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Posted: 15 years ago
#81
Hopester what wonderful posts , truly .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: SAM2U

Hope this is a public forum, Any one can debate misconceptions or POVs. Its not a matter of courtesy its a right. IF someone wants only like minded members to respond to their topics, they should put it in bold either in topic header or within the first post.



Sam, I agree it is a public forum. I also believe it is a democratic forum. pratigya fans can post prat frendly posts and krishna fans can post krishna friendly posts and kriya fans can post kriya friendly posts. while expressing views and conversing openly is a right, I do not believe gate crashing is a right. if you find this post offensive you can exercize your democratic right to express your views in an environment more receptive of your views. the views of krishna fans on this thread seem to disappoint you alot, then for your own piece of mind and in the interest of cohabiting peacefully maybe you should only visit and coment on those posts where the opinions are more palatable and not as frustrating or disappointing.

Debate is possible only when all parties within the debate speak objectively. but in your case and our case , I have yet to see an objectively crafted opinion.

all our opinions are heavily heavily influenced by our subjective perceptions of both the leads and our preferences for one over the other.

in such a scenario, opinions expressed cannot lead to debate but only arguments. so let us not deceive ourselves about the illusion that we are debating with one another.

as regards the above statement, in the interest of courtesy, somethings are not always expressly stated, however, one always responds to environment they find themselves in and read between the lines

Hope
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ~*simran*~

Everyone is entitled to an opinion that is respectful and as per the rules on this forum.

Simran I agree and for the longest time I have not responded to those who I believe present an opposing view for argument sake rather than debate.

However, you used an important comment above. for a while now I have seen that a few posters present comments in a snide and insulting manner. they do not use words to achieve this effect but it is evident in the tone of their posts. putting smiley faces and *lolz* and laughing emoticons strategically throughtout your post does not diminish the snide tone or the intent of comments.

it is only after seeing a repeated pattern which is now turning into an unhealthy trend do I voice my thoughts which may be considered objectionable by some.

Kools, I think I have said enough now and if I say any more then an abuse report may cause the mods to close this topic.

hope
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Posted: 15 years ago
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😆 No I said she is sophisticated so I assumed she HATED public spectacles .But u know wat , she doesnt .Coz if shje had , she wud have selected other options . Two months wait instead of washing dirty laundry in public and shaming her own maayka was infinitely ok and practical . But nope , she chose this . She shamed sasural and maayka bOTH when in reality there was no need . Her Dad showed her the path , by unecessarily flinging himself in jail and she went a step ahead and dug earth to uncover skeletons to PUBLIC when other choices were there ....in the name of HONESTY .And pray , were they honest in court ?her Dad told judge Adarsh had NOTHING to do with this , and she too kept quiet about bros role in affair . NObody said its OK for Krishna to make scenes coz he is uneducated , what I said was its surprsing SHE makes scenes although she is educated . Theres a difference , if u note it .😊
What wrong did she commit. She just told the truth that she was kiddnapped and kept overnight. What part did she play in the kidnapping???? She was the victim. So how did she shame her Maayka and Sasural. If her in-laws have double standards how is it her fault. The poor girl has been thru enough drama. Now her husband and in-laws are adding to it. What happned to his promise that he will always tbe here for her.I can understand that he is hurt but I hope when he cools down he will realize how his actions have added to her problems.I agree she should go home. because her in-laws are not going to give her any peace.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No I said she is sophisticated so I assumed she HATED public spectacles .But u know wat , she doesnt .Coz if shje had , she wud have selected other options . Two months wait instead of washing dirty laundry in public and shaming her own maayka was infinitely ok and practical . But nope , she chose this . She shamed sasural and maayka bOTH when in reality there was no need . Her Dad showed her the path , by unecessarily flinging himself in jail and she went a step ahead and dug earth to uncover skeletons to PUBLIC when other choices were there ....in the name of HONESTY .And pray , were they honest in court ?her Dad told judge Adarsh had NOTHING to do with this , and she too kept quiet about bros role in affair . NObody said its OK for Krishna to make scenes coz he is uneducated , what I said was its surprsing SHE makes scenes although she is educated . Theres a difference , if u note it .😊
What wrong did she commit. She just told the truth that she was kiddnapped and kept overnight. What part did she play in the kidnapping???? She was the victim. So how did she shame her Maayka and Sasural. If her in-laws have double standards how is it her fault. The poor girl has been thru enough drama. Now her husband and in-laws are adding to it. What happned to his promise that he will always tbe here for her.I can understand that he is hurt but I hope when he cools down he will realize how his actions have added to her problems.I agree she should go home. because her in-laws are not going to give her any peace.
My dear did u read my post properly ? I never said she committed any wrong .In my topic starter post see what i typed ........That getting kidnapped does NOT destroy a womans virtue at all . I also added that please dont let us see her face blackened etc . We dont want to see ghatiya drama. Just send her home , back to her maayka.
I will tell u how she shamed her maayka and sasural . Not due to kidnapping or admitting it . If she had no choice left but to admit to the kidnapping publicly I wud not say that she shamed them .BUT SHE HAD A CHOICE . That let her father remain inside for just 2 months and then let him come out .In this solution two things wud be achieved ...her dad wud be free , her dirty laundry wud NOT be washed in public and both families wud NOT get affected and also her marraige wud be intact .
But she chose to make a public issue . Why ? If she had an option to keep all private , why not do so ? All goals wud be achieved .As it is her father has been in jail for so many weeks due to his own obstinacy , few more weeks wud be what ?Nothing ! Lawyer fees wud be saved , and all family secrets wud be inside only . Today her badnaami will affect even Arushis life ...how cud she be so selfish ? She made everyone victims with this thoughtless action ........her Dad was not stupid to keep quiet !
Also if u see clearly why did the kidnapping take place ? Coz she slapped Angad . The Krishna family did NOT cause the kidnapping although they r termed as BAD . So if she is so bold to slap gundas and say we will go down fighting , THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.......full family suffers.
Her one slap to Angad has really destroyed her life yet she has not come to her senses . That green house in the gully will become badnaam now and life will be hell for her siblings , had she thouht of thar before refusing to wait for 2 months ?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful



