Carisma's FOOD FOR THOUGHT on MAHA EPI

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Purple shirts...

After seeing today's Epi, I thought Food for Thought tho banta hai.
As far as I can see neither can Krishna or Pratigya can be blamed. Guys get your popcorn .. as this one will be longgg.
Now all the men (Krish, Adharsh, Shaktia... Shyam not considered man..lol) today were wearing puple shirts... but it was just unlucky for Krishna and Adharsh.
Now these two main characters of today's epi have been arrested on the same day, and co-incidently the two were married on the same day aswell. I wonder if they will become dad's on the same day too.
Now the answer can be seen quite easily...
The two tracks were running at the same time. It shows on one end that Adharsh was taking rishwat out of greed. He wasn't doing it for promotion or to help that man.. he did it purely out of love for the money. He then celebrated this with a glass of sharaab, proudly. (Loved Adharsh's Greedy expressions).
On the other hand we have Baba... who beat Raadhe up because Raadhe was ruining his business and the hard work of Kriya. How else would one deal with a character like Raadhe? He is a pest that will not go away. So Baba did what Raadhe didn't expect.. coz as far as he was concerned he felt he was the new Dabaang! It's clear from the parallel track that Adharsh was being greedy, whilst Krishna was out and about working hard to promote his business.
Now Pratigya is right.. That in businesses you will make enemies. The truth is that really does happen and you cannot deal with all of them by beating them up or by sending goons. Krishna had taken the step too quickly by beating Raadhe up. Pratigya's idea was working well. As much as we want Raadhe beaten up.. Idealistically this is not the way to do business. You have to rise above the negatives. But Krishna did not know another way then from what he has seen his father and brother doing.
Now ... Krishna has hid the truth from Pratigya about beating Raadhe up, breaking her trust again in a way. He also on the swing said that next time he will kill Raadhe. So what has Krishna learnt after Pratigya taking the bullet incident? He is still resolving or will possibly resolve to third degree violence.
Though I do feel for Krishna.. and I can see why he did what he did, he is a hot male who cannot bear the insults from the likes of Raadhe. Who is working hard at making his business grow.
If another customer or business rival had stooped that low instead of Raadhe, I'm sure Krishna would not have beaten him up. But as this was Raadhe I think the situation changes.
That was a round -up of analysing who did what and why.
Moving on to my view.
Shyaam - Not supporting Adharsh. Right! Because Shyaam has taught his kids right and wrong and it was up to his children to take the right path. So I cannot blame him for that. After years of his hard work his children want to tarnish his name then.. so be it, that is their call.
Shyaam and Pratigya are verly alike they have a list of right and wrong that they try and work with. BUT WHY DID BOTH MAKE FLEXIBLE ADJUSTMENTS WHEN IT CAME TO ARUSHI? WHY DID THIS KID GET BETTER TREATMENT FROM BOTH? WHY WAS SHE GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE, WHEN WHAT SHE DID WAS SOOO WRONG? SHE LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED IN TARNISHING THE SAXENA NAME?. But then, you also hid the fact from the law that the night Angaad died .. Adharsh was involved too..., You were prepared to save him then... but not now?
Pratigya - Not supporting Adharsh, Right lawfully. Adharsh is elder to her and should know his duties better. But again she gave preferential treatment to her sister - who did socially wrong, possibly lawfully too.
As a sister I do expect her to have feeling, worry and sentiments for her brother - which she does have. (Coz she rang Shyaam, and went to see Krishna at the Adda).
Komal - Supporting Adharsh, Well she doesn't know much about wrong, and you cannot expect her to either. But he is there supporting her husband.. and I agree with her. When Adharsh did wrong - she enjoyed the benefits from it aswell. It will be good to see a strong character like Komal fighting too.
Pratigya - Not Supporting Krishna. (Grey Area)
Now to keep him out of jail she took the bullet. She did it once, Krishna didn't tell her about the beating incident either.
Again she believes what ever the law says that's right. There are times in life when the law does not give the help a person needs. Some times as a person you have to understand that law is there as a guide to follow.. but as a person you have to sometimes find your own way. It is upto the individual to make their own boundaries. This was no murder situation where she cannot do anything for him.
Because when it comes to a situation - there have been times she has slapped (physically assulted) too, Like Angaad, Raadhe etc. So Krishna did the same. Is slapping or physical violence only allowed at a time of Sexual assault? (That's when she's normally slapped people).
Krishna has lifted a weapon on his brother to defend her too, was that not considered illegal?
So there are two ways of thinking... it depends on the person you are, of how and where you rank the crimes.. committed.
Some would Say Pratigya let it go and release your husband from jail.
Some would say that once arrested it is upto the law to punish him.
But would Punishing Krishna be right, considering he was provoked. And in English law.. a case of provokation can turn the table on things.
If Adharsh had not been imprisoned at the same time, would Pratigya have rescued Krishna or not? without having her principles compromised and challenged? I think here she has come under the pressure.. of trying to be fair to both.
Both have commited an activity which comes under criminal activity.
The level is different... One was GBH, almost and the Other was to do with money, which could have implications later on the bank and other bodies, and also have an impact on the jobs of others in the establishment. But on the other hand the same establishment also promotes workers on recommendation, compromising the equal opportunities policy (whether that is the same in allahabaad).
So the moral of the FFT is... It is all circumstantual... and Neither Pratigya or Krishna are in the wrong. It all depends on each person and their perspective. I have just tried to capture all angles of the characters actions and their feelings.
I may be law abiding myself, But I would forgive Krishna for the attack on Raadhe because Raadhe was asking for trouble repeatedly. But idealistically of it is a problem with normal business rivals or customers then this would not be the way to deal with it.
I would also forgive Adharsh, But I may not trust him, and the respect for such a citizen will be lost in my eyes.
