12th April - Tears & Fire (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Starts of from Kesar pulling away his hand and looking away, and guess who walks in - yep you all know Talli 😆 i think we were all waiting for when she would arrive and be happy on seeing Kesar awake and nothing else around her seems to matter 😆
Its kinda odd (dont know what other word to use) to see Talli doing what Gul should be doing (and in Gul's place in a way), and what she has been doing long back, feeding Kesar and making sure he is ok, and Talli asks how it is and i think we all knew that Kesar would look at Gul and says something to Talli just to get at Gul, but Kes just looks at Gul and Gul thinks she should leave them to it, seeing as Kes doesnt answer.
Dushyant comes to see him and ask who it was..... and Kesar again says a indirect comment, on even he is trying to see the true faces of ppl, even he doesnt recognise his own ppl, and the other person was a stranger
Durgesh has hit the nail on the head when he talks about fire, and making it more rage inside a person, and we already know there is such fire in Kesar that is burning away and if and when Durgesh gets to him, it will be a rage inside him, that will burn, but Durgesh doesnt know that Kesar knows who killed his brother anyhow seeing Durgesh wants him to know the truth
Kes-Gul scene - (Manasi and Neil were so good in this scene)
Finally the scene we were wating for well i know i was the confrontation of why Kesar is like that with Gul and what she thought woudl happen when he came back and only thought he was angry on being sent away, she finally asks him - and so tearfully she does, and Kesar is angry on her and but still gets some tears in his eyes.
The way Kes looks at her, even Gul sees it now and her expressions changes everytime she hopes that he will be just about ok with her but no... he doesnt even make any talk with her at all, its always Gul talking at him, esp when she tells him things like today, and again Kesar indirectly says yep he isnt her Kesar that she knew and many she isnt the Gulaal he knew as well (well we all know what that means, his view on Gulaal changed years back when he found out that she knew.... ) and today which i was expecting for quite sometime, is for Kesar to grab her arm physically and that surprised Gul alot which i knew it would be.
So much emotions Gul has kept in, and let them out when she was with Kesar, and Kesar as well - remembering what Gulaal said just to him about how he is being towards her.
Lovely mother-son moment between Paanbha-Kesar, the sweet loving Kesar is stil there - the man we saw with Paanbha is that Kesar as a whole person (despite his behaviour towards Gul, coz we know why he is like that with her)
Jamna Kaki seems to come at the right time most of the time with her lectures but her lectures are usually the facts and somewhat truth about the present and the future, like she says to Gul indirectly whilst watching Kes catching Talli as she busted his bike lol, that they are once yours then will become someone else's - the smile on Gul's face changes, i dont think Gul has ever thought of it that way, that Kes wont be her as such if Kes-Talli does happen (assuming thats the reaction what she had today says and if you guys read her reaction/expression like that)
Precap - Its a Kes-Gul one, looks like Kesar is looking at a scrapbook of photos of Gulaal lovingly - i presume he has made this, whilst Gul looks from behind a pillar with a little smile, and Kes notices her and looks at her, and Gul is wiping a tear away and her expression changes - probably assuming Kesar will go in anger mode
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*Reemz* thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You know Talli's impending arrival scares me now. Pata nahi kab aayegi aur apne daat chamkegi! It's ironic how someone's smile can make you so angry.

You can just sense there's something wrong when you see Gulaal looking on and Talli attending Kesar. Even Gulaal feels out of place :(

The Gul-Kesar confrontation was expected and needed. Nothing is more hurtful is than when the person you love the most is angry with you but Gulaal has it even worse. She doesn't even know why Kesar is so angry. Gulaal didn't deserve to be manhandled, she deserves so much respect for the way she has lived his life. I guess she's realised it can't be just the boarding school issue so she pleads and weeps to get something out of Kesar but it doesn't work :( Although we do see an emotional Kesar in the rasoi when he remembers Gulaal's words.

The mother-son scene was beautiful too. Nice to see he can be affectionate towards someone!

