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Posted: 15 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: Laila2009

I agree with your post 110%. There much that I really like in the way you have expressed your words.
Thank you!

I think the first three months did a very good job to show the chemistry. However, the show killed it for me when the raised Simi's age and dropped Abhi's. Just to create controversy the ages were changed. To add, Abhi's character of mature, confident, smart and reassured person, was changed to a love sick puppy who was fearful of losing Simi.

I know, that made no sense at all, not so much that he chased but that he did this in spite of her indifference to their love and pheres in the Mandir. Even in the Mandir, she was paying more attention to her cell than the beautiful expression of his love by doing the pheras and sindoor.

Believe me, in the beginning I loved the chemistry and once in a blue moon it shows up
Exactly what I meant by my title, you caught it, thats awesome, Laila!!

but that's just once in a blue moon.
Like the number of times they showed affection or desire to be with each other, once in a blue moon and only one SR since their marriage!

Most of the time it's Abhi begging for Simi's love and affection and this behavior is so out of line of his character. Plus he's begging for the love a 30 year old woman who is not even meant to be attractive.
Simi on the other hand was changed to a woman who didn't care if she lost Abhi and had to wed Nakul.
This was the turning point for me in my attitude towards the writers, they changed her behavior to make her unlikable- it made no sense whatsoever after the build up in romance between them until then!!!

Suddenly she was preoccuped with taking care of her family. He did SO MUCH for her
I KNOW, I KNOW!! I KNOW!!

and there has NEVER been a single line from the writers where Simi has acknowledged what I Abhi did for her. They gave us one sentence when Simi stabbed Abhi in the back. However, even after that she never apologized for humiliating him.
That was such a heartbreaking scene in the living room in front of her father and family. And salt on the wounds the next day when she forced him to "prove" HIS love yet again in the "electrocution" scene. Was it you who coined that expression??? What of HER love were my thoughts then. She never said sorry.

Exactly! Why did he have to prove his love to her when she was the one who insulted him. I was repulsed by the scene.

She has NEVER thanked him from rescuing her from RB or Nakul. She's not even thankful that she lost her virginity to him and not two potential rapists.
Man, she has NO idea how good she has it, she got Abhi!!

Not in the slightest.

It's sad to take a female character that is well-liked and turn her into a total bitch who is completely inconsiderate of Abhi. Totally agreed. A good female lead is someone whom you would want as a friend. I would NEVER want to have someone like Simi for a friend. Can you image, it would be take, take, take and not a word of thanks for your kindness or for thinking of me.

To add, we have never had Simi ask Abhi, Abhi what did you see in me? No-one saw anything in me, but what did you see in me? Truthfully what I loved about Simi was her inadequacy in terms of her looks and who she feared that because of it she would NEVER find someone to love her. However the writers didn't take any of the traits that we liked about Simi and built upon them. Did she become arrogant after the Nakul marriage offer...that seemed so mean....

The day Nakul showed, Simi was preocuppied with Neetu's disclosure regarding her pregnancy. Even after that she kept her mouth shut regarding the proposal. When she met Abhi in the park the next day she was afraid to see him because she had received proposal and didn't want to ruin it (hello! what's going on here). I didn't like the sudden change in her character. All of a sudden Nakul was ready to marry her and it was evident she was not the least bit bothered. Some people loved the engagement scene; I hated it. Simi showed no signs of appreciation or joy - she was more worried about Nakul catching her. Abhi had to beg her to be happy. She even made a face that looked like she disapproved.

Throughout the whole saga she NEVER once spoke up for her love for Abhi or the fact she was hurting him.

The writers could have done so much with the love story but the producers didn't care and they destroyed the show. I'm hoping and keeping my fingers crossed that they rise to the task and turn this around. I spoke to one of the creative people who was behind the show and this person told me the real truth. Thats so cool that you found this out for all of us here! It took a lot of effort to see if this person would tell me the truth and I was really blessed that this person agreed with me. The person is no longer with the show because of these differences - the age change, the poor development of the romance, the unwillingess to explain WHY a 22 year old would fall in love with a 30 year old woman who is meant to be fat and ugly to others.

I guess I watch the show in need to find that scene; however, I doubt we will EVER find answers to it. As you can see the manner in which the resolved the Simi and Abhi disagreement is a PRIME example of where the writers are headed: Destroy Abhi but make Simi look good at ALL costs. That's not what appeals to anyone. Yes, like watching a train wreck, horrified that he's behaving so uncharacteristically, literally wanted to jump in the computer and say no no Abhi noooooo, no no no Writers your writing sucks!!

I agree!

The only redeeming factor here was watching how Neil apologized with so much love and remorse that it took my breath away to view that scene !!

But WHY did he have to apologize? He's always apologizing to Simi - he was made to look awful to make Simi's actions look good. It was horrible to have to see him once again grovel for Simi's love and approval. She's the one who has him by the balls (Sorry but that's what it looks like). Neil Bhatt did a good job but the scene itself was the worst way this conflict between them could have been resolved.

