Gopi and Ahem - UpDate - Page 10

Originally posted by: khansk

Hey Laila!
I think (only think) I got your point. You say Gopi is nice, can cook and clean but not interesting right? Wait till Aham falls in love with her. He will find everything about her interesting.
But how is he going to fall in love with her? That's for the CVs to know and for us to wait and watch. But he will surely love her. Yeah maybe he can't share his business stuff and all with her but what to do? You can't have everything perfect na?
My own relatives (my father's side) are villagers and the ladies there are mostly Gopis. But they too (only some) get married to modern and rich businessman from cities and get loved and are happy. She will learn to adjust.
But really can't wait man for Aham to love Gopi and find out the 'interesting' facts about her ;)

Originally posted by: simran15

@ laila----it seems as if u would like to have the last word........the discussion looks like it's not only about Gopi....

Originally posted by: Laila2009

This is a very patronizing post and I suggest you re-read it. I have been on the internet for over 16 years as well - when we had AOL dial up etc and have used email using Unix (that's before it went web-based). 😛 So what's your point? Suddenly you're an expert in educating me on how to function on a forum? 😆😆😆 Can I see your credentials please?😛

If you come here to do this and that and this is how you need to behave...REALLY, you want me to follow your guide book? Hate to say you might be bit full of yourself here. We are talking about a show but do you see how upset everyone is getting? Whoa!!! You'd think ya'll knew Gopi personally and I was after your bestfriend.

O by the way, I do know the writer of this show and have emailed him. He is a lot more welcoming and I did post this link to him. He was appreciative of it and we had a bit of discussion about it. I wish I could say the same for the poeple here. 😊

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Here you show your ignorance and your reinforcement of the typical view that if someone is traditional they are better and education does not build character. Education be it formal or informal offers the individual that chance to think, develop their brain etc. Of course, if you think to educate yourself is unnecessary, then I suggest you go ahead and drop out of school tomorrow or BURN any certificates you have accquired. If education was not important, then why do we save every penny we have to educate our children or travel thousands of miles to another country?

Ahem sucks as well and so does Gopi - perhaps both losers are MADE for each other.😆😆😆

The point here is Ahem got a wrong deal, Gopi is not all that wonderful just cause she is iliterate and a good housemaid and Kokila is at fault for all of this mess.

The point here is i have my opinion and you have your own. I am not interested in buying yours, neither are you interested in even listening to mine and appreciating a different point of view. 16 years on internet doesn't define maturity...

you were making personal attacks on me for having a different opinion from you... this really shows your immaturity and intolerance and please stop capitalizing words as if to say, "if i make a louder protest i would be heard and everyone will sing my song"... in none of my posts before this did i ever make a personal comment on you. So it would be better if you refrain and stick to the topic only...

i said education is a definite plus but not a life decider. but you came back on a personal attack telling me to drop out of school... welll if thats how you keep going when going gets rough honey, then you are welcome to go alone or with your other like minded friends.... we educate our children to be self-reliant, and so they can make a way in life for themselves without the need for a support system. If there is a need for a support system these days it is definitely not for survival, but its for emotional needs and companionship. According to you, villagers and farmers, who were rarely educated in olden times, have no life and all should be banished from earth...

as you said education, informal or formal develops your personality, so did you see that everyone is happy with how Gopi manages things, that means her informal education of living in a society and working as one without getting complaints is really good... all that she needs is a formal education which will enable her to make a few phone calls or write a letter... degrees enable one to earn their own bread... i hope i have categorised education properly...

I really hope that CV has read all the posts and seen how you have responded to everyone... maybe that was why he was receptive, because you might have demeaned him to no end if he would have had a different opinion.... i am sorry to say this, but you come out as scary... if he was really receptive, why don't you ask him to support you here, rather than being a hidden entity... since it seems we are unable to understand your view point, he might give us a few reasons as to why you are right... but as per me CVs will just agree to whatever any one says, as they are in the eye of media and wouldn't want controversial publicity... i might be wrong

let me tell you, though am of a technical background, i work in Resource management (as in dealing with people)... so according to you since i have studied machines i can't work with people, how childish would that be.... and everyone in my work place appreciates how i am able to work with all those people of different characters and different nationalities and different work ethics... there are around 150-200 people under me right now....

here, on this forum, we discuss, we argue, we fight... but we have never demeaned anyone or made anyone feel they are useless.... I have worked hard to be self-reliant... not because books taught me how to react to people and work with them, they just gave me ample examples and a way of communication and an opportunity to interact with other people who are basically strangers to me... the education makes me independent, so my mom-dad don't have to find me a household where they would expect me not to work

if you would have said, illiterate people have a tough life, i would have happily agreed, but since you are of the opinion they don't have any life... well i really hope you get some like minded friends on this forum...

one more thing, if you make personal attacks on me, i too can shout..... as can all of the others here and it was very hard for me as it is to make this post civil... and since it takes me so much effort to just be civil to you, this would be my last ever post to you, so that i don't spoil my peace of mind and/or enrage you... i might read your response if you have found something else to demean me, but i am definitely not gonna respond again...

PS. Apologies to forum members, since i lost my temper here, but can't sit and let her be, if she goes for personal attacks...

@By the way, I don't like Rashi or Kinjal's behaviors and as a result their character. I also find the fact that Gopi is not much to look at also adds to the issue. Sorry people but she looks like the poor man's Padmini Kolapuri. She was never considered much (a good actress though) in terms of looks in her day...so you can image where the actress rates. Sorry people but if she looked like Katrina Kaif, I assure you as illiterate and dopey she might be, Ahem would be NUTS over her.