JAMNA KAKI....I LOVE HER!! So bang on target and Gulaal's reaction makes you wonder whats going on in her mind.

PRECAP Beautiful and subtle.It put a huge smile on my face. Both were secretly showing their emotions. Have to say both looked very nice.


AWESOME post again Lennie!😃
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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like always loved ur post👍🏼
i think today gulal fully EXPRESSED what she felt about the whole situation with kesar. she is confused to why kesar is behaving the way he is. she is now CLEAR that there is something else that's bothering kesar and is not telling her. she knows that he is not the same kesar anymore. it was really sad to see her BREAKOUT in front of kesar. poor girl doesn' t know what she did that made kesar HATE her so much. it is very sad when the person u LOVE, hates u the most😭

kesar should tell her everything so she can clear the misunderstanding about the whole FIASCO! actually i also don't know why gulal forgave dushant who killed her husband😕 but the dudshant today has totally changed and i like him but confused about gulal's decision.😕 kesar hating on gulal is making him die inside and same can be said about gulal too. he is HURTING himself and gulal at the same time. 😭he is becoming more VIOLENT and AGGRESSIVE towards gulal after what he did to her today. i thought he was gonna feel bad after hurting gulal but he didn't even look back at gullal to see if she is okay. i hope he soon changes.

the precap looks really interesting. 👍🏼 i think the scene is going to be very cute with kesar looking at gulal's pics and gulal hiding outside to see what kesar is doing.😍
Edited by CuteCherry - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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she forgave dusyant becuase vasant wanted the family united!
dusyant goign to jail wud have made the family a laughing stock ki bhai ne bhai ko maar diya inke ghar me ek ladki ke chakkar mei .... paanba and motaba cudnt handle the truth and i personally feel ......... gulaal cudnt resent dusyant beyond a point becuase he was high on drugs didnt have much of sense when he killed vasant and the base of his crime was his intense love for gulaal and not personal enimosity towards vasant.
also forgiving some one can be the biggest punishment sometimes. leaving them to live in their own guilt. thats terribyl hard to live through.
Edited by vasundhara78 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

You know Talli's impending arrival scares me now. Pata nahi kab aayegi aur apne daat chamkegi! It's ironic how someone's smile can make you so angry. Cracked me up😆😆😆😆 Everytime i see Talli, i always think what is her purpose being there, what and how will she be when and assuming if Kes-Gulaal progress into more, not only that if she is in the idea of being married to Kesar, and then i would of thought that she would be tidying his room and being in love with his towel or whatnot 😆


You can just sense there's something wrong when you see Gulaal looking on and Talli attending Kesar. Even Gulaal feels out of place :( Yeah you can sense it but Talli as usual cant sense it somehow or is being blind to it, just glad Kesar didnt open his mouth then lol

The Gul-Kesar confrontation was expected and needed. Nothing is more hurtful is than when the person you love the most is angry with you but Gulaal has it even worse. She has it worse, i feel for her coz one thing her life who is constant and is important has been and is Kesar, she even thinks that he is punishing her so much, all these years she held it inside to just wait for the day he returns and meaning also returning to her, the Kesar she knows, the Kesar who would talk to her about anything and everything, the Kesar who would be upset and somehow in seconds be totally ok with each other etc She doesn't even know why Kesar is so angry. Gulaal didn't deserve to be manhandled, she deserves so much respect for the way she has lived his life. I agree with you - she deserves so much respect and love, and yeah i agree about the manhandling but i was expecting that as i said, cos Kesar is high on intensity right now, so i would of thought at one point he would grab her, and his intensity is even more coz he has to work damn hard to show her each time, that he is distant from her and not being properly to her I guess she's realised it can't be just the boarding school issue so she pleads and weeps to get something out of Kesar but it doesn't work :( Although we do see an emotional Kesar in the rasoi when he remembers Gulaal's words. Yep she needed something from him, anything then just being how he is and telling her to back off and leaving him alone