Thanks for sharing; I think we agree a lot more than we realized in the beginning😃.
Yes, cool.....above everything you and I and most of us here love the potential of this story and with the talent of all the members ideas here, the writers don't have to work so hard to turn it back on track...:-)

I sincerely doubt it. After this Thursday's episode and the final reduction of Abhi to a stark raving lunatic, there is NO hope.

Again we are not allowed to use such use of words or phrases which is not appropriate for the forum You can;s say she has him by the ba***

Please refrain from using such phrases . This topic is closed upon member;s request and would reopen after it is edited removing bad words.

KB Dev Team..

Edited by ramas - 15 years ago

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 15 years ago

#32

I agree with your post 110%. There much that I really like in the way you have expressed your words.
Thank you!

I think the first three months did a very good job to show the chemistry. However, the show killed it for me when the raised Simi's age and dropped Abhi's. Just to create controversy the ages were changed. To add, Abhi's character of mature, confident, smart and reassured person, was changed to a love sick puppy who was fearful of losing Simi.

I know, that made no sense at all, not so much that he chased but that he did this in spite of her indifference to their love and pheres in the Mandir. Even in the Mandir, she was paying more attention to her cell than the beautiful expression of his love by doing the pheras and sindoor.

Believe me, in the beginning I loved the chemistry and once in a blue moon it shows up
Exactly what I meant by my title, you caught it, thats awesome, Laila!!

but that's just once in a blue moon.
Like the number of times they showed affection or desire to be with each other, once in a blue moon and only one SR since their marriage!

Most of the time it's Abhi begging for Simi's love and affection and this behavior is so out of line of his character. Plus he's begging for the love a 30 year old woman who is not even meant to be attractive.
Simi on the other hand was changed to a woman who didn't care if she lost Abhi and had to wed Nakul.
This was the turning point for me in my attitude towards the writers, they changed her behavior to make her unlikable- it made no sense whatsoever after the build up in romance between them until then!!!

Suddenly she was preoccuped with taking care of her family. He did SO MUCH for her
I KNOW, I KNOW!! I KNOW!!

and there has NEVER been a single line from the writers where Simi has acknowledged what I Abhi did for her. They gave us one sentence when Simi stabbed Abhi in the back. However, even after that she never apologized for humiliating him.
That was such a heartbreaking scene in the living room in front of her father and family. And salt on the wounds the next day when she forced him to "prove" HIS love yet again in the "electrocution" scene. Was it you who coined that expression??? What of HER love were my thoughts then. She never said sorry.

Exactly! Why did he have to prove his love to her when she was the one who insulted him. I was repulsed by the scene.

She has NEVER thanked him from rescuing her from RB or Nakul. She's not even thankful that she lost her virginity to him and not two potential rapists.
Man, she has NO idea how good she has it, she got Abhi!!

Not in the slightest.

It's sad to take a female character that is well-liked and turn her into a total bitch who is completely inconsiderate of Abhi. Totally agreed. A good female lead is someone whom you would want as a friend. I would NEVER want to have someone like Simi for a friend. Can you image, it would be take, take, take and not a word of thanks for your kindness or for thinking of me.

To add, we have never had Simi ask Abhi, Abhi what did you see in me? No-one saw anything in me, but what did you see in me? Truthfully what I loved about Simi was her inadequacy in terms of her looks and who she feared that because of it she would NEVER find someone to love her. However the writers didn't take any of the traits that we liked about Simi and built upon them. Did she become arrogant after the Nakul marriage offer...that seemed so mean....

The day Nakul showed, Simi was preocuppied with Neetu's disclosure regarding her pregnancy. Even after that she kept her mouth shut regarding the proposal. When she met Abhi in the park the next day she was afraid to see him because she had received proposal and didn't want to ruin it (hello! what's going on here). I didn't like the sudden change in her character. All of a sudden Nakul was ready to marry her and it was evident she was not the least bit bothered.

AbhisBlueMoon: Yes, I found those scenes really disturbing. It made no sense that she insisted on going through with Nakul's engagement publicly and took gifts from Daddiji and also insulted both Abhi and his Mom when they came to fix the dates for the marriage. I thought Abhi should have given her a piece of his mind for insulting his Mother like that and she did this despite her father's support of Abhi.

LAILA: Yes, she was beyond belief in these scenes. Her silence was deplorable. She never once said a word to her father who has always been there for her. I do not know why the audience would find anything likable in her character after watching these scenes. She insulted Anusha over and over again when she failed to respect the roka she brought to her house. Here was a woman welcoming her into her home - a 30 year old woman for her 22 year old son. What was more stressful was her BLATANT lie to her face when she accepted the engagement of Nakul and didn't have guts to tell Anusha. Very rude and disrespectful. She even put the poor woman's son in danger and this woman still accepts her 😲

Some people loved the engagement scene; ABhisBlueMoon: they did?? I loved watching Abhi and hated Simi's reactions, the writers missed a great opportunity here too.

