DOTW: How far is too far..? *CLOSED*

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hello everyone!

Here's the first DOTW for the THBTKZH Forum. Just so everyone knows how this works - basically I'll be posting a topic/question for discussion and then we'll discuss that in this thread until next week when the new DOTW goes up..

So, about the DOTW for this week, I know we've all noticed Shree's behavior towards Mugda. At times it's rude and maybe even abusive but here's my question for this week - Is he really being abusive or is it just frustration? And if it IS frustration on his part, does that excuse him of the way he acts? Does the fact that he's tired/upset/frustrated/hurt give him an excuse for his actions?

He's been upset on several occasions because he's felt wronged and at the more latest incidents, I even feel some what upset for him - but does all that still excuse him from being rude and insulting to his wife? Asking her to get her own job or throwing her away like a "disgusted" thing just because she's been working in the kitchen and it showed..? Is that even fair of him? To expect so much of her? Does he have no other responsibility towards her other than feeding her and clothing her? Is it too much to expect him to treat her like an equal in the relationship - with respect and admiration?

Basically, I can understand a little bit of frustration and I can even understand a bit of a "blow out" every once in a while - but how often is too often? And how far is too far? When does it stop being just "frustration" and turn into "abuse"?



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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Fivr: I think shree is the kind of man who is well when things go well and do not have a clue how to handle things when they go wrong...reason...they do not have the ability to analyze the issue and process it and find a solution..they want a easy way out or someone provide the solution there for them already....

And over the period Mugdha has become more meek and does not retaliate and stand up for herself and this has given more ammunition for shree to continue with his erratic behavior...blowing hot and cold...

It will all come down to emotional intelligence if you ask me and Shree lacks it. Shree's character sketch is portrayed very well, its not at all uncommon to find men or even woman like shree...and they almost always take everything in life for granted and in their mind can justify anything that they do...so what they do is not at all wrong if you ask them, as they never ever consider anything from other's POV...call them selfish...maybe....just my 2 cents
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shree I think is the perfect example of a 'man' who may not be too ambitious to get things done in life and probably all that frustration he shows on Mughda.. and Mugda probably like majority of Indian women will accept it because it is her husband !!

but with the way things are moving, probably we will see a new Mughda ?

wat a way to go Thoda Hai.. you are rocking ...

Geet
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i think shree is not that bad. its shortage of everything in life made him rude from outside. bt he loves his family very much & mugdha aswell. yes his behavior sometimes is not justified specially when they both were out for dinner and he was stareing a mini skirt grl continuosly and the same time when mugdha said abt the guy that he is not that bad, shree burst into anger and left the place immediately.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anandana

@Fivr: I think shree is the kind of man who is well when things go well and do not have a clue how to handle things when they go wrong...reason...they do not have the ability to analyze the issue and process it and find a solution..they want a easy way out or someone provide the solution there for them already....

And over the period Mugdha has become more meek and does not retaliate and stand up for herself and this has given more ammunition for shree to continue with his erratic behavior...blowing hot and cold...

It will all come down to emotional intelligence if you ask me and Shree lacks it. Shree's character sketch is portrayed very well, its not at all uncommon to find men or even woman like shree...and they almost always take everything in life for granted and in their mind can justify anything that they do...so what they do is not at all wrong if you ask them, as they never ever consider anything from other's POV...call them selfish...maybe....just my 2 cents

Yeah, Shree's definitely selfish to a point these days - even if he doesn't outright refuse to do something that he doesn't like he definitely makes a heck of a lot of fuss about it. But is it because he's been a doormat so long (earlier in his life) that now he's just had too much? That he cannot control his frustration after years and years of being treated so.
I hate that he is so rude to Mugdha, but maybe Mugdha has also been "conditioned" to put up with his behavior after so many years of marriage. I have no problem with Shree being upset when he is wronged - but does he have to be so ridiculously loud and vindictive about it? They live in a small family, with a lot of financial strain. Is it soo hard for him to understand that his wife would try to make ends meet in the entire home first than just focus on him and what he wants? I mean why does he expect her to focus all her energy on him and his well being when he can't even spare two minute of his time to talk to her?
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Originally posted by: geetruk06

Shree I think is the perfect example of a 'man' who may not be too ambitious to get things done in life and probably all that frustration he shows on Mughda.. and Mugda probably like majority of Indian women will accept it because it is her husband !!

but with the way things are moving, probably we will see a new Mughda ?

wat a way to go Thoda Hai.. you are rocking ...

Geet

Mugda is an educated talented woman - apparently she scored better than Shree too! So WHY is she okay with being treated so? Has she been able to con her self into believing that his behavior can be justified by whatever reason? I mean I know women like that who justify every ridiculous act by their husband in the name of love, frustration and stress. Sure he's frustrated but you're not his punching bag! If he is getting upset, that doesn't absolve him of his responsibility to understand that you might get upset too.
Love really is blind to a fault, I believe. But I hope there is a way to show balance between trusting someone entirely and being practical about it too - if they do something nice for you, love them; if they fail at something, encourage them; but if they get abusive, please knock them down to size!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bipasha23

i think shree is not that bad. its shortage of everything in life made him rude from outside. bt he loves his family very much & mugdha aswell. yes his behavior sometimes is not justified specially when they both were out for dinner and he was stareing a mini skirt grl continuosly and the same time when mugdha said abt the guy that he is not that bad, shree burst into anger and left the place immediately.

You know that's the one thing that I've mentioned earlier too - that maybe it's just his frustration at being wrong over and over again for the past so many years that have made him lose his inhibition when it comes to be rude and obnoxious. But that can be tolerated to a limit in my opinion! Just because he gets frustrated easier doesn't mean their situation has changed - they are still living in a small house with financial issues - the only thing changed here is HIM! So if there are issues that seem more prominent to him than they did before, it's all a matter of his perspective - because that's the only variable between back then and now.
He just cannot be rude to Mugda and think it would be acceptable in the long run. Once or twice toh everyone loses their temper and patience - it's understandable. But every time? All the time? And like you mentioned him ogling girls in mini skirts? I am sorry, WHAT is that about? And then he got upset at Mugda for answering a ridiculous question that HE asked?! Talk about pot calling the kettle black!
I think he needs a character make over!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Fivr: Excellent topic yaar...trust Shree's character to make us all experts in psychology 😆

BTW i just love the analysis that is going on here..

When i wrote my POV earlier, the mini skirt thing skipped my mind. there is no excuse for oggling, how much ever you have been suppressed in your life 😡, and there was nothing going wrong that day when he took mugdha out for him to behave that way...double standards...MCP


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Originally posted by: Anandana

@Fivr: Excellent topic yaar...trust Shree's character to make us all experts in psychology 😆

BTW i just love the analysis that is going on here..

When i wrote my POV earlier, the mini skirt thing skipped my mind. there is no excuse for oggling, how much ever you have been suppressed in your life 😡, and there was nothing going wrong that day when he took mugdha out for him to behave that way...double standards...MCP




Yaar, I'm just glad you guys like it. I was worried that it might not be "stimulating" enough for a discussion. But yeah, I don't think we need a reason to dissect character - we're always on the look out for an excuse! 🤣

Shree was guilty of ogling girls that day and it was his own guilt that he transferred on Mugda and assumed she was doing the same! You know how they say that you see the world through the window of your own character - how you are with the world is how you expect the world to be with you. And in Shree's case I guess he expected Mugda to be ogling at the guy too! Which in and of it self is a disgusting thought to be roaming in a husband's mind! 🤢
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you knw fivr. this is the only topic which we can discuss from many point of view. shree's character and his relation with wife keeps on changing time to time so its never ending topic.

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