Gulaal 29th April - Kesar doesn't care about her? - Page 3

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Preeti-

Its not that kesar has no feelings for Gulal. He deffo has but yes there are a few other things too which stops him from being The Kesar - Gulal's Kesar. He feels she hid the truth and is supporting Dushyant, who apparently is Vasants murder but then there are some more secrets to it which he isnt aware of. He wants to question them to her but then he also expects her to share them with him. Its this Confusion which kills him internally.

He saved Gulal bcoz she did matter to him. He did those tiny miny things which did make her happy. He did feel guilty for taking talli instead of Gulal to her Parents place. He does feel her pain but then when he thinks about her being normal and nyc with Dushyant, he looses his cool and fails to understand her.

I dont think the CV's right now the CV"s wud focus on this love triangle between Talli-Kesar-Gulal.And may be this would eventally make kesar realise his mistake.

I agree with everything else but not the highlighted part.
Can you clearly explain me what is Kesar's mistake?
As for Im concerned, Gulaal did the mistake by hiding the truth of Vasant's murder from his family and they have every right to know about it(whatever her reasons may be). To be honest, what Kesar is doing today is just because of Gulaal's mistake of hiding the truth.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nidhsara

Loved all your view points...am not a regular viewer of Gulaal but I do like it...can someone please tell me the secret that Gulaal is keeping from the family?...am not aware of thefact...apart from that...i like the show for its cast especially Mansi...she is a talented actress...Krisha your viewpoint is completely agreeable...even for me betrayal by hiding trutn is greater crime...i do not agree to the concept of keeping a truth to protect a person from emotional breakdown...best way to protect is give them the truth...initially they will break down...but finally if God helps they will moveon...when a person hides the truth from us...its never easy to trust that person again

Well said Nidhsara. Even I feel the same about hiding the truth.
Doing crime itself is a big mistake and hiding it is a bigger crime than that, whatever her good intentions were.
Dushyant is the murderer of Vasant( Vasant is brother of Kesar and was husband of Gulaal) and this is the secret that Gulaal is hiding fromm the family.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lucky_dreams

Well said Nidhsara. Even I feel the same about hiding the truth.
Doing crime itself is a big mistake and hiding it is a bigger crime than that, whatever her good intentions were.
Dushyant is the murderer of Vasant( Vasant is brother of Kesar and was husband of Gulaal) and this is the secret that Gulaal is hiding fromm the family.


Ok a fair point taken. But if we look at Gulaal's point of view, then you see all she ever did was love Vasaant and loved and respected him that much that she was willing to forgive the one who ruin her happiness just for Vasant's dream. We have to also look at the situation she was in in the household she was living in, i mean Motaba had hardly recovered yet how could she tell everyone that Dushyant was the murderer and shock everyone like that risking Motaba's health and the destruction of the family which Vasant never wanted to happen no matter what. Also how could she have told Kesar he was just a kid back then he didn't understand .. he just took into account what he heard and didn't try to get into depth of the truth.

Whatever Gulaal did was right at the time all she could see was Vasant's dream and Motaba's health if she would have told everyone everything would have been at risk wellbeing of Motaba, the destruction of the family.

Kesar does have a right to be upset but he should be mature enough and since he's been with Gulaal since childhood he should be able to sense the pain and sorrow she has been through all these years she's only been through pain and never been happy. He should realise that what he's doing by hurting her will HURT him even more when he realises the reason why Gulaal kept the truth was for his Vasant ba's dream and that day he'll regret everything what he's done in these past 10 years it will hurt him bad and he won't know how to face Gulaal. He will realise everything Gulaal has done for him. For Gulaal Kesar was her life, he was the only one she truly ever loved after Vasant. Kesar was the one who always bought happiness on Gulaal's face he's the one that she lived for. Now Kesar being so spiteful and not trying to find out the real truth is giving Gulaal so much pain not knowing the reason to as why the one she loves hates her so much yet she still loves him and always will as she said in the 29th April episode. Kesar will regret his actions.
I'm just waiting for that day .. but hey this is just my view on the story point 😊

thanks everyone for sharing

- reema x
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i agree wth you guys, he really is falling in love wth her, bt he doesnt wnt to admit it, and tht whole thng wth him overhearing the convo between dushyant, gulaal and durgesh! ooh, why doesnt someone just kill durgesh!!! sorry, bt he annoys me!! anyway, loved todays epi, it was really nice to see gulaal happy and the whole gulaal and kesar scenes were sooo cute!!!
p.s. lennie, i love the photo you have of Prince William and Kate! they are soo cute together! she looked stunning and her dress, oh my god, i want it! Prince William looked a true Prince dont you thnk? really charming, i watched the ceremony, it was very cute, it made me want someone of my own! lol!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: reemg