What I would like to see... is the wives supporting their husbands.. Just like Naina was supporting Shyaam Sax when he was in jail over the murder charge! 😃 There's my answer! Coz in the world we live in, many are accustomed to stick by their loved ones, especially in marriage .. for better or for worse. 😉
Now can ss be behind Adharsh's arrest? Or have the CV's given him a holiday, so that the story line becomes Pratigya ban jayee?
... after the release of the characters - it will be interesting to see where the story heads...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Waa Carishma nice food for thought. as usual nice one. i liked how u supported both prats and krishna. see iam also telling see they both r right in their own way. see if prats helped krishna then komal will question her. adarsh is her brother she refused tohelp him. so she is justified. i knew when prats will not bail krishna the bash will start against prats. see i don;t know what teh cv's r planning to go with the future story.
Purple shirts...Liked the title didn;t notice that.
Now Pratigya is right.. That in businesses you will make enemies. The truth is that really does happen and you cannot deal with all of them by beating them up or by sending goons. Krishna had taken the step too quickly by beating Raadhe up. Pratigya's idea was working well. As much as we want Raadhe beaten up.. Idealistically this is not the way to do business. You have to rise above the negatives. But Krishna did not know another way then from what he has seen his father and brother doing. ya prats was right in seeing that. for instance today she told practically how to make the business run what to do. she was helping him and he didn;t tell her at night where he was and she didn;t have a clue and i read in some post someone was saying prats didn;t have any emotion whne baba was arrested. she is shocked. she don;t know anything. she has to know that he beat radhe at night. so it is different.
Now ... Krishna has hid the truth from Pratigya about beating Raadhe up, breaking her trust again in a way. He also on the swing said that next time he will kill Raadhe. So what has Krishna learnt after Pratigya taking the bullet incident? He is still resolving or will possibly resolve to third degree violence. see krishna is still changing for him the thing he know is to beat them up. that day also he was ready to do and prats was teh one who stopped. fr him today was the limit. he will change but this is his instinct.
Though I do feel for Krishna.. and I can see why he did what he did, he is a hot male who cannot bear the insults from the likes of Raadhe. Who is working hard at making his business grow.
If another customer or business rival had stooped that low instead of Raadhe, I'm sure Krishna would not have beaten him up. But as this was Raadhe I think the situation changes. you are absolutely correct. radhe is the reason. if it was someone else it would have been different.
That was a round -up of analysing who did what and why.
Moving on to my view.
Shyaam - Not supporting Adharsh. Right! Because Shyaam has taught his kids right and wrong and it was up to his children to take the right path. So I cannot blame him for that. After years of his hard work his children want to tarnish his name then.. so be it, that is their call.
Shyaam and Pratigya are verly alike they have a list of right and wrong that they try and work with. BUT WHY DID BOTH MAKE FLEXIBLE ADJUSTMENTS WHEN IT CAME TO ARUSHI? WHY DID THIS KID GET BETTER TREATMENT FROM BOTH? WHY WAS SHE GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE, WHEN WHAT SHE DID WAS SOOO WRONG? SHE LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED IN TARNISHING THE SAXENA NAME?. But then, you also hid the fact from the law that the night Angaad died .. Adharsh was involved too..., You were prepared to save him then... but not now?
Pratigya - Not supporting Adharsh, Right lawfully. Adharsh is elder to her and should know his duties better. But again she gave preferential treatment to her sister - who did socially wrong, possibly lawfully too.
As a sister I do expect her to have feeling, worry and sentiments for her brother - which she does have. (Coz she rang Shyaam, and went to see Krishna at the Adda).
Komal - Supporting Adharsh, Well she doesn't know much about wrong, and you cannot expect her to either. But he is there supporting her husband.. and I agree with her. When Adharsh did wrong - she enjoyed the benefits from it aswell. It will be good to see a strong character like Komal fighting too.
Pratigya - Not Supporting Krishna. (Grey Area)
Now to keep him out of jail she took the bullet. She did it once, Krishna didn't tell her about the beating incident either.
Again she believes what ever the law says that's right. There are times in life when the law does not give the help a person needs. Some times as a person you have to understand that law is there as a guide to follow.. but as a person you have to sometimes find your own way. It is upto the individual to make their own boundaries. This was no murder situation where she cannot do anything for him.
Because when it comes to a situation - there have been times she has slapped (physically assulted) too, Like Angaad, Raadhe etc. So Krishna did the same. Is slapping or physical violence only allowed at a time of Sexual assault? (That's when she's normally slapped people).
Krishna has lifted a weapon on his brother to defend her too, was that not considered illegal? see these are things we keep thinking. i too want a practical pratigya. she should plan and play a game like Ss with ehr brain she will be successful whenever she tell s straightforward nobody likes it and they all (we too) say that she is giving bashan. see until now whtever she feels she just spills out and opposes she doesn;t do like SS or amma behind the back. see that is her principle. so naturally she has enemies. like we all say in order to do something good i want her plan and then into action.
So the moral of the FFT is... It is all circumstantual... and Neither Pratigya or Krishna are in the wrong. It all depends on each person and their perspective. I have just tried to capture all angles of the characters actions and their feelings. I completely agree.
Now can ss be behind Adharsh's arrest? Or have the CV's given him a holiday, so that the story line becomes Pratigya ban jayee?Carishma this is what i was thinking? somebody is supporting this radhe otherwise how come he has the courage to come infront of baba after so much beatings. what is going on and the truth of who set the fire at dabha didn;t come up and SS told T andC to find who set teh fire. so when will that come. is it the job for prats/?
... after the release of the characters - it will be interesting to see where the story heads...ya something is brooming up. have to see how krishna will react when prats don;t bail him out and this amma drama

