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Posted: 14 years ago
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Krishna ...the USP and the soul of this show ..What are the CV's doing to him ??

Krishna has always been an upfront, fearless, thick skinned and sensitive [ quite contradictory ] Guy ..A guy who stated his views without any fear or shame..He was in sync till last week when he yelled that he was a king and he has no intention of being a laborer..and overnight, he changes his stance without adequate motivation and without any reflection and stoops down to subterfuge ...practices artifice , the very artifice that Krishna abhors ..surely there is no need to bare him so raw and what is the reason for baring him so raw..is it bec he genuinely wants to help out his father ..NO !! Sire/Madame ..It is to get his elder brother to get off his seat and begin to help his old father..


what happened to that Krishna who lived by his rules..who said that this are my POV , will act by it and abide it ....would it not have been more in sync had he decided to join his father and help him out despite Pratigya's fear's and objection ...would it not be natural that when Pratigya raises some feeble protest [if she does at all] by calmly asking her to tell him one good job that is both legal and to which he is eligible ...instead of exhorting him to find a legal job ..and if she is unable to come up with the list or even a job ...Politely tell her to face reality and accept the inevitable truth but at the same time assure her that he will not stray in the less beaten path.This is what Krishna would have done or should do..instead of employing smoke screens ..



Pratigya..

Off late Pratigya seems to be quietening down..and GOOD FOR HER !!😊👏 her monotonous sermons was getting nowhere or it landed the characters in even bigger trouble ..My sincere Request to CV's ....Now that you have decreased Pratigya's sermons..make her a bit more intelligent and grounded ..Pratigya should know when she must meddle and when she should not ..This flaw becomes glaring and obvious when even the uneducated Thakur's realize this simple fact but escapes the attention of an educated , well mannered Pratigya ...



Krishna- Pratigya ..

It was my impression that this bond was quite strong and honest ..A error on my part..which I admit freely ..cos now I realize that this bond is tenuous ..both the partners are scared in rocking the boat and indulge in hiding things from one another ..Pratigya did it when She hid the Angad fiasco [ many members would say she did it at the behest of her father, but looking at it coldly, final call was her's] ..Krishna is doing it now by hiding his employment status ..Pratigya is doing it [again ] by not revealing the reason for the plain paper and envelope ..this despite the fact both this characters faced the resulting trauma when the truth blew up in their face..so why this secrecy ?? Is it bec both of them are scared ...scared of hurting their partners, scared of feeling rejected, scared of the negative reaction ..But aren't this characters supposed to be in love with all their flaws and warts exposed..so why this hesitancy to communicate ur thoughts .. will such an union [ where one is forced to hide things , thoughts and opinions] thrive for long ?? will such a marriage survive ....when the components of marriage are not measured by ground,real rules but are measured by idealistic, lofty thoughts ..How long since the boot begins to pinch and the affected partner begins to retaliate Such marriage can survive only when one Partner completely buries his own persona and willingly adopts and adapts to his/her partner's expectation's [ Krishna is doing it ]..but even then there will come a breaking point ...Will that breaking point come into Krisha-Pratigya's marriage ..I sincerely hope , It does.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good...going Tanth...

K's lie is certainly irksome....he should ahve taken control of the situation..takin up his father's business n preved wat a material he is to his father, wife n brother.

I dont ahve much complaints on P as yet.

K-P relation ..not at all deep ..just love cannot carry the life forward in a healthy way. Understanding as such was lacking already ebtween them (rightly pointed out by Tahkurain....will she ever get to know K)..now they are on to break each toehr's trust with fully knowing wat they are doing.
K is at elast feeling guilty but P?


