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Posted: 15 years ago
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I mean is it OK for any women let it be Indian to say "I L U" to anyone for fun. The way Koyal reacted with a smile and saying I did it for fun......as if it was an extremely common thing to do....I don't know what the current Indian women or girls are .....so I was curious.. I never stayed in India...but I hope in reality Indian women don't do this...

Actually here none of the British girl or women will say this unless they really mean it...
I hope my India is not loosing it all morals.

Or I think the script writers have just written this part of the story without taking care of the image of the young Indian women.

I know I am taking this seriously, but since this serial is closer to truth (except the Jetha-Babita tracks), so I expect it to maintain reality.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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i agree with you jayved
this episode of popat koyal has lost sense completely

none of the indian women or girl will do this
ya there may be some girl who wonder around with guys for fun or timepass but they never say ILU just for fun
every one has moral values being liberal of funny doesnt mean
that person should go irresponsible or should start playing with other emotions

i am feeling bad for popat also but he also behaved like fools
before proposing any one you should think twice
there is a big age gap between both of them and they doesnt make a good couple
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Posted: 15 years ago
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well none of the girls are doing this kind of thing just for time pass ke liye.... its not so real.... but the writers wants to give other ppl chance too thats why they have written this kind of script!!! if this koyal can play prank on T Mehta which makes Anjali and Tarak's married life on the rocks she can do anything!!! 😉 overall none of the girl can play this kind of prank!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think she meant I love you in friendly way but if popat misunderstood her gesture i dont blame Koyal. It's not just india girl or guy moral question. The questions which part of the world you see guy says I love you to the girl on their first date. Even though he said who arrange the enggagement party even without asking girl.
Surprise is good but popat lal gave a shock ...
Infact he made plan to go UK , enggagement , marriage everything even without consulting ms. koyal or her family :-) that sould bit selfish (or should i say despo.move)
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I thought "ILU" was reserved only for what it meant..otherwise one should say "I like U" or "I admire you". Love is normally linked to marriage.....and I doubt whether it is ok for anyone to say it for the sake of it. Especially, when someone is sitting with a unknown person in a candle light dinner....cracking a joke of ILU means something serious. Anyways...diversity in human behaviour is what have made evolution here so different people take different ways..nowadays people decide morals with their way of thinking but the bechmark is lost.

Anyways, Popat will not die...because he was shown in next episode preview..and life will run as normal.

Regards,

Originally posted by: bigboss33

I think she meant I love you in friendly way but if popat misunderstood her gesture i dont blame Koyal. It's not just india girl or guy moral question. The questions which part of the world you see guy says I love you to the girl on their first date. Even though he said who arrange the enggagement party even without asking girl.

Surprise is good but popat lal gave a shock ...
Infact he made plan to go UK , enggagement , marriage everything even without consulting ms. koyal or her family :-) that sould bit selfish (or should i say despo.move)

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi,
Interesting discussion, I live hear in the US and I do have teenage kids. Saying 'I love you' or 'I hate you' is the most common thing here. Nobody will take it that way. But one thing here that the kids are very innocent at heart or rather gullible comparitively. Speally the Indian kids do have a lot of respect here for their family and surroundings.
But in case of Payal and Popat it is the circumstances in which they said 'I love you' to each other. I thought this episode was purposely meant for such issues, where younsters say things without thinking of the concequences. I read the Midday (http://www.mid-day.com/) published from Mumbai regularly and every single day there are atleast 2-3 three stories these days about teen love failures and murders. This is a very opt time to bring out this episode. My only regret is that they are all shouting at Popat and no one is repremiding Koyal for her irresponsible behaviour.
Please do not feel Offended, I do not mean to degrade or disrespect anyone here. But the basic problem I see in Indian teens these days is that they are trying to ape the West, specially US. I was in India last December. I was so ashamed to walk on the streets as you would see the youngsters parked outside their college or restaurants, railway stations smoocking and getting intimate, even in the US I do not see such behaviour. Right outside the college campus you see the young girls and boys behaving in very inappropriate manner. I could not beleive these are the streets I grew up in and this is my country India. I do not know about other states, I am talking about Mumbai as I was born and brought up there and every time I go home that is where I spend most of my time.
SD
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I feel the same as you. In UK, the real British people (ignoring the imigrants from Europe and other countries) behave very professionally. They are both intellectually and emotionally intelligent.

The problem in some part of India (or probably major places in India) is that we don't have the pride in our Indian heritage. I think it's not us to blame but the history of India says that India had been ruled by Mughals, Spanish, Arabian and British, the sum total of more than 500 years. I feel glad that our wariors fought and protected our ancient Indian heritage which we are talking about now been getting lost. Perhaps, Indians never felt proud about the Indian heritage probably been forcefully streamed into thinking by the invaders as orthodox and inferior.