LAILA: YES, Go back to the forum during this time period - I wil send you the links if you like and you will see that people LOVED the engagement scene and thought it was very romantic. It was only after I pointed out what I thought of the scene that members spoke out and agreed that she was VERY unappreciative of her engagement ring. Then, of course, she had Abhi burn it. Poor guy sold his jeep for her and she not ONCE acknowledged it on the show. Once again, this is clearly a reflection of the people who have written the show.

I hated it. Simi showed no signs of appreciation or joy - she was more worried about Nakul catching her. Abhi had to beg her to be happy. She even made a face that looked like she disapproved. Throughout the whole saga she NEVER once spoke up for her love for Abhi or the fact she was hurting him.

ABhisBlueMoon: Yes there was no love nor pleasure shown there at all. I felt so frustrated seeing that scene. All the sacrifice in getting the ring was wasted on an unappreciative girl- it seemed the writers and directors were floundering and didn't know how to write this scene. Even the wording was silly, not the moment we were looking forward to ...thats the problem, there are buildups and they lead nowhere, bait and switch constantly!

LAILA: Please do not remind me. The dialogue was HORRIBLE in that scene. I cringed at some of the lines delievered. Just the week before there was wonderful scene of the two of them in the park and I had hoped that they would have finally given us back Simi-Abhi chemistry but a week later we were back to the desperate Abhi chasing after an appreciative Simi saga.

The writers could have done so much with the love story but the producers didn't care and they destroyed the show. I'm hoping and keeping my fingers crossed that they rise to the task and turn this around. I spoke to one of the creative people who was behind the show and this person told me the real truth. Thats so cool that you found this out for all of us here! It took a lot of effort to see if this person would tell me the truth and I was really blessed that this person agreed with me. The person is no longer with the show because of these differences - the age change, the poor development of the romance, the unwillingess to explain WHY a 22 year old would fall in love with a 30 year old woman who is meant to be fat and ugly to others.

I guess I watch the show in need to find that scene; however, I doubt we will EVER find answers to it. As you can see the manner in which the resolved the Simi and Abhi disagreement is a PRIME example of where the writers are headed: Destroy Abhi but make Simi look good at ALL costs. That's not what appeals to anyone. Yes, like watching a train wreck, horrified that he's behaving so uncharacteristically, literally wanted to jump in the computer and say no no Abhi noooooo, no no no Writers your writing sucks!!

I agree!

The only redeeming factor here was watching how Neil apologized with so much love and remorse that it took my breath away to view that scene !!

But WHY did he have to apologize? He's always apologizing to Simi - he was made to look awful to make Simi's actions look good. It was horrible to have to see him once again grovel for Simi's love and approval. She's the one who has him by the balls (Sorry but that's what it looks like). Neil Bhatt did a good job but the scene itself was the worst way this conflict between them could have been resolved.
ABhisBlueMoon: He obviously should not have had to apologize. I sometimes wonder how Neil Bhatt copes with so much negativity for so many months the depressing accusations, lack of love and appreciation he gets as Abhi. Abhi would have had a breakdown by now, I felt I was having one too I was so affected and I read the frustrated posts here from others who felt the same, that was just ahead of the SR when finally the writers gave us some happy scenes that were long overdue after everyone in the Forum sent petitions and called. I feel sorry for the character of Abhi and for Neil as an actor ( Smriti too). After all, he must feel these emotions to express them so well.

LAILA: Completely AGREE with you!!! I am sure Neil B must wonder about the lines in the show but most actors have very little say so with regards to their characters. We don't know who is really responsible for this mess. However, I spoke with one of the actors on the show and he said that there are certain people who say what goes and there is NOTHING that can be done. From what I gather there are two sets of producers - ZeeTV and Sunshine Productions itself. The ultimate powers that be is Zeetv. If the ratings are not up, the advertisers don't come, so sometimes qualitiy is sacrificed for ratings and that is sadly what happened with KB.

Thanks for sharing; I think we agree a lot more than we realized in the beginning😃.
Yes, cool.....above everything you and I and most of us here love the potential of this story and with the talent of all the members ideas here, the writers don't have to work so hard to turn it back on track...:-)

I sincerely doubt it. After this Thursday's episode and the final reduction of Abhi to a stark raving lunatic, there is NO hope.

ABhisBlueMoon: Lol, Laila, I hope you're wrong....but I have a sinking feeling.....

LAILA: Expect the worse; if something good happens, it will bring a smile to your face. It's kind of like reverse psychology.

Take care, and once again, I have LOVED this exchange. It is rare to find someone who holds such similar views to me on this forum and is not afraid to express them. I am so glad you do not agree with me for the sake of avoiding an arguement but because you sincerely feel this way.

Laila😃

Edited by Laila2009 - 15 years ago

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