14th July- ArShi: Ishq leta hai kaise imtehaan.

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Hi there,

Wow! Quite a high voltage scene between ArShi in the elevator and much-needed - both for Armaan and Shilpa. And no ,am not talking about the brilliant acting and electrifying chemistry ( this is why they are 'KaSh')..... I am talking about the eruption of their most underlying fears, anxities , feelings and the pain they are trying to nurse and heal.

Was Shilpa harsh on Armaan? YES. Was it needed? YES. Was Shilpa unreasonable ? Not really. Whatever she told Armaan regarding making fun of Sid was bitterly conveyed but totally in place. As much as we love Armaan, a fault is a fault and he had ended up crossing the line with Siddhanth and he needed to be told that in the face. Shilpa did it. And her anger towards Armaan at that point was not just because of his momentary insensitivity to Sid ..... it was also her own disappointment in him. These past few days , she had begun to conjure an ideal image of Armaan - the man who made her laugh , fought with her but gave her hankies to wipe her tears, gave her weird names but stood up for her - a man who was drawing her towards himself.... and then WHAM! Oh no! He is not that angelic! How can he do that to Sid? That's not the Armaan I am putting into pretty picture frames.... and from here came the venom that she spewed on Armaan yesterday. He had DISAPPOINTED her and in turn broken her line of tenderness towards him.

But why did she bring SR into this? Hmmm.... Natural. In all probability , Shilpa is Riddhima's blood - Riddz is her sister and Sid her brother-in-law . They are her cocoon , her family - perhaps, just perhaps they both are all that she has in the world in the name of family , who she can call her 'own'. For her , as we saw the other day on the whiteboard are an ideal image of " my sis and my bro-in-law" - a picture of togetherness and marital love and bonding that she holds precious. That is why she constantly keeps comparing Armaan's temper , his peripheral insensitivity to the tenderness and beauty that she sees in SR. What she does not know is that Armaan is the nest where SR evolved, flourished and flew away. What she does not realize is that Armaan has no balance while SR are at equilibrium. And all this because Armaan is still finding an emotional foothold.....Because of her instinctive and rather fierce protection for SR, she sees Armaan as a threat to Sid and in turn to SR because of this wicked prank. It's like how you hate the ones who are rude to your Mum-Dad without knowing what the seed was. Instinctive protection.

It is not that Armaan doesn't know that SR love each-other. I mean , who else in the world knows the SR story better than Armaan? He has seen them at their worst , at their best and done all that he could to get them together.... and he did all this only after he himself was sure that Riddhima loved Sid as much as he loved her. Shilpa , of course , doesn't know that. Yet , Armaan needed to hear it from somebody else. Why? Well, it is true that Armaan released Riddhima to Sid long ago..... but he is yet to release himself . And Shilpa showing him the mirror of his own fossilized heart was the BEGINNING.

And then, we come to Armaan. So, Armaan Malik, Shilpa Malhotra is nothing to you, right? Perhaps yes. But at the same time, Shilpa is the only one who gets under Armaan's skin - she is the only one who has the guts to stand up to him , to hell with his seniority - she is the only one who rips apart his happiness exterior and gnaws at the lonely man behind. Armaan had no need to go behind Shilpa raging and ranting at her in the elevator , he has no physical and emotional comfort with Shilpa whom he hardly knows and yet he manhandled her ( no justification for that - men in DMG need to control their tempers and women their lambi zubaans) ....she wanted to leave but more than confronting her about spoiling his and Sid's relationship, he wanted to hear what she was thinking. What was going inside her head? Why Armaan? What was the need? Think it over. And when Shilpa told him exactly what she thought of him , she totally ripped him apart and Armaan could not take it - what does she know of me , my life , my relationship with SR or my past? She thinks am hateful and bitter? Really?........Nobody has spoken like that to Armaan in ages and hurt him like that. Shilpa did it.....

It is good in a way. Angels don't always come with wings. Sometimes they come with sugical scissors and they cut open the wounds that you are hiding instead of nursing and that is beginning of a healing soul surgery. Shilpa is that woman in Armaan's life. Shilpa will perhaps sooner or later find out about the entire SRA angle and even from there , the story can go two ways - either she will see Armaan in a new light or else see him a greater threat to SR. Whatever it is , she has ARRIVED in Armaan's life with thunder , lightening and storms.

Armaan hates Shilpa's guts for disrobing his heart and his pain. Shilpa hates Armaan for treating her like that and for trying to hurt her SR cocoon. And this is a FANTASTIC beginning.