The mother-son scene was beautiful too. Nice to see he can be affectionate towards someone! Thats the real Kesar there i think, so simple, so loving, and cantouch your heart with his genuineness and love - and we saw it with Paanbha, its something Gulaal needs to see and feel

JAMNA KAKI....I LOVE HER!! So bang on target and Gulaal's reaction makes you wonder whats going on in her mind. I dont think Gul has even considered or dwelled upon the fact what JK said today about him not being hers and so on, and how exactly will she feels and be like, can she really let Kesar go and so on........
For me Gulaal's rightful place is as the wife of the family, her being the wife of the son, Kesar - i cant see anyone in that place

PRECAP Beautiful and subtle.It put a huge smile on my face. Both were secretly showing their emotions. Have to say both looked very nice. Both did look nice, both back to themselves, such innocence i guess esp Kesar, he cares - he cares so much, Gul knows this but a barrier is between them
I was hoping today Gul somehow finds Kesar's letters to her - but we knew who came in lol

AWESOME post again Lennie!😃 Thanks 😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: CuteCherry

like always loved ur post👍🏼

i think today gulal fully EXPRESSED what she felt about the whole situation with kesar. she is confused to why kesar is behaving the way he is. she is now CLEAR that there is something else that's bothering kesar and is not telling her. she knows that he is not the same kesar anymore. it was really sad to see her BREAKOUT in front of kesar. poor girl doesn' t know what she did that made kesar HATE her so much. it is very sad when the person u LOVE, hates u the most😭 Its the most painful thing that is, and the hopes that Gulaal had when he came back then he would return to her literally, and Gulaal somehow always shows her emotions to Kesar, and today was the fullworks and so on

kesar should tell her everything so she can clear the misunderstanding about the whole FIASCO! actually i also don't know why gulal forgave dushant who killed her husband😕 but the dudshant today has totally changed and i like him but confused about gulal's decision.😕 kesar hating on gulal is making him die inside and same can be said about gulal too. he is HURTING himself and gulal at the same time. 😭he is becoming more VIOLENT and AGGRESSIVE towards gulal after what he did to her today. i thought he was gonna feel bad after hurting gulal but he didn't even look back at gullal to see if she is okay. i hope he soon changes.

the precap looks really interesting. 👍🏼 i think the scene is going to be very cute with kesar looking at gulal's pics and gulal hiding outside to see what kesar is doing.😍

Gulaal forgave Dushyant as she promised to keep the family together and so on, its something you cant forget at all what he did coz he is the whole reason Vasant isnt here by her side today, she can forgive but i think no one can forget and its good that Dushyant is in is limit and in line now
Kesar is so much confused if Gulaal knew about D then why has she just let it go, and thats what eats him up so much
I dont think he is becoming violent its just with Gulaal, his rage intenstifies alot, and i hope Kesar sees how much he is hurting her and i hope in the future begins to understand how Gul has lived her life and without Vasant, her one main support was Kesar - who she was attached to, even Kesar was etc
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vasundhara78

she forgave dusyant becuase vasant wanted the family united!

dusyant goign to jail wud have made the family a laughing stock ki bhai ne bhai ko maar diya inke ghar me ek ladki ke chakkar mei .... paanba and motaba cudnt handle the truth and i personally feel ......... gulaal cudnt resent dusyant beyond a point becuase he was high on drugs didnt have much of sense when he killed vasant and the base of his crime was his intense love for gulaal and not personal enimosity towards vasant.
also forgiving some one can be the biggest punishment sometimes. leaving them to live in their own guilt. thats terribyl hard to live through.

I couldnt agree more and this is what path Dushyant is on and will be for the rest of his life, and now there is respect for Gulaal, and line that cant be crossed etc
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Like always, Lennzie. Your take is like poetry in motion and yet delivering the meaning and soul of the story. Sigh! I love you for a zillion reasons.

Can i please not talk about Talli? I am failing miserably at connecting to her and i know the reason. There is no depth to her and i have never liked any character in my books, films, television and maybe even my life who has no depth.

