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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hii guys

this is my second post,n gosh this turned out be an essay lol😃 n sry if i bore u guys😳
i'll start off with the first scene of the epi, the conversation b/w Alka and her dad. NNT said that chander can never be at the top n i actually agree with it. Chander can never be the 1st one, he can not lead but so what?? does that make him unimportant, or good for nothing?? NO WAY.Not everyone can get to the top. There's just not enough room up there. And that's really not a bad thing. Unfortunately ppl think that being in a support position means you are submissive, powerless n less important which is not so. In reality, wherever there is leadership there is followership.The two co-exist in every walk of life. Same is the case with Alka and Chander. Alka can never be a leader without Chander. N Chander's job is not an easy one.....his qualities are loyalty, patience, understanding and humility.

But at the same time I also agree with Alka to an extent with what she said in the precap, being a follower does not mean you become a ''yes'' man. There is a difference b/w supporting sum1 and trusting him blindly, the latter is foolishness. And even Chander's dad has warned him against it. during the initial stages of d indu-ramesh case when Chander decided not to help Alka cos of pressure frm NNT, his dad told him that he shud do what he thinks is right. Followers need to have critical thinking skills and to assert their opinions and ideas. one who jus does wtvr the leader says without utilizing his own talent and mind is not a good follower. Touching someone's feet and showing gratitude requires humility and a heart as large as that of Chander but accepting and recognizing that gesture and taking it in the right also takes a high EQ level which NNT does not have. Inspite of being a politician its sad that NNT has not realised the importance of a dedicated and loyal follower like Chander.


We always say that behind every successful man there is a woman but can't the opposite also be true?? well it is for ChAlka....Chander is one of the ppl who help a leader to become successful. In fact our own Indian mythology is the biggest example of this where Krishna bhagwaan himself did not play warrior but Sarrthi.....he said that if u see one way, sarrthi has no role to play in a war, he jus has to follow the instructions of the one sitting on the chariot but if he wants he can completely turn the war the way he wants cos he is the only one so close to the warrior at that time and can really shape the war.he provides the warrior with the insight and knowledge needed at the time of decision making That's what Chander's role exactly is. he has to advice her when she's in dilemma, calm her in panic, boost her up when she is low and most importantly love her always.Being a follower means you need to be actively engaged in the success of the leader. Otherwise, the leader could soon fall from grace.

Cheers!
Shilpa
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Posted: 14 years ago
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very well said,
Alka will provide Chander which he is lacking , a correct attitude!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: FORAM123

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very well said,
Alka will provide Chander which he is lacking , a correct attitude!!!

Thanks a lot dear n yesss Alka also has to give a lot to Chander.....it has to be give and take or else it simply won't work....i hope she is able to make him realise that nothing is more imp than one's own self-respect.....Chander cannot let ne1 even Alka play with that!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shilpa.Agarwal

Hii guys

this is my second post,n gosh this turned out be an essay lol😃 n sry if i bore u guys😳
i'll start off with the first scene of the epi, the conversation b/w Alka and her dad. NNT said that chander can never be at the top n i actually agree with it. Chander can never be the 1st one, he can not lead but so what?? does that make him unimportant, or good for nothing?? NO WAY.Not everyone can get to the top. There's just not enough room up there. And that's really not a bad thing. Unfortunately ppl think that being in a support position means you are submissive, powerless n less important which is not so. In reality, wherever there is leadership there is followership.The two co-exist in every walk of life. Same is the case with Alka and Chander. Alka can never be a leader without Chander. N Chander's job is not an easy one.....his qualities are loyalty, patience, understanding and humility.

But at the same time I also agree with Alka to an extent with what she said in the precap, being a follower does not mean you become a ''yes'' man. There is a difference b/w supporting sum1 and trusting him blindly, the latter is foolishness. And even Chander's dad has warned him against it. during the initial stages of d indu-ramesh case when Chander decided not to help Alka cos of pressure frm NNT, his dad told him that he shud do what he thinks is right. Followers need to have critical thinking skills and to assert their opinions and ideas. one who jus does wtvr the leader says without utilizing his own talent and mind is not a good follower. Touching someone's feet and showing gratitude requires humility and a heart as large as that of Chander but accepting and recognizing that gesture and taking it in the right also takes a high EQ level which NNT does not have. Inspite of being a politician its sad that NNT has not realised the importance of a dedicated and loyal follower like Chander.