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Cari..I am glad to see a post which takes into account both the sides and gives a fair opinion rather than only supporting one point. Now that you have mentioned, I do think that Pratigya was pressurized in this situation...to be fair to both of them...As we know Krishna has beat up people before as well...but Pratigya has never resorted to giving him to law...I do agree that ideally krishna was wrong but again these are all grey areas...Pratigya needs to consider under what circumstances Krishna beat him up before declaring that K should be punished...I do have to point out that Adarsh started taking bribes when situations in the house were bad but then he started enjoying this...

This radhe is a big thickhead 🤪...what does he expect that K is going to be in jail for ever??...When SS comes to know of this...his entire family will be wiped out of the surface of this planet...

It would indeed be interesting to be see what happens after they come out...Will adarsh realize his mistake and apologize or will he be angry that his parents didn't help him at all??

What repurcussions will this have on kriya relationship?...Will Krishna be able to understand P's point of view??...

How do you rate today's episode??
And a question I want to ask..Now we all know that with P being shot, she won't complain and allow K to get arrested as she knows it was accident. But did P got shot in crossfire accidently or did she purposely came in the way to save krishna? ...There is a difference...what do you think??
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Posted: 14 years ago
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are we going to see some kriya romance soon...will love to see when he get out of jail, ignoring her, amma singing her favourite bad wife song in his ears, while she is trying to get his attention. 😍
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hello Cari,
Excellent post! Good to read your posts again. I also posted after a long time and completely agree with you. I do not visit the forum that often anymore. Just cannot deal with all this evil and criminal activity.