Coming to Kesar and Gulaal, what can i say that you haven't said already. Gulaal is knocking at the walls and doors of an ice tower behind which her Kesar lives. Kesar has cocooned himself in a personal hell and hence, the bitterness, the angst , the agony and the lonely existence. How can Gulaal or anyone give those 10 years back to him which were spent in loneliness and a confused hurt existence ? These years and the words that he heard before he left have seeped down so deep into is heart that it takes him HARD WORK to understand not only others' feelings but his own emotions as well. Kesar maybe a man today but he needs nurturing , confidence , love , trust and most importantly , the truth.

As for Gulaal, i don't have much to say except that one dialogue which she told Kesar today amidst tears..

" Maine 10 saal takk apne aapko baandh ke rakha."

Only Gulaal knows her suffering. No one else. Not even Kesar. Not yet.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pocahontas

Like always, Lennzie. Your take is like poetry in motion and yet delivering the meaning and soul of the story. Sigh! I love you for a zillion reasons. You know i am not good on love and expressing love and so on, but Pocu, you are dear to me and your words and how you put them down on paper etc 😳😊 It means alot when you read and reply back 😃


Can i please not talk about Talli? I am failing miserably at connecting to her and i know the reason. There is no depth to her and i have never liked any character in my books, films, television and maybe even my life who has no depth. Hey, i am totally cool on not discussing about her, and i agree with you when one doesnt have depth what is there to talk about and connect to

Coming to Kesar and Gulaal, what can i say that you haven't said already. Gulaal is knocking at the walls and doors of an ice tower behind which her Kesar lives. Kesar has cocooned himself in a personal hell and hence, the bitterness, the angst , the agony and the lonely existence. How can Gulaal or anyone give those 10 years back to him which were spent in loneliness and a confused hurt existence ? Exactly and its something he said last week or so when he told Dushyant about how he was at boarding school, the loneliness, the hurt, away from his family... all he had was the truth he found out and that betrayal from Gulaal etc These years and the words that he heard before he left have seeped down so deep into is heart that it takes him HARD WORK to understand not only others' feelings but his own emotions as well. Kesar maybe a man today but he needs nurturing , confidence , love , trust and most importantly , the truth. Yes, i do agree - he is man but this person does need alot of nuturing and heal himself to some extent and knowing the truth should be the first step and then understanding it esp Gulaal, on why she did what she did, and also started to see and respect her on what she has done all these years and so on

As for Gulaal, i don't have much to say except that one dialogue which she told Kesar today amidst tears..

" Maine 10 saal takk apne aapko baandh ke rakha." She said it all when she said that

Only Gulaal knows her suffering. No one else. Not even Kesar. Not yet. Gulaal is suffering, with such strength lies a vulnerable and painful heart at some extent and i hope one day and soon that Kesar knows how much she has endured and is doing so and starts to fill her life with love, colours and healing i guess - give her life a life, coz at the moment it feels like she is just existing rather then living a life

Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie

Gulaal forgave Dushyant as she promised to keep the family together and so on, its something you cant forget at all what he did coz he is the whole reason Vasant isnt here by her side today, she can forgive but i think no one can forget and its good that Dushyant is in is limit and in line now

Kesar is so much confused if Gulaal knew about D then why has she just let it go, and thats what eats him up so much
I dont think he is becoming violent its just with Gulaal, his rage intenstifies alot, and i hope Kesar sees how much he is hurting her and i hope in the future begins to understand how Gul has lived her life and without Vasant, her one main support was Kesar - who she was attached to, even Kesar was etc


now it kinda make sense why she forgave him because i was really confuse on that part so thanks for it😃 and ya i also think that she can never forget vasant since he was her first love.

by violent i didn't mean like hitting gulal or something but just meant in a way he was towards her with holding her hand tight and all. his anger is coming out physically in a way since he can't stop his anger. but i know that he will never do something to really hurt gulal, it was all in his hatred towards the whole situation.

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