me laugh was when she totally got why Reva was here and who sent her, and the way she kept looking at Reva with that look saying 'i know' , whilst Reva is trying to say her excuses lol... you see she just doesnt want to listen about Kesar, and she is doing it even more forcefully and being ignoring it
Poor Kesar coming in, sounding low (i like Neil's hair like that for some reason lol) yep she knows he is there and asking, but she also knows that Reva will answer him at one point...
We all can see who Kesar wanted to bring his plate and so on, and he requested for her, but like Reva says does it matter if she brought it to him, but to Kesar it does and he said it does, and Reva just like some ppl have been saying jya zid hai, bachpana yeh hai, and Kesar himself agrees to it, yep its zid, and by zid i want my food by her and she will serve to me and not only that feed me as well, and you saw the looks each femal member gave, what the hell is dude going on about... even i would find it odd someone saying that, no wonder Reva said what she did
Now about Gulaal's reaction throughout it, all the way to the start the way she walks from the kitchen like in a relaxed chilled out manner, something in me tells me, that she expected Kesar to erupt and cause this hungama or something (or i think that she knows by know that this is how he will behave and she totall expects it - thats what her stance told me), and everyone alerted, the way she calmly says, you asked for food here it is, if you want anything let me know.
The most emotion and surprise you saw on Gulaal was when he says he will not even touch water
Woah that grab hold by JK on Gulaal, even Gulaal felt it and didnt like it... the more JK taunts her, and the more she blames Kesar being how he is on Gulaal, when partly Kesar is at fault as well.. coz he like how he is, the more Gulaal gets agitated, and these days JK treats Gulaal has some kind of lowly dog, that they have all done her favour by accepting her in the house, and that whatever relation or place she had in the house is totally dismissed, like her and Vasant didnt even exist, and also she isnt settled in the house yet, everything is so unsettling for her right now... that again you might see a very monitored Gulaal
What i wrote before, was before seeing what Reva goes to tell Kesar, that the way he is shouting at Gulaal and so on, even a animal wouldnt come near him - though this is Reva who is seeing this now, so from her pov what she has seeing now, she didnt like and as she said it isnt right, another person apart of Revji baapji is saying to Kesar, what is happening to you, who is this Kesar, kya bachpanpana hai, how is he coming across and so on - and thats why it looks forcing and pressure from other ppl's eyes... and again Kesar just sees well i didnt do wrong in asking my food from her, why is she being so difficult about it... thats his pov
Dasi (i havent heard that word or heard only one person say that word, Draupadi in Mahabharata) and patni - there is such a big difference, and what a sentence by Gulaal, in this household of ppl against her and taunting, she is still holding her own, and even Kesar isnt making it somewhat easy with the hungama he creates looking from Gulaal's pov... interesting bit is i dont think Gulaal even believe or thinks she deserves happiness, more so to live a life, the words Reva was saying to her about her dreams, her happiness, her likes - Gulaal's totally just doesnt care about her in having or has those things or even wants them...
No-one and i mean no-one is gonna like this bit or they will😉 😆
Seriously Talli is gone Talli, i mean total Talli - i knew when Sudha was badmouthing Talli, Talli looked so insecure and looked towards the kitchen, that what Sudha might be saying could be true, and then the end bit, but that was abit extreme, begging him to marry her and that she will die... either Talli is playing at something or she seriously means it... she's gone Talli-fied BUT...
Or is Talli playing reverse pyschology on Kesar, we just saw Talli forcing him on and on, isnt that what Kesar has somewhat done to Gulaal, and just might able for Kesar to see why Gulaal has been like how she has...
Didnt i say yesterday in my post that... (copying and pasting it)
Everything that has happened, he is still not getting it - the whole picture - he still isnt seeing it from Gulaal's pov, and you know why that is important, coz Gulaal's pov is the actual reality going on, the actual problem and somewhat solution...
Gulaal and Kesar - in their own way are ziddi, Gulaal is ziddi in the sense she wants to hold her own ground, and not let anyone walk all over her and believe it or not she really is abiding by the rules and farz of a patni or what to do seeing as this is the call the panchyant took, and Kesar well is ziddi inw hat we have seen so far lol
When one is calm, the other one erupts... Push and pull, push and pull...
PRECAP - Honestly for some reason i was expecting Kesar to take this step, in breaking the deeyarvatu and shocks all around lol
Another big twist... 😲😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Raman's dialogue was quite interesting. Is there a chance Dushyant could change shades again after the truth is out? I doubt he would reverse back to his villain self but it all depends on how the secret is revealed to the family.

