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*Reemz*

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: trifolia
I will one up on your post REEMZ!!! Has anyone here seen Harold and Maude - the comico-tragic movie? It is an Independent Movie classic...

I actually haven't. Could you tell us more about it if possible?

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: trifolia
I will one up on your post REEMZ!!! Has anyone here seen Harold and Maude - the comico-tragic movie? It is an Independent Movie classic...

I have heard about it and seen some clips/pics - its a young guy with a totally old looking woman

Since we talking about movies - coming of age movies 😉, i did like the movie Summer of '42 - that one scene they shared just before the actual end really stood out for me, we felt the emotions and the music along with it, it didnt need words or had words but it was just comfort and two ppl coming togther

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

LOL I agree! You haven't watched anything if you haven't seen FRIENDS!😉

I don't see the eww factor at all because as you said, if you have seen the Gul-Kes bond then you will appreciate how their relationship has evolved. They were always soulmates even when there was nothing romantic between them.

Gulaal is placed herself in a box, she doesn't even really understand what makes her truly happy. She isn't even aware of her own desires :\ Obviously something special has to happen for her to think outside the box.

Exactly, and what sums it up - is what she said to Kesar at the lakeside, all she is doing and has done on the path Vasant had set and she is following it through, each and every decision has been made with Vasant in mind and for the family etc

She really thinks she can live like this her whole life

What is niggling me it that she hasnt totally dwelled on Kesar knowing how Vasant died, i mean it is a rather big thing, it was his brother firstly and she did say she did tell him why she kept quiet in a way, but his question was most reflected on her and D - so no wonder she didnt want to talk to him and so on, and then him also saying he is putting it in the past (to her it meant he said everything in the past when he tells her the decision of getting married) . And i dont think she knows that Kesar found out 10 years ago and lived with it ever since and so on

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Aeryn

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Maybe he saw at different stages!? Once in a while at a house party or something. Not that it was dwelled upon.

I totally understand her reluctance too. Wouldn't we all react in a similar fashion? For a woman like Gulaal it's even worse because she has really suppressed her desires for the sake of fulfilling Vasant's dreams. I'm glad Kesar voiced our opinions in the kitchen scene! She is playing around with 3 different lives who will all end up being miserable because of that one promise she made to Talli.

@bold - You and I both. I so agree with this. That promise to Talli was so wrong in so many levels...oh god...she's effectively getting three lives ruined by it

While I don't think Talli deserves to be played like a pawn in KG's 'game' (so to speak), as twisted as it can be, I've come to think of it as maybe the last chance for both Talli and Gulaal to come back to their senses. Those two women are really delusional 😡

You know, often in desi serials I complain that characters don't voice their opinion clearly but here Kesar was truthful since the beginning! He never once encouraged Talli, always treated her as only a friend and openly corrected her when she's misinterpreted his gestures as a desmonstration of his love (for example the chunar thing: he clearly told that it wasn't for her). Plus he bluntly said to gulaal many times that she had no right to take such big decision about his life without consulting him first, told her that he doesn't love Talli thus doesn't want to marry her but alas both women were/still are deeply rooted in their fantasy world!! So as I see it something drastic needed to happen. Some have said that he should have talked to his father but perso I'm not sure that would have worked anyway...Gulaal has such a hold on mota ba that it is not impossible that she could have convinced him of how good an alliance Talli is for Kesar...at least this way with Kesar telling what he is planning to do Gulaal will finally realise that she can't forced people to act as she wants them to, they are not mere puppets...

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rakni

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Reemz, very good post and some very good observations - I must say.

I admit, I am one of those people that this post is addressed to and yes I have seen ALL the Friends episodes (every Thursday at 7 PM in USA). I know what you are talking about exactly but there is a slight problem. My original issues with GK discomfort was not due to the age gap or due to the fact that G watched K as a child but rather because this whole "romantic angle" was one sided.

You made a great point that K might have been a minor before and G guarded him and what not for whatever brief period of time but now he returned as a "grown man". I agree that he is now 20+ and therefore a grown man (though his behavior says otherwise ;)), but to Gulaal, he is still the little Kesuriya.

We have seen many instances where the age difference is not even an issue - age has nothing to do with love. Look at Demi and Ashton, or your Richard and Monica, but the difference is it was a mutual love and reciprocated the feeling, but in this case, G is treating K like an immature "kid" while K is hopelessly, passionately, in love with G. On top of it, his seemingly "irrational" (note that I said seemingly irrational because judging from his POV, he is constantly fighting the inner turmoil, therefore justified in his anger) behavior is not helping G fall in love with him at all! However much she softened up towards our bechara K while he took care of her during her post-drowning trauma, he ruined it all with the fight in the temple and then there is this constant favoritism of Gulaal towards Dushy! Hell, this relationship is not even being given a chance, where G can at least learn to fall in love with K.

Despite all G's diatribe and monologues about how she does not regard the Deeyarvatu with one iota of importance, if one expects her to fall in love with K overnight, then it will indeed be odd. That's my major reason to object to this angle. Gulaal is a grown woman, with mature needs. For K to take the position of her "husband", a lot of things have to be done and K has not convincingly done any of those except for showing his anger in violent outbursts, which scared Gulaal even more.

And Reemz, another point is, East is East and West is West. Many things in the West are culturally accepted that the East is reluctant to accept. The plot is set in a village, in some remote part of the country, where they rely on a "Nirja" to find water, where tradition, culture, heritage play major roles in one's life. We cannot expect such radical "relationships" without the right plot and segue. That's all I want to say.

Let's see how the creatives set the path for this reunion. If they do a good job of it, it will be a show like none other but if they just do a band-aid job of "hum pati patni hai aur sab kuchh jhut hai," like the Silsila ending, then it will be just another lousy serial. Just my two cents :)

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