I see a different air in UK here, when people say British culture, they say it with a very proud gesture. And we know what the British ancestors have done: 80 years ago M. Gandhi was thrown outside the train on the grounds been he was an Indian. Tons of gold was transported from India to UK and story is more deeper. But still the British say their culture with a pride. I don't have any problems with british because they have changed almost completely now. On the other hand Indians should learn from British to respect thier own culture. And the culture like ours...there's lots to be proud of....we had hundreds of freedom fighters who happily hung themself for the country, we have the world peace promoting people like M. Gandhi, we have rich heritage of respecting every culture (Guests are treated specially), that's why India has never counquered any country in the past...and tons more...I feel there are more reasons for Indians to be proud of for being an Indians than a British been British...but sadly, Indians imititate the west.

I can easily say this perhaps: If I had some supernatural powers then I will do these things today and by tomorrow morning every Indian will forget the West and will become proud of being an Indian. These are:
(a) Eliminate all superstitions in India (it's important to note that these superstitions were never part of Indian culture but rather was intentionally pumped into the Indian belief system by all sorts of invaders to make Indians inferior.
(b) Eliminate all corruption in India (from the ruling party to the municipal coorporation).
(c) Bring all Indian money (called black money) in Swiss bank to India. Statistics say that if all looted Indian money is bought back then India will be out of debt in just a single day...current India's debt is in thousands of crores.
(d) Eliminate all poverty in India. (approx. 40% of Indians is below poverty line...just imagine if all these people were educated then where our country would be now)
(e) Eliminate all terrorist activists (from Lakshar o Thaiba, Dawood, exteremists, Naxalist, illegal Bangladesh and Srilankan activist and foreign terrorists)
(f) Every single city be equipped with wireless Internet, top-material roads, electricity, water supply, gas supply, schools, hospitals, universities, colleges, high skyscrapers and shopping malls.
(g) Eliminate all forceful conversions in faith.
(h) Eliminate all tortures to women and kids. Equal status to women.
(i) Eliminate all false media
.... this list can go uptill many pages.

There is a fire in me...because I feel for my culture, my country.

The only politician in my opinion atleast who has shown wonders in my state is Narendra Modi. Media and other parties have tainted his image so perhaps non-Gujaratis might not know him properly. But every single Gujarati knows all media is rubbish and this man has taken so many actions to eliminate to some extent all factors which I have listed above. Just to give you an idea, before 9 years (before Narendra Modi being CM), in my city there were open gutters (small gutter routes attached to each house, similar to ancient drainage system). In 9 years every single village let alone the city has Internet facility to say the very least.

People live in the country, they work, they generate money, they pay money in form of tax (which is lakhs of crores, Re1,00,000crores) and that's a big number.
But it is the politicians who can use this money to develop the country. Corrupt politicians use this money and stack it in Swiss bank.

So simple equation is:
Good politicians = Good leaders -> Country's development (all the above listed factors will get eliminated) -> Indians will become proud of themselves -> Indians will stop copying the West -> People like me will stop writing this long post.

Jai Hind.


Originally posted by: dalals

Hi,

Interesting discussion, I live hear in the US and I do have teenage kids. Saying 'I love you' or 'I hate you' is the most common thing here. Nobody will take it that way. But one thing here that the kids are very innocent at heart or rather gullible comparitively. Speally the Indian kids do have a lot of respect here for their family and surroundings.
But in case of Payal and Popat it is the circumstances in which they said 'I love you' to each other. I thought this episode was purposely meant for such issues, where younsters say things without thinking of the concequences. I read the Midday (http://www.mid-day.com/) published from Mumbai regularly and every single day there are atleast 2-3 three stories these days about teen love failures and murders. This is a very opt time to bring out this episode. My only regret is that they are all shouting at Popat and no one is repremiding Koyal for her irresponsible behaviour.
Please do not feel Offended, I do not mean to degrade or disrespect anyone here. But the basic problem I see in Indian teens these days is that they are trying to ape the West, specially US. I was in India last December. I was so ashamed to walk on the streets as you would see the youngsters parked outside their college or restaurants, railway stations smoocking and getting intimate, even in the US I do not see such behaviour. Right outside the college campus you see the young girls and boys behaving in very inappropriate manner. I could not beleive these are the streets I grew up in and this is my country India. I do not know about other states, I am talking about Mumbai as I was born and brought up there and every time I go home that is where I spend most of my time.
SD

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Posted: 15 years ago
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i think words like i love you should be said only if its felt, noone should use them otherwise.... whether girl or boy... its like making fun of someone's feeling and if you do that and someone will do the samething with you after sometime....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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very well posted by everyone... 👏
now in the last episode... that was the case... tarak has make koyal understand that saying love u is not a joke... if u dont love that person dont say it... and that was the moral after all that koyal's drama....
and about indian culture.... well in big cities india has changed a lot... but still in small cities its hard to hold girl's hand and walk in public... even if u just sitting in part just as talking ppl stare at u and make u feel uncomfertable... so i dont know much about big cites but in small towns and cities... its still the same india!! 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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JayVed, Very well said. I think all Indians take pride in being an Indian, unfortunately it is not translated in their daily practice. But I see these days a lot of awareness is being created, specially by celebraties and NGOs. Everytime I turn the Indian chanel on, I see Aamir Khan advertising for Athithi Devo Bhav. Those messages are very inspiring. SD

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