Ok a fair point taken. But if we look at Gulaal's point of view, then you see all she ever did was love Vasaant and loved and respected him that much that she was willing to forgive the one who ruin her happiness just for Vasant's dream. We have to also look at the situation she was in in the household she was living in, i mean Motaba had hardly recovered yet how could she tell everyone that Dushyant was the murderer and shock everyone like that risking Motaba's health and the destruction of the family which Vasant never wanted to happen no matter what. Also how could she have told Kesar he was just a kid back then he didn't understand .. he just took into account what he heard and didn't try to get into depth of the truth.

Whatever Gulaal did was right at the time all she could see was Vasant's dream and Motaba's health if she would have told everyone everything would have been at risk wellbeing of Motaba, the destruction of the family.

Kesar does have a right to be upset but he should be mature enough and since he's been with Gulaal since childhood he should be able to sense the pain and sorrow she has been through all these years she's only been through pain and never been happy. He should realise that what he's doing by hurting her will HURT him even more when he realises the reason why Gulaal kept the truth was for his Vasant ba's dream and that day he'll regret everything what he's done in these past 10 years it will hurt him bad and he won't know how to face Gulaal. He will realise everything Gulaal has done for him. For Gulaal Kesar was her life, he was the only one she truly ever loved after Vasant. Kesar was the one who always bought happiness on Gulaal's face he's the one that she lived for. Now Kesar being so spiteful and not trying to find out the real truth is giving Gulaal so much pain not knowing the reason to as why the one she loves hates her so much yet she still loves him and always will as she said in the 29th April episode. Kesar will regret his actions.
I'm just waiting for that day .. but hey this is just my view on the story point 😊

thanks everyone for sharing

- reema x

Okk Reema,
Everyone can understand about Gulaal pain EASILY because her pain is visible outside. After Vasant died, whatever she did was to fulfill Vasant's dream. Agreed, she couldnt tell the truth about Vasant's murder when Motabha was ill. But she had 10 whole years, she could have told the truth. Was Vasant not anything to Motabha???? You think that Gulaal is MATURE than Kesar, right? What does Gulaal think, she will hide the truth forever?

NO MY DEAR destruction of the family will happen, if Gulaal stopped it then by sacrificing her life, just look at the way Kesar is self destructing himself already. Every decision that made was bound to hav a hitback indirectly and Gulaal hiding truth tortured Kesar for 10 long years and its still continuing.
Agreed at the end of the day, when everyone knows abt GULAAL'S MAHA SACRIFCE she will be praised and will be put on pedestal again. Also agreed that Kesar was a kid and is much younger to Gulaal. When she can understand everyone's pain, why not Kesar's? For 10 years she did not understand or try to findout why Kesar is ignoring her(I know most of you will say that, she thought he is mad at her because she sent him to boarding school.But we can see the change in Kesar behaviour very much before the decision was taken and Gulaal never gave a thought about sudden change in his behaviour).

Ok lets think, boarding school was the reason for Kesar being annoyed for 10 years, but after Kesar returned she must have understood that something bigger than that is bothering kesar.She should try to find out the reason instead why she is portraying herself as victim. Im sorry to say Gulaal is not the victim here and Kesar is. Gulaal has made choices in her life, it was Kesar who was left without a choice. Everyone here is talking about Gulaal as a woman of a substance, so thoughtful of others feelings. In my opinion, she should atleast sit and think why Kesar is behaving like that(for example,Is he upset because of Deeyarvattu?, or he is upset because he is forced to live with Gulaal). These are some logical questions that she should think as she is portrayed as a matured and woman of substance. Even now, she is making choice of Talli as Kesar's would be bride and took the decision that he should marry her without even trying to consult him which is a big blunder.

I dont understand why CVs are portraying her as a victim. She was a victim when vasant died and when deeyarvattu was forced on her. She has received so much love and concern from Motabha,Paanbha and her family. But she never ever chose to share her pain with anyone. Its not that they ill treated her, she has received love as that of a daughter from her in laws. she is like this because she CHOSE herself that life. NOT ONCE Motabha, Paanbha forced her to live as vasant's widow. Even now she has same expectations from Kesar that he should understand her, and that her feelings are hurt. But Im asking wht about Kesar????? No one can see that he is hurt as he is not crying outside nor he is garning pity for himself like Gulaal. He is hurting deeply.Kesar will not question Gulaal now, not without a proof.Yes he will ask one day once he gets the proof as to why she did this and believe me no one better than Kesar will be able to understand her.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lucky_dreams

Okk Reema,
Everyone can understand about Gulaal pain EASILY because her pain is visible outside. After Vasant died, whatever she did was to fulfill Vasant's dream. Agreed, she couldnt tell the truth about Vasant's murder when Motabha was ill. But she had 10 whole years, she could have told the truth. Was Vasant not anything to Motabha???? You think that Gulaal is MATURE than Kesar, right? What does Gulaal think, she will hide the truth forever?

