Radio tagging collars on humans

Roadrunnerz thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 15 years ago
#1
radio tagging of Indian students - is it inhuman or is it a just punishment for illegal migrants?

Radio tags are modern and trendy: US official

CNN-IBN
Posted on Feb 01, 2011 at 04:30pm IST
Edited by crazy_sunny - 15 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

38

Views

5.8k

Users

11

Likes

21

Frequent Posters

chal_phek_mat thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 15 years ago
#2
If you know the immigration rules of US, you know as soon as the university is deemed sham and the admissions are invalid, the visa status is terminated and the students are illegal in the country
option #1
Put the illegal immigrations on a boat back to their home country and never allow them to return
Option #2
Figure out what exactly happened and how they can tackle the situation, in the meanwhile put the students in protective custody
Option #3
Figure out what exactly happened, in the meanwhile let the kids go around but keep an eye on them but having an anke bracelet etc.
I think Option #3 is the most acceptable solution unless the students are offended, in that situation they are more than welcome to go back to their home country
373577 thumbnail
Posted: 15 years ago
#3
How about India legalising radio tagging and putting it to good use against all the illegal immigrants in the country. Would that amount to violation of human rights?
return_to_hades thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 15 years ago
#4

Originally posted by: zorrro

How about India legalising radio tagging and putting it to good use against all the illegal immigrants in the country. Would that amount to violation of human rights?



If you find the immigrants why not deport them instead of tagging. 😕 Unless you mean tag and deport, so that you can track them if they come back in.
return_to_hades thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 15 years ago
#5
Perhaps this should read 'radio tagging collars on Indian students' Unless we are debating the humanity of radio collars itself. Not sure of radio collars, but I'm all for shock collars to discipline children. 😆

Jokes apart, there are probably more radio collars on actual American citizens than Indian students. It is just a cost effective way to track people, not just criminals.

The Indian students got scammed and that sad and too bad. I expect authorities to fully investigate the university. However, illegal immigration has occurred and authorities have to follow investigative procedures. The radio collar is more cost effective and dignified than other alternatives.

What would the students prefer?

Detention at a USCIS detention center till the investigation is done.

or

Basic decent freedom compromised with a radio tagging collar.

On the broader perspective I am a proponent of expanding rights for undocumented immigrants and more immigration reform to fine tune methods of handling methods of immigration issues.


Summer3 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 15 years ago
#6
If radio tags are modern and trendy the US Official should use one too.
Summer3 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 15 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: blue-ice


use them for what Summerji?

Put it on their legs so that they too can be monitored.😆
I am sure most of them spend their time in pubs drinking away.
return_to_hades thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 15 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: Summer3

If radio tags are modern and trendy the US Official should use one too.



They do. Police and other official personnel have fleet and equipment tagged and tracked. Cab fleets also have similar tracking.

Another thing that strikes me is why is the Indian media calling it "collar" and creating imagery like a dog collar. The name for it really is ankle monitor, many even call it bracelet.
return_to_hades thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 15 years ago
#9

What's Wrong With Ankle Monitors?


By Shefali Anand

Why are Indians so mad about the ankle monitors that immigration officials have asked some Indian students who were in the United States studying at an allegedly fake university to wear? One American official is stumped about that.

nkle monitors are "very hip and happening" and are even worn by American movie stars and celebrities, according to a U.S. government official in India. When these celebrities are charged for drunk driving or other offences, they "choose the anklet rather than sitting in the red jumpsuit in prison," said Juliet Wurr, a public affairs officer in the U.S. Consulate in Hyderabad in an interview to NDTV.

Sure enough, Hollywood actress Lindsay Lohan has reportedly been asked to wear an ankle monitor in recent years to keep track of her alcohol levels. If that doesn't make ankle bracelets cool, then what does?

But the example of La Lohan may not appease Indians who are upset over the ankle monitors that some Indian students who were studying at Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton, California, are now sporting. The university was shut down last month by U.S. officials who called it a "sham university" set up primarily to facilitate foreign nationals to enter the U.S. illegally. A large number of the university's students are Indians, and authorities are now investigating their role.

The ankle monitors were issued to some of the students as a way to keep track of their movements. However, India doesn't view it so benignly. On Sunday, External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna called the monitors "inhuman" and said "Indian students are not criminals." He called for the monitors to be removed immediately.

In response, the U.S. Embassy in India on Monday said in a statement that these monitors were widely used in the U.S. as a standard procedure and they do not "necessarily imply guilt or suspicion of criminal activity."

Ms. Wurr definitely can't understand what the fuss is all about. "Funny people getting upset about this," she said on Tuesday, adding that her servants wear "big, heavy, silver anklets that look a heckuva lot more uncomfortable and binding than what I've seen on television."

A spokesman for the U.S. Consulate in New Delhi declined to comment.


Source: https://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2011/02/01/whats-wrong-with-ankle-monitors/

A mountain is being made of a molehill with this issue. I think Indians don't understand how common the ankle monitor is. Its considered a much more dignified option when you don't particularly deserve jail time or detention. If the officials perceived you as a criminal threat, you would not even receive the bracelet option.

Edited by return_to_hades - 15 years ago
_Angie_ thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 15 years ago
#10

Originally posted by: blue-ice


use them for what Summerji?

Its supposed to be taken as a trendy symbol according to a US consulate official. However according to MEA sources a deputy chief of mission, Donald Lu, in the absence of the US ambassador has expressed deep regrets at the insensitive remark made by
the public affairs officer with the American consulate in Hyderabad, Juliet Wur.
Edited by angie.4u - 15 years ago

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".