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someone please explain what guddu meant when he said he will take r aja harshwardhans way??? whos raja?? confused1

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Posted: 14 years ago
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It's actually Raja Harishchandra, who believed that one must be always truthful and true to their word. So basically Guddu's reference is if Runjhun words are true and everything he touches becomes impure, then it must apply to him touching her as well. The other reference he makes is the "johar pratha" which is similar to a woman burning herself to prevent humiliation - an act of self-sacrifice.
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thanks!!! maes sense now...boy guddu loves his symbolic comparisons
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hessa85

thanks!!! maes sense now...boy guddu loves his symbolic comparisons

LOL he really loves that and i love the way he speaks and his hindi, too good 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hessa85

someone please explain what guddu meant when he said he will take r aja harshwardhans way??? whos raja?? confused1


Wafah is right, it is Raja Harishchandra.

I had heard the story of Raja Harishchandra and his references from my childhood. Like if someone says he/she is telling the truth and we don't trust, we would jokingly say - "oh yeah, you are from the clan of Raja Harishchandra (mockingly saying that we don't believe a word of what you say)".

Anyway, here is the actual story from the internet:

Harishchandra had two unique qualities. The first being, he kept his word and never went back on what he uttered as a promise. The other being, he never uttered a lie in his life. These twin qualities were tested heavily in his life by various circumstances that led him to penury and separation from his family. But he stood to his principles in the face of all ordeals and persevered to become a symbol of courage.

It is said that the great sage Vishwamitra, once approached Harishchandra and informed him of a promise made by the king during the sage's dream to donate his entire kingdom. Harishchandra was so virtuous, that he immediately made good his word and donated his entire kingdom to the sage and walked away with his wife and son.
Since, the entire world was under the sage after he donated his kingdom, the king had to go to Varanasi, a holy town dedicated to Lord Shiva. This was now the only place outside the influence of the sage. But the sage proclaimed that for an act of donation to be completed, an additional amount as Dakshina (honorarium) had to be paid. Harishchandra, with no money in his hands, had to sell his wife and son to a Brahmin Grihastha to pay for the Dakshina. When the money collected still did not suffice for the purpose, he sold himself to a guard at the cremation ground, who was in charge of collecting taxes for the bodies to be cremated.
The king, his wife and son had to sustain tremendous hardships doing their respective chores. The king helped the guard cremate the dead bodies, while his wife and son were used as household helpers at the house of the Brahmin. Once, the son had been to the garden to pluck flowers for his master's prayer, when he was bitten by a snake and he died instantly. His mother, having nobody to sympathise for her, carried his body to the cremation grounds. In acute penury, she could not even pay the taxes needed to cremate him. Harishchandra did not recognise his wife and son. He asked the lady to sell her golden mangalasutra and pay the tax. It is at this instance that his wife recognises the man as her husband. She has a boon that her husband only could see her mangalasutra. Harishchandra then came to her and recognised her as his wife and was stung by pangs of agony.

But, Harishchandra, was dutybound by his job to perform the cremation only after the acceptance of the tax. So, he asked his wife, if she was willing to undergo further hardships and stand by him in this hour of calamity. The faithful wife readily gave assent. She had in her possession only a saree, a part of which was used to cover the dead body of her son. She offers half of her lone dress as the tax, which Harishchandra could accept and perform the last rites of his son. When she proceeded to remove her dress, miracles happened.
Lord Vishnu, Indra and all Devas and the sage Vishwamitra himself manifested themselves on the scene, and praised Harishchandra for his perseverance and steadfastness. They brought his son back to life. They also offered the king and his wife, instant places in heaven. Harishchandra refused, stating that he was bound to his master, the guard. The Devas then reveal that the guard was none other than Yama. He again refused, saying that he cannot leave behind his subjects, by Kshatriya Dharma. He asked for a place in heaven for all his subjects. But the gods refused, explaining that the subjects had their own Karma and they have to undergo them. The king was then ready to forego all his virtues and religiousness for his people, so that they could ascend to heaven leaving him behind. The gods, now immensely pleased with the unassailable character of the great king, offered heavenly abode to the king, the queen and all their subjects.
The sage Vishwamitra helped to populate the kingdom again and installed Harishchandra's son as the king.
Rohitashwa was the son of Harishchandra. He founded the town of Rohtas Garh in Rohtas district, Bihar.

This moving story affected one of the great men of the 19th-20th century, Mahatma Gandhi, who was deeply influenced by the virtues of telling the truth when he watched the play of Harishchandra in his childhood.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wafah

It's actually Raja Harishchandra, who believed that one must be always truthful and true to their word. So basically Guddu's reference is if Runjhun words are true and everything he touches becomes impure, then it must apply to him touching her as well. The other reference he makes is the "johar pratha" which is similar to a woman burning herself to prevent humiliation - an act of self-sacrifice.



By referring to Raja Harishchandra, I felt Guddu is trying to say that , yes, I walk of the path of Raja Harishchandra (the path of truth) and as promised, I will let you go but before that I would touch you.

Here is what happens between the two:

Runjhun: Look, Guddu, let me go. I apologize for whatever I said yday. Don't malign me. Let me go.
Guddu: Let you go? Hmm? I should let you go? Till yday, you were preaching so much, you were talking about self-respect. What happened today? Hmm? Today you are apologizing? What were you saying yday? That I made your life a living-hell? That I, Guddu Shukla is savage? You will teach me how to live life!? What were you saying yday? That your marriage items became impure because of me touching them? Today, I will teach you what impurity means in the real sense. I touched your things, so you burnt them. Today, I will touch you. What will you do? Will you light (burn) yourself too? That would complete the Johar Prata complete, isn't it?
Runjhun: Let me go.
Guddu: Let you go? Alright, I will let you go, Runjhun Mishra. Let us(me) do one thing, let us walk on the path of Raja Harishchandra (the path of truth), I will let you go, really, but before that, I will touch you, that too "properly"( in the real sense).

So, I don't think, he is referring to her saying of things becoming impure in his reference to Raja Harishchandra.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hessa85

thanks!!! maes sense now...boy guddu loves his symbolic comparisons


That is right. I like the way the writers of this show use the people from history in Guddu's dialogues.

That definitely makes him and knowledgeable guy (not sure if he is educated or not?)

He has also used well-known people from todays times too in his dialogues.

In Guddu's dialogues, here are the people from history and from current times:
People from History:
Shahajahan - The one who got Taj Mahal built.
Anarkali - Price Salim's girl-friend. (Salim was King Akbar's son)
Raja Harishchandra - King who is known for his truthfulness.
Kittur Rani Chennamma - Queen from North Karnataka who fought the Britishers. Her story is almost similar to the story of Rani of Jhansi, Laxmibai.

People from todays times:
(Mahinder Singh) Dhoni -> Cricketer
Sachin (Tendulkar) -> Cricketer
P. T. Usha -> Athelete

In last thurday's episode Mittho tells to Kalsanwali something about Ramayan and Tulsidas.

I was really surprised when said about Kittur Rani Chennamma, so the writers being North Indians had written about a Queen from South India. It just shows the knowledge of the writing team.

I had not known about Johar Prata before. Came to know now.
Had not known that, Chamkadar means bat! (The bird). This word was used by Amma where she says referring to Guddu that, however straight one want him to be, he want to be ulta (upside down) like the bat! That was a hilarious dialogue.
Here are pics of bat:




I really like the dialogues of this show. Sometimes it is difficult to understand needs to be keenly heard to understand them.

My kudos to the writing team of Bhagonwali. Great job!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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will comment on this ,,,gnna get to sleep now!

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