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peacefulblossom

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Posted: 14 years ago

Well todays episode was a surprise. I wasn't expecting such a dramatic reaction from Kesar. Kind of freaked me out....and thats something. Excellent acting from both Gulaal and Kesar. Tali has a long way to go before catching up to the rest.

The episode started off with Kesar bedroom scene. And him grabbing the letters. This was expected he would not want Gulaal to know that he has been secretly replying back to her. Its kind of interesting that he kept the letter...I am sure these letter are going to come up again sometime later.

Note point did anyone notice that Kesar was very aware of Gulaals touch each time. The first touch in the bedroom when Gulaal was telling him about remembering him had no resentment in it....more of an awareness. The rest....

Also Kesar asking if Gulaal missed him....Gulaal's talking about his family missing him softened him up a little...but he still more interested in Gulaal missing him. Deep down he is still looking for his Gulaal bond and cares about her and wants to know she missed him as much as he missed her (Poor girl she already told him yesterday how much he missed him) So kind of childish of him. Then Gulaal talks about Vesant....And wow what a change... those soft looks turns to resentment.

They do say there is a thin line between love and hate....

Kesars reaction to Gulaal switches dramatically from love to hate....admiration/sweet bond to resentment..

I am wondering what Kesar really resenting. Does he somehow blame Gulaal for Vesant murder...and maybe she was involved? Hates her for forgiving his brothers murderer? Hates her for being close to her husband murder? Hates her for breaking the pure image he had of her? Resents himself for still admiring and looking up to a person that forgave and kept his brothers murder safe? He has a lot of mix emotions.

I was expecting him not to wear the shirt from the precap....but burning it🤢....I am now worried about his mental state....carrying such a burden for 8 years can't be a good thing for a person.

Gulaal in the other hand is expecting and looking for the young Kesar. Still trying to clean up after him...choice his clothes....Doesnt looks like Kesar is liking it and his making it clear to her. Also his cold reaction is making Gulaal aware that he is not the old Kesar and confusing her why he hates her so much. I expect her to dig in and try finding out whats wrong later.

Kesar annoyance and making a statement with a different top was kind of childish. But he made the statement that he has changed loud and clear to Gulaal.

His annoyance with Tali was very apparent too. I think he thinks he's far too mature for childish games with Tali, and has his mind set on other stuff and his brothers death fresh in his mind.

But the change when Tali talks about the shirt....this guy really needs to short out his brothers death issue and fast....its eating away at him.Since he noticed that he went overboard with his behaviour with Tali and said sorry is shows that he has anger management problems.

He needs someone to understand him and deal with his mix emotions and somewhat childish behaviour. And I'm not totally sure Tali is up for it. Kesar scared her....expected after what he did....but notably she easily took it that he was joking and started smiling away again.

It will be interesting to see if she thinks and tries to analysis Kesar behaviour later or not.

She was still smiling away when the pandit bluntly said Gulaal is the wife and it wasn't her right to sit next to Kesar 🤢 ....If I was in her shoes I would be alittle weary atleast. But she was happy enough to sit on the other side. But I guess since the family does not really take the marriage as true she is not worrying about it. And she knows Gulaals feeling about the marriage.

Kesar had his eyes down and didn't make a comment on the wife business....I'm waiting to see what his view on the marriage hopefully soon. he didn't want to make a scene there and then. Doesnt know his own feelings about the marriage. Unless he has a plan which made him come back to the house?

Gulaal touch in the prayer....Kesar didn't like her touching him then. Very clear and even Gulaal felt his distaste hence the removal of hand and the worrying expression. He was kinda of annoyed of Tali's smiling face too. Looked like he wanted to leave but couldn't.

Today was a interesting development. I look forward to more. Looks like I have a back to back catch up of Gulaal I need to do to truly understand the characters.

What a long post dont think anyone will read it. Anyways thats just my views. Anyone interested in adding their own views? Anything I missed?

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Swetha

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Posted: 14 years ago

awesome analysis hun....👏

i agree with all the points dat u hav said in ur post..

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*Reemz*

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Posted: 14 years ago

Awesome post! Kesar's character is extremely complicated as he's carrying a psychological burden since the last 8 years. It's been playing in his mind non-stop and that's made him the man he is today. I think his resentment is much more towards Gulaal than Dushyant. He's got so many questions in his mind....'She knew?? Why didn't she do something about it? If she loved Vasant so much then why didn't she punish the murderer? Does she have a special relationship with Dusyhant?' then that leads to 'Did they both kill her?'. Deep down he knows that Gulaal is pure and he feels really strongly about her, always has and even now he is going round carrying immese hatred and love for the woman who has had the most significant affect on him.

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

I couldnt agree more with Reemz

8 yrs is a long time to carry a burden of knowing something that pains you (your teens are so important phase of life coz they shape your future and how you become as a person/an adult - and this you will truly understand why your not a teen and into your adult age and you look back on those years), and you question that everyday and as times goes by you become so much angerier and so much resentment feels in you, this resentment isnt clear cut, coz its not a totally resentment, coz he is battling along the lines of love and hatred here for Gulaal - so thats makes it all the more intense his anger and how he reacts

(So as we see his most anger flashes on Gul coz of that bond and how much close to her, called her his own despite Dushyant being the one who did the deed)

Knowing Gulaal knew must kill him everyday - why didnt she do anything..... WHY is the question, imagine yourself in Kesar's place knowing that someone who you looked upon, cared, trusted, had the most affection for her and was close to - that bond you have is deep, knew that they know your brother (her husband) was killed and knows the murderer and it was the cousin brother, and let it go - you would be in total pain and so angry, because you would not look for any reasons coz as far as you can see their is no reason to do what she has done from that pov and let it go.........