I will pm you soon.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@carisma: shyamu n pratigya made great efforts to stop arushi from marrying shakti...but she did not listen...shamu knew this was wrong n hence considered arushi dead...in the thakur house pratigya always tried to make arushi understand...but when she refused to listen to her even pratigya became strong n refused to recognize her as shakti's wife...she refused to touch her feet in the function...


It was only after arushi realised her mistake that shamu forgave her n accepted her as a part of the family...

im sorry to say but adarsh n arushi cant be compared...what adarsh is doing is wrong n he very well knows it...he has not realised his mistake and wont even realise it so soon...so how can u expect shamu n pratigya to help him...had adarsh called shamu n said sorry for everything n promised that he wont ever do such a thing in future then shamu would have surely gone to the police station to help him...but adarsh calling SS shows that he still has not realised his mistake...

so shamu and pratigya's attitude towards the problems with arushi n pratigya are absolutely right

im sure id adarsh goes n says sorry to shamu, he will surely forgive him...but adarsh has to say sorry first
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey cari,wonerfulll post...hatts off to u for putting both the veiw points of K and P...⭐️⭐️ from d begning of d show both KP r ryt at their respectable places and i in THIS matter with Krishna,though P was ryt in advicing K that u'll face ppl lyk R in buiness and u can't fight with everyone,BUT if Person lyk R is hell bent to create unnecssary problems 4 K then he has to b taught lesson,NOW arguments have been made that K shud have compleint to plice about R but what exactly he shud have compleint for,has krishan any proff about R mixing crocroach in d food of dhabha...? NO
NOW ,i also read members favoring hamu and P in arrushi's case that both shamu and Pratigya tried to stop arrushi from comminiong crime, DID THY REARY think about breaking of law by ARRUSHI...? Pratigya was tolrting all kind of nonsence of arrushi in TN,was washing her clothes,torating her utter nonsenc on her and her husband krishan and last but most important P DIDN'T THINK ABOUT D HUMILIATINON WHICH ksr has to go through by such a smaal ''MISTAKE'' by arrushi...? I'M not saying that she shud have commpleint against arrushi in d mandap but she shud have taken some step against arrushi's crime in TN,when she wa tolrating her nonsence...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Beautiful Post carishma👍🏼
Agree with you .😆
It is all circumstantual... and Neither Pratigya or Krishna are in the wrong. It all depends on each person and their perspective.😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pragati.T

Hey cari,wonerfulll post...hatts off to u for putting both the veiw points of K and P...⭐️⭐️ from d begning of d show both KP r ryt at their respectable places and i in THIS matter with Krishna,though P was ryt in advicing K that u'll face ppl lyk R in buiness and u can't fight with everyone,BUT if Person lyk R is hell bent to create unnecssary problems 4 K then he has to b taught lesson,NOW arguments have been made that K shud have compleint to plice about R but what exactly he shud have compleint for,has krishan any proff about R mixing crocroach in d food of dhabha...? NO

NOW ,i also read members favoring hamu and P in arrushi's case that both shamu and Pratigya tried to stop arrushi from comminiong crime, DID THY REARY think about breaking of law by ARRUSHI...? Pratigya was tolrting all kind of nonsence of arrushi in TN,was washing her clothes,torating her utter nonsenc on her and her husband krishan and last but most important P DIDN'T THINK ABOUT D HUMILIATINON WHICH ksr has to go through by such a smaal ''MISTAKE'' by arrushi...? I'M not saying that she shud have commpleint against arrushi in d mandap but she shud have taken some step against arrushi's crime in TN,when she wa tolrating her nonsence...


who is hamu??????????

it should be "realy" and not "reary"...lots of spelling mistakes
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post,carisma . Kudos 2 u 4 bringing in both angles of the track 👏. 1 thing i must say is that both krishna and adarsh arrest cannot be compared. Adarsh took bribes 2 satisfy his greed and he must get punished by law.

Krishna on the other hand was provoked so much by radhee 2 beat him. So i am off the opinion that there is no need 4 prats 2 be in a dilemma. I agree that taking law in 1's hand is an offence but here he was forced by raadhe 2 take such an action and raadhe truly deserved it.

What remains 2 be seen is the outcome of this incident. Will adarsh repent 4 his mistakes or whether he will drift from his parents 4 not getting him out of jail?

Will there be a drift btw kriya or will K understand her stand and get back 2 be in love with her as usual?

These r my thoughts 😃 and thanku carisma 4 a wonderful fft.

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