NO MY DEAR destruction of the family will happen, if Gulaal stopped it then by sacrificing her life, just look at the way Kesar is self destructing himself already. Every decision that made was bound to hav a hitback indirectly and Gulaal hiding truth tortured Kesar for 10 long years and its still continuing.
Agreed at the end of the day, when everyone knows abt GULAAL'S MAHA SACRIFCE she will be praised and will be put on pedestal again. Also agreed that Kesar was a kid and is much younger to Gulaal. When she can understand everyone's pain, why not Kesar's? For 10 years she did not understand or try to findout why Kesar is ignoring her(I know most of you will say that, she thought he is mad at her because she sent him to boarding school.But we can see the change in Kesar behaviour very much before the decision was taken and Gulaal never gave a thought about sudden change in his behaviour).

Ok lets think, boarding school was the reason for Kesar being annoyed for 10 years, but after Kesar returned she must have understood that something bigger than that is bothering kesar.She should try to find out the reason instead why she is portraying herself as victim. Im sorry to say Gulaal is not the victim here and Kesar is. Gulaal has made choices in her life, it was Kesar who was left without a choice. Everyone here is talking about Gulaal as a woman of a substance, so thoughtful of others feelings. In my opinion, she should atleast sit and think why Kesar is behaving like that(for example,Is he upset because of Deeyarvattu?, or he is upset because he is forced to live with Gulaal). These are some logical questions that she should think as she is portrayed as a matured and woman of substance. Even now, she is making choice of Talli as Kesar's would be bride and took the decision that he should marry her without even trying to consult him which is a big blunder.

I dont understand why CVs are portraying her as a victim. She was a victim when vasant died and when deeyarvattu was forced on her. She has received so much love and concern from Motabha,Paanbha and her family. But she never ever chose to share her pain with anyone. Its not that they ill treated her, she has received love as that of a daughter from her in laws. she is like this because she CHOSE herself that life. NOT ONCE Motabha, Paanbha forced her to live as vasant's widow. Even now she has same expectations from Kesar that he should understand her, and that her feelings are hurt. But Im asking wht about Kesar????? No one can see that he is hurt as he is not crying outside nor he is garning pity for himself like Gulaal. He is hurting deeply.Kesar will not question Gulaal now, not without a proof.Yes he will ask one day once he gets the proof as to why she did this and believe me no one better than Kesar will be able to understand her.

LD, exactly what I was thinking. No doubt Gulaal is in her Mahasacrificial mode. But such sainthood and martyrdom annoys me. She has loving parents, parents-in-law. She could have confided in one person. At least that Daiiba. She seems to be a woman with her head firm on her shoulders.
No child will harbor ill feelings for 10 long years for being sent to boarding school. Gulaaal must think why Kesar is like this. Kesar left without speaking a word to her. When he left he was according to them the spoilt brat so stubborn. She should wonder why these many years has still not brought a change in him and why he continues to remain angry.
There was also scene where Dushyant asks her what would happen if Kesar ever knew what he had done to his brother, how he will react. She looked stunned there. I think any woman, so mature and supposedly taking right decisions should think on those lines. Especially when he said again yesterday...Meri vajah hai...Then why not ask what it is. Again she goes about emotionally blackmailing him...If you believe in your vajah more than me...and so on...why does she expect Kesar will blindly believe her than anything else. she sees his indifference, she knows he is not the same old Kesar and she says to him ...jis Kesar ko tu ne khud peeche chhod aaya...She is grown up, mature,intelligent...By now she should have understood that there seems to be a larger picture to the anger and resentment in Kesar.
Why expect Kesar to understand Gulaal. He is definitely years youger to her. Kesar is hurting her and hurting within. Her mahasacrifice for the sake of family has destroyed the child in Kesar, has taken away his innocence. He has grown up with this resentment.Gulaal is no doubt lonely. But she had her family who at least treated her well. This child was alone, lonely, all to himself, with no emotional guidance to come to terms with the devastating truth that he has learnt . I am surprised he is still sane when it comes to behaving with rest of the family members. Iam not saying what Kesar is doing is right. But his reaction is valid. Keeping a secret is in no way a justification however good her intentions might have been. As far as I know, other than Jamna Kaaki, all treat Gulaal with love and respect. She is lonely because of the life she has chosen for herself. That is what the elders asked her to do. To move on in life after Vasant. To find someone who can be of emotional support to her. She wanted to live there to fullfill Vasant's dreams.
Gulaal is a woman who needs to be loved. True and I too want that she finds that love and support in Kesar. But I cannot relate or empathise with her character. Its sad to see her missing Vasant still. But its her decision. She seeks emotional support from Kesar and nothing more as of now. She has the right to step aside as his wife. But she has no right to chose Talli for him. For whatever reasons, when she married Kesar, the decision was hers. At least now, he should be given the right to chose his lifemate. If he prefers Gulaal as his wife, its upto Gulaal to deal with that situation. But she CAN NOT decide his life. So happily she has chosen Talli, fanned her imaginations and also suggested that to Motabha. She is ruining three lives...Kesar, Talli and Herself. She has no right to do that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: MeySimi