But we all know why Gul did what she did and how she knew

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thari_thari

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Posted: 14 years ago

I agree with the whole anger management issue thing. The guy has been carrying an intense group of feelings in his heart. He really needs to sort them out. The way he pushed Talli to the wall and spoke to her in a low creepy voice, the way he burned the shirt Gulaal gave him all indicate he has a lot of issues. Very interesting to watch though

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peacefulblossom

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Posted: 14 years ago

Heya guys,

Thanks for liking my post. I watched the show and had lots of thought so just decided to write them down.

I came onto the forum to reply to this and got side tracked now too tired to write much.

Reemz I agree that Kesar has more of a resentment for Gulaal than Dushyant. I always thought that to resent someone so deeply you have to have some expectation and love for that person. And in Kesars case he has a deep bond and love for Gulaal. And when he heard about his brothers murder his feeling got mixed up. And the confusion grew bigger in the 8 years and now deeply engraved inside of him.

I'm expecting a confrontation between Dushyant and Kesar. And I think maybe Dushyant might start it off. Trying to understand why Kesar is acting this way to Gulaal since he has a deep respect for Gulaal now. And maybe somehow clear the air.

Lennie I agree teenage years of ones life is very important. I would say childhood and teens are where your personality develops and determines how you turn out like as an adult.

thari-thari This character is very interesting to watch. There is a wildness in his anger. One word can trigger him and he himself can't stop himself from letting the anger control him. Waiting to see how he will react when the truth comes out.

Resent himself after finding out?

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

Intensity is what Kesar has in him, suppressed anger and pain, which he has kept in, and he wont show it fully to Gulaal or Dushyant, from what i can get from Talli - she seems to get in his way and is childishly and talking freely about it and he lost his temper

Definately - the most anger and resentment is towards Gulaal, coz of how he was close to her and how he saw her, his whole word was her in a way, and Gul this and Gul that is was

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peacefulblossom

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Posted: 14 years ago

Suppressed anger and pain is exactly what Kaser is suffering from. The anger inside of him is like a time bomb ...getting bigger and bigger with time and it is ready to explode anytime soon. Hence he is starting to lose his temper quickly and at the wrong person. He is now face to face with his pain which is making it harder for him to control his inside mix feelings.

Tali's question was innocent and anyone would plainly ask about it....but how he reacted shows that his inner anger is getting to him. And sooner or later it will start showing up more.

Kesar has a hard time talking about his feelings which maybe why he has problems dealing with them. No I dont see him easily telling anyone even Gulaal about his real feelings anytime soon.

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Lennie

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Posted: 14 years ago

He's now back in front of the person and situation were he was thinking about the last 8 yrs, no wonder its hard to keep things in and be back to normal, Kesar has changed - the whole equation has changed, from Gulaal's pov - he might be Kesar, but the Kesar she knows has gone, so the Kesar who is front of her might as well be another person completely - and see thats why it works to Gul-Kes to be more (if thats what the writers want), coz Kesar is not the little kid Kesar thats completely gone, only the bond remains etc

However much he tries to hate Gulaal and be angry, i dont think he will fully achieve it... coz he still somewhat sees the Gulaal he knows and looked upon, its only when he suddenly remembers the flashbacks he changes........ I think someone mentioned there is thin line between love and hate, and i think this is the kinda scenerio here

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prernacda

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Posted: 14 years ago

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I agree with all the points...

the festered anger is like a volcana ready to erupt anytime....he was always temperamental but now, being older, being taken to a whole new degree...

similiar to dushants anger towards vasant and motaba for getting gulaal married to him...and we know how that ended up...

regardless of age or feelings...kesar is treating gulaal like the wife he caught cheating, but has not mentioned to...letting it fester and may take it out of dushyant to get even...needs psychiatric help. but who will acknowledge it...

glad gulaalis becoming aware of the distance and his attitude instead of pretending all is well. she has treated him like a son, bathed him, dressed him...and now surprised that he wont....hello reality check...my teenage son will dress his own way...that is normal...what is the surprise....normal and this relationship is more complex.

Lennie...we may all agree to disagree on some points and that is fine and partof a healthy discussion. I still do not see gulaal accepting kesar as husband, atleast until they clear the air, because he has a serious confused love hate relationship with her. she is too engrossed in vasant...

there is that indian song...humne dekhi hai....

pyar ko pyar rehne do, koi naam na do. why give their love a relationship....she married him for a reason, but should release him now as she had told paanba and let him decide for himself and make her feelings clear....remember that incident when he asked gulaal that you will not cry if i make talli my wife...it wasthe peer pressure that raised all these questions.....she is his wife. ergo they should go to round 2....not necessarily...they should have annuled the wedding by motaba before sending him away.....

personally things are twisted enough in this household. why make it worse....i will have a easier time accepting status quo than kesar forcing himself on gulaal....in anger or frustration...and gulaal will never accept kesar that way, as she is still too much with vasant...was willing to leave house!

maybe raman will try to kill kesar again or dushyant with durgesh encouragement.

personally i cannot accept kesar with gulaal and will stop watching, (ok i am addicted) too weird....maybe talli needs to mature, but still more sensible than kesar. and loves him immensely. and sees him a a husband in all ways...gulaal just used him to protect him from rman and her from marrying dushyant. purely a marriage of convenience and due to circumstances. kesar needs to sort himself out, before anything happens. how come motaba did not participate in janaou ceremony, still upset about insult....?

sorry cannot thinkof a better way to say it.

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