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Posted: 14 years ago
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well, good post di......👏

regarding krishna , i would say he is not weak...........its just that he loves his father and wife.........he was not going to work all his life but as he said to tunna and chandu he is now in a tight spot.........he is angry at sakthi for not helping SS and the only thing he could come up to help SS was to lie about work as he is not yet ready to work as per his decision..................and he loves his father and so is again doing nautanki , giving false happiness to him as he did with the pregnancy thing.............but as earlier he has no remorse about doing such a thing to his father however much he loves him..........bec he is not ashamed of looking in his eyes when he soo cooly lied about his work status...........but with pratigya , the whole thing changes.....................he loves her more than anything in the world and is afraid of hurting her as he would be hurting himself ............................and so he is afraid and ashamed of looking at her, making eye contact..................that 'haan' when he nodded his head just before he went out of the house summed up everything in his mind..................he can't give false hope or happiness to pratigya as he said to TC later................he is not bothered about what the rest of his family will think or is thinking................he is only worried about what P is thinking of him.............he is not feeling guilty of his lie bec he is lying, bec he is afraid of hurting and lying to pratigya...............earlier he used to assert his opinions, his wishes.................but ever since P came to his life, he is giving more imp to her happiness..............and is trying to maintain peace in the family.............that's why we r seeing the stuttering, unsure, confused and untrue-to-himself krishna...........he is not afraid of breaking P's heart by vehemently refusing to work when she is practically begging him to but is afraid of lying to her, afraid of giving false happiness to her as his main goal is to make her genuinely happy and be happy himself seeing her radiant self..................

Kriya, i think their love is equal and pure.................both r afraid of hurting the other bec they can't see the other one in pain...if u remember P told kesar when K went for that long walk that she can't bear seeing K in pain............also we know K, he will kill the person who will bring tears to her eyes (ofcourse apart from himself) but here he is the one who will do such a thing and he is despising himself for it..........i think that's the reason they r behaving like this.............
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhakarn

well, good post di......👏

regarding krishna , i would say he is not weak...........its just that he loves his father and wife.........he was not going to work all his life but as he said to tunna and chandu he is now in a tight spot.........he is angry at sakthi for not helping SS and the only thing he could come up to help SS was to lie about work as he is not yet ready to work as per his decision..................and he loves his father and so is again doing nautanki , giving false happiness to him as he did with the pregnancy thing.............but as earlier he has no remorse about doing such a thing to his father however much he loves him..........bec he is not ashamed of looking in his eyes when he soo cooly lied about his work status...........but with pratigya , the whole thing changes.....................he loves her more than anything in the world and is afraid of hurting her as he would be hurting himself ............................and so he is afraid and ashamed of looking at her, making eye contact..................that 'haan' when he nodded his head just before he went out of the house summed up everything in his mind..................he can't give false hope or happiness to pratigya as he said to TC later................he is not bothered about what the rest of his family will think or is thinking................he is only worried about what P is thinking of him.............he is not feeling guilty of his lie bec he is lying, bec he is afraid of hurting and lying to pratigya...............earlier he used to assert his opinions, his wishes.................but ever since P came to his life, he is giving more imp to her happiness..............and is trying to maintain peace in the family.............that's why we r seeing the stuttering, unsure, confused and untrue-to-himself krishna...........he is not afraid of breaking P's heart by vehemently refusing to work when she is practically begging him to but is afraid of lying to her, afraid of giving false happiness to her as his main goal is to make her genuinely happy and be happy himself seeing her radiant self..................

Kriya, i think their love is equal and pure.................both r afraid of hurting the other bec they can't see the other one in pain...if u remember P told kesar when K went for that long walk that she can't bear seeing K in pain............also we know K, he will kill the person who will bring tears to her eyes (ofcourse apart from himself) but here he is the one who will do such a thing and he is despising himself for it..........i think that's the reason they r behaving like this.............



Thank You, Dhanya ...


I have not said Krishna is weak, Dhanya ..I am actually asking WHY Krishna is shown as weak when he is not so ??

