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Posted: 15 years ago
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IT HAPPENS..............

The wedding ends and the marriage begins

The band goes away, the flowers wilt, the banquet is over and all that's left is you and him

Yes, Marriages are made in Heaven but they are performed right here on this oh so non-celestial plane

Just because two individuals have become one does not mean that their individuality diminishes. They still have their personal triumphs and shortcomings. If it is ok to share the joys of one's triumph with one's soul mate then by the same token it should be ok to seek solace in support of one's shortcomings from one's soul mate. This give and take from true partners is what makes a relationship special.

Sex in marriage becomes not just an act of desire but an expression of love, intimacy and understanding for your partner (if partners are compatible on multiple levels of their relationship like Kriya is i.e. a budding yet true partnership not just an arrangement of convenience or tradition)

Sex is a vital part of marriage and it is what sets the wedded relationship apart from every other relationship that an individual has. Sex is not THE bond but the underpinning that supports and strengthens the emotional, physical and mental bond between two people.

Emotions and need don't check a schedule before they crop up and understanding this is a sign of maturity on the part of any partner in a relationship.

Yes, it is true that men see a healthy libido, their sexual prowess and their function as a provider as measures of a successful and healthy relationship while women see friendship, their ability to attract and maintain the interest of their partner and their function as a nurturer as measures of a successful and healthy relationship.

But if I may be so bold as to say this (and hope not to be viewed in a prudish light) men are not the only beings that need sex as form of assurance. Just as men need physical intimacy as a balm for their bruised ego or their underlying masculine insecurities (be it financial, emotional or otherwise), women too seek physical intimacy later on in their married life as balm for their vanity (it is not uncommon for a woman after the birth of her children to seek comfort and reassurance in her husband's attentions as balm for her own feminine insecurities).

Krishna is not like Shakti who seeks sex as a matter of routine or obligation, we know this because for months he gave her space and still continues to do so. But that does not making him invulnerable or above insecure emotions. We saw that yesterday. He was rejected by everyone who he thought loved him as unconditionally as he did and in this ongoing moment of rejection, he turned for love, reassurance and comfort to the only individual who he still TRUSTS to love him for what he is and what he is becoming not where he came from.

What we saw was a typical relationship dynamic in most couples. It is not vile or selfish (for the most part) but natural, real and special communication between a closely bonded couple. And believe me, if you have a good relationship with your spouse, you want to be the person that he turns to for solace, reassurance and comfort.

I don't usually comment on Kriya romance because Tanthya does a fabulous job at it but I thought that the topic (even outside Kriya) was one that is often misunderstood.

Hope

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Posted: 15 years ago
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very well said hope, krish may have come across as someone who is selfish and wants it whenever he pleases and prats should be there to service that need be it whatever time of the day or night.....but i didnt see it that way, maybe because we more experienced gals see it differently than the younger ones...😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Very lovely post , agree with every aspect
.Cant comment on KRiya coz I stopped watching the show .Am not interested in watching Krishna tamed by HER of all people .I dont like her at all ..
Sex is needed by women in equal measure ................if men withold it , the impact on a woman's psyche will be detrimental . She wud get a complex that perhaps counselling will never be avble to rectify .Women r more vain than men , and will go crazy if rejected and r given zilch attention for months together . Sex is an emotional need for women ....they enjoy the feeling of being BADLY NEEDED which their spouse gives them . For men its also largely physical .
That aspect was never shown in Pratigya . We saw a rejected Krishna for months after marraige , we never saw a rejected Pratigya which i Wud have loved to see . Months of her lying on a bed while Krishna came in and went out without even glancing at her face , but providing her with food and shelter and being politically coorrect was what I had hoped to see . I wud have loved to see her FAthers advice on that one ...........coz his daughter had done exactly this .
Serials shud show that women need physical intimacy as much as men . See how Kesar looks when rejected ............reality for u . Witholding physical intimacy beyond a certain point destroys psuche of the spouse ..humiliates him or her in the worst possible way . If they showed Krishna suffering it , they shud have shown Pratigya suffering too .Instead they showed chilli powder test .
Its at that point I left the serial .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Very lovely post , agree with every aspect

.Cant comment on KRiya coz I stopped watching the show .Am not interested in watching Krishna tamed by HER of all people .I dont like her at all ..
Sex is needed by women in equal measure ................if men withold it , the impact on a woman's psyche will be detrimental . She wud get a complex that perhaps counselling will never be avble to rectify .Women r more vain than men , and will go crazy if rejected and r given zilch attention for months together . Sex is an emotional need for women ....they enjoy the feeling of being BADLY NEEDED which their spouse gives them . For men its also largely physical .
That aspect was never shown in Pratigya . We saw a rejected Krishna for months after marraige , we never saw a rejected Pratigya which i Wud have loved to see . Months of her lying on a bed while Krishna came in and went out without even glancing at her face , but providing her with food and shelter and being politically coorrect was what I had hoped to see . I wud have loved to see her FAthers advice on that one ...........coz his daughter had done exactly this .
Serials shud show that women need physical intimacy as much as men . See how Kesar looks when rejected ............reality for u . Witholding physical intimacy beyond a certain point destroys psuche of the spouse ..humiliates him or her in the worst possible way . If they showed Krishna suffering it , they shud have shown Pratigya suffering too .Instead they showed chilli powder test .
Its at that point I left the serial .