Originally posted by: Laila2009

Here is the problem I have with this show and the people who are supporting Gopi on this forum. It is assumed that when women are educated and clever or outspoken, that makes them evil, cunning, mean or ugly as humans. While women who are uneducated, submissive and good at cooking or cleaning, that makes them good at cleaning. Sorry, but I disagree. Ahem is not right for bullying Gopi - NEVER supported this action. What is wrong is that Kokila should not have married him to her and vice versa. She was wrong and unfair to BOTH of them.

She cooks and cleans - that is it. That does not make someone qualified to fall in love with. If that was the case, then every man in India would marry their housemaid!!!!!

The point is Gopi does not sell - she does not have a personality. She offers the housemaid look, in traditional garb and is just "NICE" - a person has to be interesting. This is what no-one here comprehends.

Actually she doesn't have a personality. She is not interesting as a person. Not in the slighest. There is a saying, "humbleness does not compensate for a boring personality." Does she display wit, humor, smartness, etc? These do not have to equate with being cunning and malicious. In India we assume niceness equates with an interesting personality. Not the case here. She appeals to a particular audience in India who like her - I made this point in my initial post - do take a look. It might appeal to a particular group but we are assuming that it what appeals in general. Doesn't matter about her "look" - she cooks and cleans and if those are the characteristics that sell, then every man in India would fall in love with a housemaid. She appeals to the people of this forum. That's it. You cannnot say 99% of viewers since you never did a statistical count.

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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Ahem might come across as a jerk but people, he was forced to marry a woman he didn't like or with whom he had anything in common! Just cause of all of you like Gopi, doesn't mean he has too. I would NEVER marry someone like Gopi. She's a dunce. Ahem is an educated man who has seen the world, he does not an illiterate wife who only cooks and cleans. She has NOTHING to offer him. Look people humbleness does not make a personality. Gopi is a BORE. She is whinner. She is coward and lacks confidence. She cannot take a stand. I have no respect for people who are so blind they cannot see when they are being used or abused.

What is wrong is Ahem should not take his anger out on Gopi. He needs to face the fact that his mother is the one to blame. She is the reason that Anita's life was ruined, Umaang ruined Kinjal's and her own reputation went down the drain. She showed no respect for what her children wanted as partners. Her children are the ones who are going to sleep with these partners, not her. I am sorry but I am appalled and disgusted at watching Kokila force Kinjal to marry Dhaval. Just because she is her mother does not mean she owns her life. Did this woman not get it? The whole reason her daughter did what she did was to avoid marrying someone whom she did not like. The mother should at least get it by now.

Kokila is basically cutting off her nose to spite her face. Hopefully she will regret her decision.

WHEN YOU RESPOND TO THIS POST - READ IT. Do NOT just jump into defending GOPI. Think about these points in the post.

a) IS AHEM REQUIRED TO LIKE GOPI BECAUSE YOU DO?

b) IS IT RIGHT FOR KOKILA TO FORCE HER CHILD TO MARRY PEOPLE OF HER CHOICE?

👏I am going to give a hand of applause for this thread. 13 pages...wow!......we finally got something to discuss about.................now back to the topic

Well, I didn't get to go through all of the post but I did go through a few and I probably know whats written in most of them. I am also going to repeat some of the things most of you already stated. To the topic opener, each one of us that has stayed with Saathiya from day one have been in this dilemma from day one...."Can you blame Ahem?"...that is the question....... The guilty parties in this whole situation is Ahem and his mother. His mother who forced him to marry Gopi and Ahem for not being a man. You are right, Ahem is not required to like Gopi, he isn't required to do anything. But he was required to take a stand when he told his mom about Anita, he was required to acknowledge his likes and dislikes in his life partner to his mother, he was required to give Gopi at least one chance after marriage, he was required to show some respect and humanity to Gopi, He IS REQUIRED to live up to his mistake and do the best he can to fix it. He is required to try. But.....unfortunately he did non of that. ONLY, BECAUSE GOPI IS UNEDUCATED. I can understand if he didn't like her for other reasons, but for a reason like that??? Today, he spoke out what was in his heart to his mom, he wants Gopi out of his life. Fine...where was that inner strength to talk to his mom when he wanted to marry Anita? Ahem not only betrayed once in his life he made the same mistake twice. BOTH...and I repeat BOTH relationships started on his consent. HE fell in love with Anita, but didn't have the guts to fulfill his promise. HE agreed to marry whoever his mother picked, but he didn't even give the girl a chance because he didn't take the time out to make sure she was up to his downgrade level. I can go on and on on how because of Ahem's mistake, Gopi is paying the price. In fact, even because of Koki's mistake, Gopi is paying the price today. As for Kokila, absolutely correct, Kokila should have gave her children the privilege to choose their life partner. We can truly say that she messed up with Ahem, but Kinjal, the situations Kinjal created she had no choice. Living in India, you can't scream I am a unmarried mother and then say no I just said that, it was lie. NOPE, the stain was put in the min you said you were a mother before marriage. And then to get a hand in marriage and then want to break it. KInjal so screwed up her life because of Umang that there was no turn around. Situations were to blame there. Plus, give them the right to marry who?? Someone like UMANG?? and cheap, scumbag that ruined a girls life just to get revenge??? I am sorry if my child ever wanted to marry someone like that I to would say NO. They have the right to marry whoever they want as long as that person is a RIGHT human being. There is a lot of things that came into play on where Gopi and Ahem stand today. But Ahem and Koki can not be excuse. It was Ahems fault, it is Ahem's fault and will stay that way till he figures out he ruined TWO girls life.