Ok sudden light bulb moment. Raman and JK keep going on about 'our family and their family' which Dushyant hates yet this phrase keeps coming back. Once MotaBa and PaanBa find out, who knows what they might say or do to Dushyant?! It could change a lot of things!

I am intrigued!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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I was wondering lennie dear where is your analysis found it fina;lly.😊...love how you never miss the little changes in Gulaal's character.⭐️.⭐️Well I know everyone says Kesar is not mature,ziddi,childish,...etcI totally agree..but yesterday I was watching the younger kesuda episodes..he has always been this spoilt kid...but why are we almost blind to the fact that this guy never had a normal childhood...He was deprived of answers..with no one to guide him..so most of his ugly behaviour stems from his troubled childhood...n ...not only that..his worst fear..of he might end up losing Gulaal.I am not defending him...but if we feel for gulaal we should feel for kesar too...these are complex ppl..with...follies and goodeness..can't express beautifully like you but ..hope what I say makes sense😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Raman's dialogue was quite interesting. Is there a chance Dushyant could change shades again after the truth is out? I doubt he would reverse back to his villain self but it all depends on how the secret is revealed to the family.


Ok sudden light bulb moment. Raman and JK keep going on about 'our family and their family' which Dushyant hates yet this phrase keeps coming back. Once MotaBa and PaanBa find out, who knows what they might say or do to Dushyant?! It could change a lot of things!

I am intrigued!


You are making me think on the Raman thing, i say the decision of whatever this deeyavatu will be - break on intact, we will definately see how Raman will play in and toward D... and that too i see him goading D
1) If D breaks it, he has Raman telling, you so love Gulaal blah blah
2) Intact - we see Raman saying what he said to him today and yesterday, on those lines and bad-mouthing Gulaal and so on
I wont even be surprised if he goes to Kesar in stirring - the most funny thing will be if Sudha and Raman become Mr and Mrs Evil, they both have the same goals well in the sense of Gulaal and on the same wavelength, after so many years 😆
JK and Raman have always themselves even D and Sudha back then, seen themselves as one family... and they keep repeating that mantra as do JK and Raman
D is one character where you just dont know which way he will go depending on how his truth comes out and what happens... but i do say that the D i have seen will really have to prove himself when it counts...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am probably the one who has said time and again that I find Kesar's behaviour childish and immature. But today's sparing between G & K was really enjoyable!

Kesar stayed true to himself when he demanded that food from Gulaal and now. Even though it was childish I kind of liked Kesar not letting it go and demand she bring it and then when she didn't putting some conditions in place.

I loved her reaction to it "I maybe forced to be his wife but not a personal servant"!!! L O V E D I T! But he didn't like that.

Both just reacting to each other seemed so typical of their characters it was fascinating to watch.

Today it felt like I was a voyeur looking in on a very personal fight between a couple!

No comments on Tallie and sindoor situation - I almost had a heart attack! my heart has just calmed down so not ready to talk about it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I was wondering lennie dear where is your analysis found it fina;lly.😊...love how you never miss the little changes in Gulaal's character.⭐️.⭐️Well I know everyone says Kesar is not mature,ziddi,childish,...etcI totally agree..but yesterday I was watching the younger kesuda episodes..he has always been this spoilt kid...but why are we almost blind to the fact that this guy never had a normal childhood...He was deprived of answers..with no one to guide him..so most of his ugly behaviour stems from his troubled childhood...n ...not only that..his worst fear..of he might end up losing Gulaal.I am not defending him...but if we feel for gulaal we should feel for kesar too...these are complex ppl..with...follies and goodeness..can't express beautifully like you but ..hope what I say makes sense😳