We always say that behind every successful man there is a woman but can't the opposite also be true?? well it is for ChAlka....Chander is one of the ppl who help a leader to become successful. In fact our own Indian mythology is the biggest example of this where Krishna bhagwaan himself did not play warrior but Sarrthi.....he said that if u see one way, sarrthi has no role to play in a war, he jus has to follow the instructions of the one sitting on the chariot but if he wants he can completely turn the war the way he wants cos he is the only one so close to the warrior at that time and can really shape the war.he provides the warrior with the insight and knowledge needed at the time of decision making That's what Chander's role exactly is. he has to advice her when she's in dilemma, calm her in panic, boost her up when she is low and most importantly love her always.Being a follower means you need to be actively engaged in the success of the leader. Otherwise, the leader could soon fall from grace.

Cheers!
Shilpa


I too completely agree👏 Chander is the one who is showing her the right path to reach her actual destiny. He is being the complete support system for her👍🏼 And NNT was mean and manipulative as always😡 Such a shrewd and selfish politician he is..!!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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awesome analysis...dear.👏.... i completely agree with every xplaination dat u hav given abt chander......... 😳 n i'm glad dat u made this post regerdin ysterdays epi.... coz i had askd u 4 xplaination of yesterdays epi in ur previous post.......😆...
but i want to ask... dnt u think dat NT said those lines as the wants the future leader of his party to b his waaris... ie a Tiwari...... not a shukla..... he must hav said it to make alka aware dat she shold nt b gettin close to chander....? if u remembr... in last sat wala epi... were jai suggested dat alka should stand for election... he flatly refused..... n said that the leader will b his waaris ie abhishek... (a son...) he seemed to me at dat time a biased person who doesnt want women to come in politics......
He suddenly pooped dat question in front of family dat alka should stand in election......😕😲
i'm shocked n appaled to ksee NT playin all sor of political mind games with his childeren........
do u think a father in him is dead....? he seems to forevr plottin againgt chander durin indu-ramesh case n now against nandini's dad n takin such political decisions dat only a r benifit to him n his family....... wat does he want... evry one to b a puppet in his hands.....?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Excellent post dear 😊and very well observed😛, Hats off and 👏u have stolen the words i wanted to say😉. Yes thats right, its not necessary that each and everyone should have leadership qualities😊....and just because a person is not a leader he doesnt become an inferior person😊. Chander is a very simple person 😳but he is strong😳, dedicated 😳and has a strong mind as well👏. After all Alka backed off from the case but Chander kept fighting even though he was all alone😕. He knew that the consequences can be bad but he 😳 didnt stop fighting👏. It needs power to stand alone and fight wen u knw that u can die in the process👏, NNT that Bl@#%y sadist 🤢😡went away from the city and hid 😡evrytime Alka and Chander were facing some problem🤢. even Abhishek pointed this to his dad👍🏼. But like u i also agree 👍🏼with Alka that just because u r follower or u respect someone does not mean that u blindly trust him😕 and say yes to everything that person says. NNT is deliberatly doing all this so that he can separate Alka and Chander😡.
I want to kill him , Bl@#$y 🤬
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Originally posted by: sv003

awesome analysis...dear.👏.... i completely agree with every xplaination dat u hav given abt chander......... 😳 n i'm glad dat u made this post regerdin ysterdays epi.... coz i had askd u 4 xplaination of yesterdays epi in ur previous post.......😆...

but i want to ask... dnt u think dat NT said those lines as the wants the future leader of his party to b his waaris... ie a Tiwari...... not a shukla..... he must hav said it to make alka aware dat she shold nt b gettin close to chander....? if u remembr... in last sat wala epi... were jai suggested dat alka should stand for election... he flatly refused..... n said that the leader will b his waaris ie abhishek... (a son...) he seemed to me at dat time a biased person who doesnt want women to come in politics......
He suddenly pooped dat question in front of family dat alka should stand in election......😕😲
i'm shocked n appaled to ksee NT playin all sor of political mind games with his childeren........
do u think a father in him is dead....? he seems to forevr plottin againgt chander durin indu-ramesh case n now against nandini's dad n takin such political decisions dat only a r benifit to him n his family....... wat does he want... evry one to b a puppet in his hands.....?