Love and luck always,❤️

GOD bless everyone. 🤗



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Posted: 15 years ago
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I disagree when you say that Shilpa wasn't unreasonable..First off, Shilpa is going around acting like she knows everyone's bio data in Sanjeevani, especially Armaan when she knows JACK about him! Thats called arrogance, and "know it all".. Yes, Armaan did do something wrong with Sid along with JP Jiggy's help , but why is SHILPA bothering about someone else's issue? Yes that person MAY be her Jiju, but ermm she needs to keep her feelings in check!She feels bad for Sid, but doesn't feel bad when she plays pranks on OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, such as Armaan! She doesn't need to give a bhasan..Im sure Armaan has enough maturity to realize himself that he did a wrong thing..

She plays pranks herself...so its alright when she plays a prank? But when someone else plays a prank, regardless of it being right/wrong.its not taken lighty as in Shilpas case -_- WOW! So everyone that plays pranks like Armaan did today should get lectures like this, coming from someone WHO BARELY KNOWS a THING about Armaan? I think not! Shilpa should have been getting lectures wayyy back then, when she entered!

MY POV, no offence intended(:
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Posted: 15 years ago
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As usual I absolutely loved your post Pocs (hope you don't mind me calling you that, the username is a bit lengthy). I am totally fida over your writing style and I was expecting something this good from you only after yesterday's intense and fabulous ArSh scene.
I too made a thread on similar lines here in the morning, but ofcourse you have put everything in so much better way here. Makes so much more sense when you write it. 😳Needless to say exactly what I feel for both of them atm.
thanks for such a lovely write up and analysis.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: anitamalik

I disagree when you say that Shilpa wasn't unreasonable..First off, Shilpa is going around acting like she knows everyone's bio data in Sanjeevani, especially Armaan when she knows JACK about him! Thats called arrogance, and "know it all".. Yes, Armaan did do something wrong with Sid along with JP Jiggy's help , but why is SHILPA bothering about someone else's issue? Yes that person MAY be her Jiju, but ermm she needs to keep her feelings in check!She feels bad for Sid, but doesn't feel bad when she plays pranks on OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, such as Armaan! She doesn't need to give a bhasan..Im sure Armaan has enough maturity to realize himself that he did a wrong thing..

She plays pranks herself...so its alright when she plays a prank? But when someone else plays a prank, regardless of it being right/wrong.its not taken lighty as in Shilpas case -_- WOW! So everyone that plays pranks like Armaan did today should get lectures like this, coming from someone WHO BARELY KNOWS a THING about Armaan? I think not! Shilpa should have been getting lectures wayyy back then, when she entered!

MY POV, no offence intended(:



Anita,

I respect your views.

You are right that Shilpa herself plays pranks on people - true and that is what Armaan confronted her about. That way , yes, Shilpa herself being black cannot call Armaan black. But the issue was personal here - it was about Sid - somebody she adores, respects and possibly is related to. So, when you fight for the ones you love , you are right emotionally..... not ethically. So, that is that.

And what you have said in your post is exactly what i said in my post. SHILPA DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ARMAAN'S PAST.... NOTHING. Whatever happened between her and Armaan was purely instinctive and impulsive.


And nah, i did not get offended.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: prismlight

As usual I absolutely loved your post Pocs (hope you don't mind me calling you that, the username is a bit lengthy). I am totally fida over your writing style and I was expecting something this good from you only after yesterday's intense and fabulous ArSh scene.

I too made a thread on similar lines here in the morning, but ofcourse you have put everything in so much better way here. Makes so much more sense when you write it. 😳Needless to say exactly what I feel for both of them atm.
thanks for such a lovely write up and analysis.



Actually , you should call me Pocu.😆.... it makes me feel wanted.😳....

I am glad that you liked what i wrote. I may not be totally right but i just try to find reasons behind human behaviour - usually we don't have justifications for why we do what we do - just reasons and that is what happened with ArShi yesterday. 😃.... And gimme the link of your thread. I will like to read your thoughts. 😳