LD, exactly what I was thinking. No doubt Gulaal is in her Mahasacrificial mode. But such sainthood and martyrdom annoys me. She has loving parents, parents-in-law. She could have confided in one person. At least that Daiiba. She seems to be a woman with her head firm on her shoulders.

No child will harbor ill feelings for 10 long years for being sent to boarding school. Gulaaal must think why Kesar is like this. Kesar left without speaking a word to her. When he left he was according to them the spoilt brat so stubborn. She should wonder why these many years has still not brought a change in him and why he continues to remain angry.
There was also scene where Dushyant asks her what would happen if Kesar ever knew what he had done to his brother, how he will react. She looked stunned there. I think any woman, so mature and supposedly taking right decisions should think on those lines. Especially when he said again yesterday...Meri vajah hai...Then why not ask what it is. Again she goes about emotionally blackmailing him...If you believe in your vajah more than me...and so on...why does she expect Kesar will blindly believe her than anything else. she sees his indifference, she knows he is not the same old Kesar and she says to him ...jis Kesar ko tu ne khud peeche chhod aaya...She is grown up, mature,intelligent...By now she should have understood that there seems to be a larger picture to the anger and resentment in Kesar.
Why expect Kesar to understand Gulaal. He is definitely years youger to her. Kesar is hurting her and hurting within. Her mahasacrifice for the sake of family has destroyed the child in Kesar, has taken away his innocence. He has grown up with this resentment.Gulaal is no doubt lonely. But she had her family who at least treated her well. This child was alone, lonely, all to himself, with no emotional guidance to come to terms with the devastating truth that he has learnt . I am surprised he is still sane when it comes to behaving with rest of the family members. Iam not saying what Kesar is doing is right. But his reaction is valid. Keeping a secret is in no way a justification however good her intentions might have been. As far as I know, other than Jamna Kaaki, all treat Gulaal with love and respect. She is lonely because of the life she has chosen for herself. That is what the elders asked her to do. To move on in life after Vasant. To find someone who can be of emotional support to her. She wanted to live there to fullfill Vasant's dreams.
Gulaal is a woman who needs to be loved. True and I too want that she finds that love and support in Kesar. But I cannot relate or empathise with her character. Its sad to see her missing Vasant still. But its her decision. She seeks emotional support from Kesar and nothing more as of now. She has the right to step aside as his wife. But she has no right to chose Talli for him. For whatever reasons, when she married Kesar, the decision was hers. At least now, he should be given the right to chose his lifemate. If he prefers Gulaal as his wife, its upto Gulaal to deal with that situation. But she CAN NOT decide his life. So happily she has chosen Talli, fanned her imaginations and also suggested that to Motabha. She is ruining three lives...Kesar, Talli and Herself. She has no right to do that



Ok wow i never thought of it like that lol.. sorry guys 😛
yeah she does need to look outside of the box and look for Kesar's reason.
When we look at it this way .. do you think Kesar will understand her reason of keeping the truth even though it was for a reason for Vasant? And do you guys think Kesar will forgive her .. or just act the way he's acting with her now?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dear Reemg,
Thanks for understanding. Of course Kesar will understand her. In spite of not confirming if she is really innocent in terms of being party to his brother's murder, he is sensitive to her.
There is no need to wonder about forgiveness from either side. Its just that they have to talk it over and open up to each other and move on.

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