Hi Aeryn:

welcome. I am glad you decided to post after being a silent member for a while. it is good to see people who share our views because more often than not we see those that don't. which is fine by me as long as they do not repeatedly and in a very snide and sarcastic manner try to impose those views on us.

I know I come off as a Krishna fan and more importantly a Pratigya critic but if you check out some of my posts when I joined it is apparent I joined with no particular prefernce towards either lead rather just a desire to view a love story.

in the beginning I could see Pratigya's POV but when she married for revenge I could not relate and then inspite of all her coldness and detachment when I saw Krishna's honest efforts at trying to win her love and clear whatever misunderstandings there were (even though she never really came out and told him in so many words why she hated him) my sympathies started building on the krishna sid.e

I have been waiting for weeks for Pratigya to act as a wife and a woman (especially after the truth about the kidnapping came to light) but alas disappointment after disappointment.

I do not fault her for being a loyal daughter or her efforts at being a good SIL to kesar. I do not even fault her for her perception and attitude towards Amma or Shakti (though I think it is more detrimental to her wellbeing) what I do fault is placing both these roles above the primary role of being a wife and a woman.

when one marries, their first commitment is to their spouse, all other relationships with husband's family are an offshoot of this priamry relationship. it is in the sacred commitment we make. we do not take sacred vows to fulfil a motive like revenge. it is disrespectful to god and the institution of marriage.

there has been a ton of debate (ad nauseum in fact) about why she married. irrespective of which position we find palatable about the "why" what is important is the fact that the marriage did happen and if her spouse has tried hard to make it work she should recognize the effort and respond half way.

she has not, she has not indicated any desire to do so in the future - whatever her reasons for this disinterest in her marriage and future - leads me to question her intention to support her father in hiding the truth for the sake of this marriage. Krishna walked away today, hurt upset and dejected. NOW is the time to console him. it is a human moment and emotion (irrespective of whether he is a husband or a friend). when your action or inaction causes someone pain, you make an immediate effort to console, comfort and care. if you dont the moment is lost.

in the sbs seg, they show her go back home. but she does not go back as a wife,s he goes back as a DIL? why her loyalties lie with her husband first.

anyways, that is my POV and rather than pratties I want Pratigya's actions to change my POV. I do not appreciate the krishna bashing in other threads but I realize that for the bashign to stop Krishna must meet their expectations. my POV or convincign argument will be ineffective so I refrain from commenting there and creating unnecessary friction just for the sake of argument.