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Pocoooo...!! 🤗
Okay, first of all, fabulously articulated, as always. And I agree with most of what you said. Except like Anita, the unreasonable bit. I personally think Shilpa was being unreasonable, and that could be following from your whole cocoon-argument too. That instinctive protectiveness, added to her disappointment with Armaan, making her come to conclusions without giving them much thought. Yes, I absolutely second you when you say that this was needed. Especially for Armaan, and coming from someone he barely knows. At the same time, Shilpa did go a little too far in making a statement on the character as well as intentions of a person she doesn't know anything about. More so because she doesn't know how deep the wounds already are, when she's slitting them open. Instinctive protection can be unreasonable too. Mostly is, in fact.
As for the rest of it, I completely agree. Shilpa's spewing venom, apart from her protectiveness for SR, is coming from the clouding of her lately formed idealised image of Dr. Armaan Mallik. It's just that she hasn't tried to look beyond the surface yet, like you said. Once she begins to do that, she'll know there's far more to it than she could have imagined.
And as far as Armaan goes, yes, this was very important for him. More than anything else, that's because he's been trying to drown his pain within himself. Trying to stow it away in a secluded recess of his heart, instead of confronting it. And burying pain, trying to evade it, can never keep it away from the surface for too long. He's been trying to heal his wounds by covering them up with a happiness exterior, like you so aptly pointed out. But until he heals on the inside, the exterior will keep giving way at the slightest touch. Which is what happened in the lift with Shilpa. And I do think this is a very good beginning for them both, individually as well as together.
What remains to be seen is how this will be handled from here on. Let's see.
LOVE your topic, as usual. 😃
Cheers!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Poco your posts are simply amazing to say the least. I do so agree with you on the comments made about shilpas very harsh words to Armaan today. I agree that she was very angry and didnt like the way he mistreated Sid today but I dont think she had any right to talk about SRs love and that they love each other so much and that Sid has so much love for his wife etc etc. In my opinion I think shilpa should have stuck to the facts regarding the joke played on Sid and had no right to say things to Armaan about him or his feelings. Yes she does not know nothing at this stage so I therefore feel that perhaps she went a little too far. Unfortunately Armaan perhaps needed an outside person so to speak to tell him about SR but she could have done it a little bit more diplomatic. I will give her one thing though that she has a lot of guts to speak to a senior doctor in this manner regardless of the fact that she is very protective of SR especially as Armaan has no idea of the reasons she shields SR like a lion watching her cubs. Perhaps Shilpa should have remembered the saying HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. Yes Armaan and JP and Jiggy went a little too far but Shilpa is no angel either.

Poco great post. Thankyou soooooooooooooo much.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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poco🤗
sorry my reply posts are always short when it comes to u and a few other lovely writers out there.. I am left speechless😳..
love how u intepret the scenes. Even armaan went a bit overboard I feel. Why shd he be angry with shilpa for giving away the truth to sid?? more than feeling sorry for sid he was angered that this girl who has no business between his and sid's relationship trying to butt in.
Actually its really confusing still as to why the cvs made her speak a lot on SR to him. Some of the dialogues were so unwanted.
chalo, DMG ka cvs hain, lets forgive them. 😆
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arrre yaar Poco yeh gaana toh Humaare liye rehne do 🤣🤣
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Originally posted by: nandinidev

Pocoooo...!! 🤗

Okay, first of all, fabulously articulated, as always. And I agree with most of what you said. Except like Anita, the unreasonable bit. I personally think Shilpa was being unreasonable, and that could be following from your whole cocoon-argument too. That instinctive protectiveness, added to her disappointment with Armaan, making her come to conclusions without giving them much thought. Yes, I absolutely second you when you say that this was needed. Especially for Armaan, and coming from someone he barely knows. At the same time, Shilpa did go a little too far in making a statement on the character as well as intentions of a person she doesn't know anything about. More so because she doesn't know how deep the wounds already are, when she's slitting them open. Instinctive protection can be unreasonable too. Mostly is, in fact.

Nandu! 🤗🤗🤗

Long time , babykins!😳😳😳😳😳😳

Yes, Shilpa was being unreasonable because she was NOT THINKING. Whatever she said was impulsive emotion except that reprimanding Armaan over Sid was something that Armaan needed to hear. Instinctive protection is usually unreasonable in the sense of logic and justification because you have a horse-blinder vision there - you only look in the direction of the one you are trying to protect.


As for the rest of it, I completely agree. Shilpa's spewing venom, apart from her protectiveness for SR, is coming from the clouding of her lately formed idealised image of Dr. Armaan Mallik. It's just that she hasn't tried to look beyond the surface yet, like you said. Once she begins to do that, she'll know there's far more to it than she could have imagined.

True. Whatever Shilps told Armaan was from her own POV of what she saw and her SR angle. She doesn't know the person behind Armaan. And when she does, her views will change.
And as far as Armaan goes, yes, this was very important for him. More than anything else, that's because he's been trying to drown his pain within himself. Trying to stow it away in a secluded recess of his heart, instead of confronting it. And burying pain, trying to evade it, can never keep it away from the surface for too long. He's been trying to heal his wounds by covering them up with a happiness exterior, like you so aptly pointed out. But until he heals on the inside, the exterior will keep giving way at the slightest touch. Which is what happened in the lift with Shilpa. And I do think this is a very good beginning for them both, individually as well as together.

Brilliant!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏..... Nikammi, you should be making posts. 😳
What remains to be seen is how this will be handled from here on. Let's see.

Fingers crossed.😳
LOVE your topic, as usual. 😃

Love my topic?😲😲😲😲😲..... Not me? 😔

Cheers!

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