I have a slightly different view as regards his callous attitude towards his parents ...He knows that they know him inside out and will not be heartbroken when truth spills out, He knows too that there will be spiteful taunts and he can take it whereas Pratigya still does not know all the layers and has chalked certain standards regarding him and Krishna wants to live up to that standard ..He loves her , No question's about that but it is not so overwhelming as to force him to get a job ..What he is afraid of is breaking her trust , her faith and belief in him.. [ we are on same wavelength here].

Kriya ...No their love is not equal ..neither is it pure ..They are not afraid of hurting one another..had it been the case..Pratigya would have stopped doing many things that hurts Krishna and Krishna would have seriously began to work to alleviate Pratigya's hurt..They are not afraid to hurt each other ..but they are afraid one another's expectation's ..Pratigya can't see Krishna is torment ... A torment which was her own making....Krishna's main thing is he does not like duplicity and he is doing just that ..and That is taking a toll ..[must say his conscience is awakening cos we did not encounter such a reaction during pregger's track or perhaps since P was in the loop he did not feel regret] whereas Pratigya faced the consequence of hiding things yet she is doing the same thing again ...This fear of being honest towards one another , being truthful will actually lead to a weakening of a relationship..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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lalala sathya
Krishna was the reaon i started watching the serial
sigh how much i lubbed him i still do
but CVs ha changed his char very badly girrrrr
good i dont watch the serial i dont wanna chnage the image i had of krishna in my heart
PS. sorry couldnt read your post till end😉😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh how I love it when you muse randomly!!!!!!🤗
I will deffo be back shortly to honour you , for your post as usual is spot on and is more thsan worthy of a proper response.....so much to say so little time - but will be back for sure
In the meantime hugs and kisses while you wait!😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: steffroc

lalala sathya

Krishna was the reaon i started watching the serial
sigh how much i lubbed him i still do
but CVs ha changed his char very badly girrrrr
good i dont watch the serial i dont wanna chnage the image i had of krishna in my heart
PS. sorry couldnt read your post till end😉😆



Rabbbbbbbdddddddddddiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii .....🤗🤗


kahan thi Tum ?? Kaise ho ? missed u n urs n rads chats ..


yes, hun ..there is zameen -aasman ke farakh between that K and present day's K ..


That you had the courage to step inside my thread itself is applauseworthy ..yeh Lo Thaaliyan 👏👏👏 and you also responded deserves even bigger thaaliyan 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏..

As usual read the header and the first line ..kyun ..😉😆😆😆





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Originally posted by: tanthya


Thank You, Dhanya ...


I have not said Krishna is weak, Dhanya ..I am actually asking WHY Krishna is shown as weak when he is not so ?? that's exactly i meant ...........that they r deliberately showing his weakness which is also his greatest strength and asset .............

I have a slightly different view as regards his callous attitude towards his parents ...He knows that they know him inside out and will not be heartbroken when truth spills out, well, i don't think so as SS and amma were heart broken and angry beyond limits when the pregnancy thing came out........... He knows too that there will be spiteful taunts and he can take it whereas Pratigya still does not know all the layers and has chalked certain standards regarding him and Krishna wants to live up to that standard krishna wants to please her and make her happy but there too he has a limit so i don't think he wants to live up to her standards.........if that was the case he would have asked her himself to teach the rules of her world as she sees it , he wouldn't have asked questions every time she expected him to do something .He loves her , No question's about that but it is not so overwhelming as to force him to get a job ..What he is afraid of is breaking her trust , her faith and belief in him.. [ we are on same wavelength here]. 😊