Thanks so much, means alot😊
You are making sense 😊
The thing is the last week and this week, the amount of times we have seen Kesar do what he has and the amount of times ppl has told him, force and pressure dont work, dont do that, and also his behaviour, and methods he used, all backfired in a way... was what i see a setting of Kesar getting growth in himself - because we all been saying that and he has got it in him, could what we see next monday be that and follwing it through
Kesar since child has been spoilt, posessesive, but a kind hearted child as well, the thing is Kesar is still Kesar, even with the non-normal childhood, he still retained the Kesar-ness, and he fully knows what his childhood has been like and so on - i dont think he regrets anything of it as such esp what he shared with Gulaal (even though this is hurted him for years and so on), and what he has been deprived of from the last 10 years, one focus, one aim - Gulaal this and Gulaal that
Both these characters you can feel for and see their pov, but Kesar the two weeks the audience have actually would of been able to label if those names you said... coz it was right their across their screens... and then you get why he was doing and so on, and then you also get why Gulaal had to go as well, and why she is what she had come back as, as we saw on Monday
Interesting that you say that he fears losing Gulaal coz that is one thing that he totally fears and is scared of, let alone even think about it, even if you see in the letters and so on - he didnt mention at all, that he has lost her, or losing her, what it feel to lose her, coz those letters were her, over the 10 years, thats why he never really felt that she wouldnt be there but today is a different matter altogether
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post lennie ! we all expected that deeyarvattu will break kesar will free gulaal but didnt know the exact time...now equation between kes-gul will change completely .i dunno y the game scene between talli and gulaal where talli and gulaal started fightining with each other is striking me again and again...i dont know it hold any relevance or not
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovtv

I am probably the one who has said time and again that I find Kesar's behaviour childish and immature. But today's sparing between G & K was really enjoyable! Yeah it was coz one did a zid and then the other one did a zid 😆, and then the pushing and pulling lol, well if you can behave like that then i can as well lol - i actually saw similirities there but from different meanings lol

Kesar stayed true to himself when he demanded that food from Gulaal and now. Even though it was childish I kind of liked Kesar not letting it go and demand she bring it and then when she didn't putting some conditions in place. I remember the little Kesar who liked to be served and would eat by Gulaal giving it by hand, i do miss Ali Haji 😳

I loved her reaction to it "I maybe forced to be his wife but not a personal servant"!!! L O V E D I T! But he didn't like that. I loved it too... i love when Gulaal totally hits the spot with her one sentence that says it all, and shocks JK 😆 and i loved how she calmly walked in from the kitchen lol

Both just reacting to each other seemed so typical of their characters it was fascinating to watch. Yes, its what really makes them - only these two can be how they are and only with each other

Today it felt like I was a voyeur looking in on a very personal fight between a couple! Push and Pull it was definately

No comments on Tallie and sindoor situation - I almost had a heart attack! my heart has just calmed down so not ready to talk about it. LOL, like i said i thought she'd gone Talli 😆, i remember saying at one point ages ago, thats sometimes Talli talks sensible and the next its like where did that come from lol

But boy - she is seeing everything and now actually did something about it

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

nice post lennie ! we all expected that deeyarvattu will break kesar will free gulaal but didnt know the exact time...now equation between kes-gul will change completely .i dunno y the game scene between talli and gulaal where talli and gulaal started fightining with each other is striking me again and again...i dont know it hold any relevance or not

Deeyarvattu breaking or not - will have definately have changed the equation between them, and their demeanors as well
Alot of ways they can go with this, if is stays or it doesnt
As for Talli - lets see... till now she is the only one seeing Kesar-Gulaal true forms and with each other
Thanks Arti 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I want Gulaal Kesar momenta back!!!
Why can't we have Gulaal Kesar moments back?
Is it wrong for me to want Gulaal Kesar moments back??
Why does no one understand me if I want Gulaal Kesar moments back?
Fine!! If you don't give me my Gulaal Kesar moments back, I won't eat!!
I won't eat till I get my Gulaal Kesar moments back!!
I won't even drink a drop of water till I get my Gulaal Kesar moments back!!!!

Oh wait!!
Did not work for ziddi Kesar...so why will it work for me??
I need a panchayat too!! 😉

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