Hope

I truely love what you said, I always wanted to know if am the only one see this negative side of pratz....Happy to know someone out there seeing it too. I always tell myself, pratz didn't have to get married to get revenge, she could have stay at her parents home and still fight for her rights. She found out that krishna, didn't do any of the stuff she and her family blamed him for........did she or family ,ever say i am sorry to him..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kools, Excellent Post...Althought I could see her slight concern towards Krishna when he started walking out, I don't agree with her glorius statement of 'HAMARE GHAR JAANA HAI'...it look so abnormal...I really don't understand when she makes such statement.
She claims she is the BAHU of the Ghar in front of SS.
She says HAMARE GHAR...
I don't know, if she has suddenly realized that she is MARRIED and she has a HUSBAND whose house is 'APNA' house...
While talking to that Buddhu Shyamji, she said she wants to go alone now and no need of any support from them...I thought...Oh! lady your timing is always wrong. Your were all acting the daughter-first-rest-is-all-waste so far and now you realised you are wife too?
And I would be disappointed in her if she doesn't go back after SS insults her tomorrow...she made so much fuss about that fake Pregancy issue and made baba like a DOG to come behind her. Reason? her ATMA SMMAN...and I would want her to show same Atma Samman tomorrow also...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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when your husband is in pain, you attend to his needs first. mayka victory celebrations can wait.
if you watch him leave, defeated, dejected, alone, and then join mayka family to celebrate while he sheds tears you are comitting a grave error of judgement.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gawker

when your husband is in pain, you attend to his needs first. mayka victory celebrations can wait.

if you watch him leave, defeated, dejected, alone, and then join mayka family to celebrate while he sheds tears you are comitting a grave error of judgement.

I never blame Amma, when she said pratz, is krishna enemy. Her father got off, her duty is done run after your husband, try to talk to him. what kind of parents are they, the didn't even send her after krishna. why is the professor, accompanying her to the in laws ? to show he is a dutiful papa.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: stillhopeful

@ stillhopeful are you married ?



yes shumi, I married very young at 21. have been married for 13 years and have two kids. oh i see😃...that is why your POV is very much different unlike few teens here that too hardly 14 to 15 year old ....those who are working hard after every episode to justify pratigya character...they don't even know what is pratical life is...long way to go for their marriage... i just feel sorry for those kids and sincerly pray for their happy married life😊....my pre-marriage life was like pratigya. I was idealistic and believed that everything was black or white.
then I got married, lost some of my arrogance voluntarily 😆😆 and realized that marriage is predominately shades of grey with a few specks of black or white thrown in to provide moments of stability.

compromise and appreciation of your partners efforts is the name of the game.

if you do not realize the others worth and consideration and only expect them to appreciate your own or stick to your ideals you will sleep daily in a lonely bed with only your ideals to warm your soul. A very lonely existence.

how about you?

Hope
yep me too married at the age of 22 soon after my masters....alhamdulillah i too have two cute school going kids ...my symbol of love😃. i married to a stranger whom my father selected and told me to marry...at the very first sight i don't like him and i told my father i don't want to marry him...but my father tried to convince me...finally i was force to marry him...after marriage when i stepped in to my in laws house yet another big shock...their house is not even one fourth of my maika...( cuz my in laws house is in metropolitan city and my maika is in a small town) on the top of that i had three useless brother in laws and one good soul mother in law...lol just imagine my condition.
but you know what ? the moment i married i stood for my husband i don't even know he is a bad guy or good.cuz i understood that this what my life i have promised in front of god and my relatives that i accepct him as my husband...without expecting any thing i loved my husband and supported him. surprisingly the same love and support i got from my husband too😛...but i was the one who step forward...😊
you know what? some time if there is any conflict between my husband and my father i supported my husband...cuz i can not tolerate or let my husband down in front of my maika. i use to tell to my parents i don't want to go to the place where there is no respect to my husband...even if that is my maika...yaar that doesn't mean that i don't love my parents....i don't respect my parents etc etc...my parents are every thing for me. my parents are my worls cuz i don't have any siblings... my parents shower all their love only to me.
when my husband got canada visa my father don't want to send me to canada...he don't want my husband too go to canada...my father was right cuz i am the only child to my parent. naturally they don't like to send their child to that far...i was confused. i don't know what to do...migrating to canada was my husbands long time dream...he applied for the visa before my marriage...just cuz he married to me he was unable to go...finally i supported my husband and migrated to canada( before migrating to canada two years i was in saudi too ...working as a saudi university lecturer)...yaar in india i was working for southern railways central government job...for my husband sake i resigned my job in india and in saudi as well...now sitting at home jobless😆.....never mind for my husband sake i can lose any thing...in fact it is my pleasure😃

that is why i don't like this pratigya charater...for me her character is very much annoying and weird...she is not a marriage metrial at all.it is my POV no offence😃
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