Kriya ...No their love is not equal ..neither is it pure ..They are not afraid of hurting one another..had it been the case..Pratigya would have stopped doing many things that hurts Krishna and Krishna would have seriously began to work to alleviate Pratigya's hurt..They are not afraid to hurt each other Oh i did not mean 'hurt' as in just 'hurt' ........i know that they hurt each other very often..........its 'pain------- heart wrenching pain' that i was talking about.........which neither of them r willing to give the other one........but they are afraid one another's expectation's ..Pratigya can't see Krishna is torment ... A torment which was her own making....Krishna's main thing is he does not like duplicity and he is doing just that ..and That is taking a toll ..[must say his conscience is awakening cos we did not encounter such a reaction during pregger's track or perhaps since P was in the loop he did not feel regret] whereas Pratigya faced the consequence of hiding things yet she is doing the same thing again ...This fear of being honest towards one another , being truthful will actually lead to a weakening of a relationship.. well, i don't see it as the fear of being honest to each other...........its more like afraid of the consequences, future, and also unwillingness to induce pain to each other as they themselves will suffer more.......Just my POV😊

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Posted: 14 years ago
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H i !
No words of my own today so I'm going to borrow from Sahir Ludhianvi. This song has been swirling around in my head for the last few days only because my husband always says Hummi sing that one........................
Dukh aur sukh kay rastay banay hain sub kay vastay
Jo gham say haar jao gay to kis tarhan nibhao gay
Khushi milay humain kay gham
Jo ho ga baatlain gay hum
Mujhay tum aazmao to zara nazar milao to
Yeh jism do sahi magar dilon main fasala nahin
Jahan main aisa kon hai kay jiss ka gham mila nahin
Tumharay piyar ki kasam tumhara gham hai mera gham
Na youn bhujay bujhay raho jo dil ki baat hai kaho
Jo mujhsay bhi chuppao gay to phir kissay batao gay
Main koi ghair to nahin dilaon kiss tarhan yaqeen
Kai tumsay main juda nahin mujh say tum juda nahin
I thought it was appropriate for the current track.
You can imagine me singing this in a koyyal like GD voice😆
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Just watched last night'd epi properly......Now - ready to answer!😛

Originally posted by: tanthya




Krishna ...the USP and the soul of this show ..What are the CV's doing to him ??

Havent we all been asking this for ages now.......CVs not listening...

Krishna has always been an upfront, fearless, thick skinned and sensitive [ quite contradictory ] Guy ..A guy who stated his views without any fear or shame..He was in sync till last week when he yelled that he was a king and he has no intention of being a laborer..and overnight, he changes his stance without adequate motivation and without any reflection and stoops down to subterfuge ...practices artifice , the very artifice that Krishna abhors ..surely there is no need to bare him so raw and what is the reason for baring him so raw..is it bec he genuinely wants to help out his father ..NO !! Sire/Madame ..It is to get his elder brother to get off his seat and begin to help his old father..
prezactly - I said the same thing y'day in LUD - it's the reasoning behind all this that so puts me off - had it even been for his Bauji, to samajh mein bhi aata, lekin nahin......kaamchor besaram kahin ka......

what happened to that Krishna who lived by his rules..who said that this are my POV , will act by it and abide it ....would it not have been more in sync had he decided to join his father and help him out despite Pratigya's fear's and objection ...would it not be natural that when Pratigya raises some feeble protest [if she does at all] by calmly asking her to tell him one good job that is both legal and to which he is eligible ...instead of exhorting him to find a legal job ..and if she is unable to come up with the list or even a job ...Politely tell her to face reality and accept the inevitable truth but at the same time assure her that he will not stray in the less beaten path.This is what Krishna would have done or should do..instead of employing smoke screens ..
I totally agree with you Sathya - would have loved for him to simply take control of the situation. Kisna's feeling bad for his Bauji making him reach a stage where he would simply tell Pratigya that sorry - more important than righteous ideals right now is the need for practicality - Bauji cant be alone I have to help, even if that was to shame Sussti ka maara Saktiya back - it would have been more acceptable.
Instead we are shown this Kisna imposter, because the real one who would never abide lies, or truth-hiding....would tell it like it is and consequences would be unimportant....iss tarah jhoot bolna humre Baba ko jara bhi sobha nahin deta....

Pratigya..