You know i was thinking the same, how can he do this to his own children to whom he claim to love most. The worst is that he even manipulating things to his wife.He definately don't have "Zameer" He really sucks😡😡😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sv003

awesome analysis...dear.👏.... i completely agree with every xplaination dat u hav given abt chander......... 😳 n i'm glad dat u made this post regerdin ysterdays epi.... coz i had askd u 4 xplaination of yesterdays epi in ur previous post.......😆...

but i want to ask... dnt u think dat NT said those lines as the wants the future leader of his party to b his waaris... ie a Tiwari...... not a shukla..... he must hav said it to make alka aware dat she shold nt b gettin close to chander....? if u remembr... in last sat wala epi... were jai suggested dat alka should stand for election... he flatly refused..... n said that the leader will b his waaris ie abhishek... (a son...) he seemed to me at dat time a biased person who doesnt want women to come in politics......
He suddenly pooped dat question in front of family dat alka should stand in election......😕😲
i'm shocked n appaled to ksee NT playin all sor of political mind games with his childeren........
do u think a father in him is dead....? he seems to forevr plottin againgt chander durin indu-ramesh case n now against nandini's dad n takin such political decisions dat only a r benifit to him n his family....... wat does he want... evry one to b a puppet in his hands.....?

yess this post was to that comment of urs😆 thnx soo much.....actually abt NNT i dun think he is too successful a politician, n they haven't even shown anything like that.....he is powerful for sure but not what i would call a genius or mastermind...firstly he himself has retired so there is no direct incentive......he himself does not know what he wants.....he is precisely suffering from two problems 1) Addiction to power-a very common problem with those have been in positions of authority-they r soo used to order that they jus cannot accept, he want things to happen and people to behave the way he has planned....he is so consumed in this hunger for power that he does not realise that nothing's really cumin out of it for him.....but i can't blame him as its very rare for ppl to overcome this aditction requires sum1 of the caliber of India's 11th president APJ Abdul Kalaam, who after his successful tenure as president of the largest democracy of the world, left it all and went back to his previous job of a professor and is now leading a normal life.
2)His bigg ego- it is this ego which has made him adamant and stubborn......only what he believes is right for him and he can go to any extent to make ppl do that to satisfy his ego

well he is at such a stager in life where i dun think much can be done 2 change him.....he i feel will remain like this...all we can hope is that he does not end up causing too much damage to his loved ones
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shilpa.Agarwal

yess this post was to that comment of urs😆 thnx soo much.....actually abt NNT i dun think he is too successful a politician, n they haven't even shown anything like that.....he is powerful for sure but not what i would call a genius or mastermind...firstly he himself has retired so there is no direct incentive......he himself does not know what he wants.....he is precisely suffering from two problems 1) Addiction to power-a very common problem with those have been in positions of authority-they r soo used to order that they jus cannot accept, he want things to happen and people to behave the way he has planned....he is so consumed in this hunger for power that he does not realise that nothing's really cumin out of it for him.....but i can't blame him as its very rare for ppl to overcome this aditction requires sum1 of the caliber of India's 11th president APJ Abdul Kalaam, who after his successful tenure as president of the largest democracy of the world, left it all and went back to his previous job of a professor and is now leading a normal life.

2)His bigg ego- it is this ego which has made him adamant and stubborn......only what he believes is right for him and he can go to any extent to make ppl do that to satisfy his ego

well he is at such a stager in life where i dun think much can be done 2 change him.....he i feel will remain like this...all we can hope is that he does not end up causing too much damage to his loved ones

u amaze dear😉... u giv such good xplaination to everything......... EmbarrassedClap
i like to bring froth another point... r the makers tryin to show dat abhi n alka will b xactly like NT.... ? i mean both his children r addament n stubborn.... (alka in her will to marry R only n fightin for I-R bacho.. andhon n gettin den married n den fightin along with C for justice.......) n (abhi in this quest to make his father n mother go to N's place for a marriage propasal....)
dnt u think the children will end up being jst like him.... considerin the fact v ppl say na... "its in genes...this person will b an xact carbon copy of his father n will follow his footsteps..... " irrespective whether the father is doing good jobs in society or bad jobs in society....".

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