That's a shame....if you had watched for a little longer you would have seen Krishna reject (albeit witha lot of effort) Pratigya's first real attempt at physical intimacy with Krishna. Admitted, she didnt get rejected for months and months, as it appears, like Krishna had to endure.....but she was certainly made to feel Krishna's indifference..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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thank you so much for this beautiful post!
after watching that scene i was shocked at krishna's behavior
i thought he was being selfish
but now understand his state of mind clearly
very well written 👏 👏 you made my day 🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hope a beautiful post. An insight into marriage the next phase after wedding, after the honeymoon is over, when reality seeps in. U run, u can hide but u can't escape from it.

The cvs have done a good job here for the first time. Baba's shortcoming of not working has been reiterated to him in number of times which is re-inforcing up his insecurities. We all shortcomings and when brought face to face with them we al go through what he is going thro and that is when we need someone we love. Baba can't deny it anymore

As u said it women assured with a cuddle or by just holding them whereas men want something more physical. I found the scene very real. Baba actually seeking from his loved one and in his childish way telling her she has changed and doesn't care about him. He was speaking out his biggest fear. He is fiinding it difficult to comprehend that unconditional love what he truely believes in doesn't exist. The rejection and isolation is finally hitting in hard. He is worried if the family he believed to be his doesn't want him any more can my biwi still love me despite my inabilities.

Have to say Prats did what most biwi's who love their husbands do i.e. sacrifice her comfort and assure her partner. Unfortunately people in this forum were again very quick to say all he baba thinks is about sex. I guess u have to be in the situation to understand it better.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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We all crave for physical intimacy but the thought process for those craving for men and women are different, like you Hope.

I think Krishna wanted reassurance that he is still wanted as rest of them have taunted him in some way or the other..Most recently by feeling rejected by the Saxes again and him starting to compare himself with Aman who is everything Saxes (inc Pratigya) would look for when choosing a suitable suitor for their daughter.

For some Sex is a means of comfort as food, shopping is for others...Escaping the reality and seeking solace in something you love. For Krishna it was Pratigya who obliged as his needs were greater than hers at that moment. Like you said Hope it happens and things are done spontaneously when one is married. I don't think she was submissive as she knew what she was doing but nevertheless gave into her husband's craving.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: JoeyZaza

thank you so much for this beautiful post!

after watching that scene i was shocked at krishna's behavior
i thought he was being selfish
but now understand his state of mind clearly
very well written 👏 👏 you made my day 🤗



honey:

your welcome

everyone likes Krishna when he's adorable but even the most adorable of men have other facets that we should not forget, hai na?

when you love your partner you love the package not just the glossy attractive cover

Krishna is going to get way worse because now that his relationship issues are solved, his sustainabiltiy and capability issues are bang on the horizon.

he will lash out and she is standing the closest to him right now.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Hope a beautiful post. An insight into marriage the next phase after wedding, after the honeymoon is over, when reality seeps in. U run, u can hide but u can't escape from it.

The cvs have done a good job here for the first time. Baba's shortcoming of not working has been reiterated to him in number of times which is re-inforcing up his insecurities. We all shortcomings and when brought face to face with them we al go through what he is going thro and that is when we need someone we love. Baba can't deny it anymore

As u said it women assured with a cuddle or by just holding them whereas men want something more physical. I found the scene very real. Baba actually seeking from his loved one and in his childish way telling her she has changed and doesn't care about him. He was speaking out his biggest fear. He is fiinding it difficult to comprehend that unconditional love what he truely believes in doesn't exist. The rejection and isolation is finally hitting in hard. He is worried if the family he believed to be his doesn't want him any more can my biwi still love me despite my inabilities.

Have to say Prats did what most biwi's who love their husbands do i.e. sacrifice her comfort and assure her partner. Unfortunately people in this forum were again very quick to say all he baba thinks is about sex. I guess u have to be in the situation to understand it better.




KC the CVs have done an amazing job in showing different facets of married life in a very realistic fashion.

it is not easy to show the shortcomings of a popular character. people do not like to see the harsher avatars. but in a way I have to say this track interests me.

Krish has never been challenged about his functionality and his capacity to stand financially independent. He never felt the need to know how because it goes against the ideology he was brought up on.

he never saw himself as the average Joe. he always saw himself as an heir apparent and so this new development has totally blindsided him.

he wanted an alternative life to the one his family was living - fine - now he has to find a way to make that happen on his own.

I don't blame his family for their behaviour towards him. he has stepped out of the circle and they do not know how to react to this detour. they wanted the status quo and his life is disrupting theirs so of course friction, fatigue and strain is obvious in family ties.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Great post Hope,
While I wish the honeymoon phase had lasted more than 2 weeks, I like the way the CVs are showing that marriage is about more than just procreation and sex is about more then just romance - its about connection and validation and yes sometimes just plain hunger and desire.
Just as no one would explode in anger over a wife watching a movie she didn't care for or cook a meal that consisted of HIS favorite foods (even if she did not particularly love them) to celebrate, or comfort or share or demonstrate that she supports him and accepts him - him turning to his wife and her responding to his need - is not just life - its love and marriage.
While love and sex are not synonyms. Sex without love is incomplete - and - so is love without sex.
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