Off late Pratigya seems to be quietening down..and GOOD FOR HER !!😊👏
Hallelujah - praise the Lord for this small token of mercy upon us all....😆
her monotonous sermons was getting nowhere or it landed the characters in even bigger trouble ..My sincere Request to CV's ....Now that you have decreased Pratigya's sermons..make her a bit more intelligent and grounded ..Pratigya should know when she must meddle and when she should not ..This flaw becomes glaring and obvious when even the uneducated Thakur's realize this simple fact but escapes the attention of an educated , well mannered Pratigya ...

Being educatered and wellmannered you'd think would give someone the understanding of tact and diplomacy - sadly this isnt the case in real or reel life....but the quietened Pratigya has also a quiet dignity which is actually making her appear stronger......like that...Clap

Krishna- Pratigya ..

It was my impression that this bond was quite strong and honest ..A error on my part..which I admit freely ..cos now I realize that this bond is tenuous ..both the partners are scared in rocking the boat and indulge in hiding things from one another ..Pratigya did it when She hid the Angad fiasco [ many members would say she did it at the behest of her father, but looking at it coldly, final call was her's] ..Krishna is doing it now by hiding his employment status ..Pratigya is doing it [again ] by not revealing the reason for the plain paper and envelope ..this despite the fact both this characters faced the resulting trauma when the truth blew up in their face..so why this secrecy ??
Is it bec both of them are scared ...scared of hurting their partners, scared of feeling rejected, scared of the negative reaction ..

In a nutshell yes - I think it is - both these guys have far to go in really understanding each other - they may have recognised each other's strengths but not how to deal with each other's weaknesses....they havent had enuff time to develop the relationship because the CVs are too busy creating plots around other characters, whcih dont necessarily show the couple becoming stronger, instead allowed for situations where P became the teacher and K the necessary pupil, always P leading and showing the path and K attempting to travel it... P always so far forward, K desperate to catch up........
But aren't this characters supposed to be in love with all their flaws and warts exposed..so why this hesitancy to communicate ur thoughts ..
what flaws? How many have they really experienced? How many tests as a cuple have they really faced until now? Previously it was all about P finding out the truth about K and once they reached a mutual point, its just been diraaama after flippin diraaama!
These two have a long way to go, many lessons to learn...but the love that exists between them for now is still fresh enough to at least try and reach a middle ground...
will such an union [ where one is forced to hide things , thoughts and opinions] thrive for long ?? will such a marriage survive ....when the components of marriage are not measured by ground,real rules but are measured by idealistic, lofty thoughts ..How long since the boot begins to pinch and the affected partner begins to retaliate Such marriage can survive only when one Partner completely buries his own persona and willingly adopts and adapts to his/her partner's expectation's [ Krishna is doing it ]..but even then there will come a breaking point ...Will that breaking point come into Krisha-Pratigya's marriage ..I sincerely hope , It does.

This is the ultimate question, because when allis said and done, being in love is fine, living is thereafter, and if the goals arent common, even the love that bound you is going to thin with time...
It takes effort to maintain any relationship, you should never take it for granted - both K and P need to learn this and I'm sure they will, but not without serious fractures first. Reminders of previous times perhaps, when P came close to losing K, K very nearly through his rejection post Angad nearly lost P would help.
This is a marriage of 2 very different individuals, odds are against it for many reasons - but you only need one reason to keep going - and that is still there - love
The other thing both parties have failed to do enough is meet each other half way - compromise- but then to be fair, the characters themselves have changed so much, especially K - he is hardly recognisable - he has turned into a comedic buffoon most days and displays such ignorance at times its not fair - old K was so much more savvy, smart - more intune and intuitive,,,at leasty P inthat sense hasnt chnaged, but I would definitely like to see her in a more tender way than presently semi - stonelike countenance.....
Excellent Post Sathya - you always make MKAP worth talkin about!!!Clap⭐️👍🏼

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