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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: asdj

i think this is the precursor to mili and nakul track.

it was wrong of nakul to acccuse mili....and mili giving him a slap was justified.

i would like to see mili and nakul getting together
...i think they will look good. despite nakuls evil ways i think his character can be changed for the better and mili is the one to do that.
mili is strong and will be able to stand upto nakul and that dadi of his too.
i am eagerly waiting to see their track. i do not watch carol bagh but if this 2 get together i will .
nakul reminds me of akashdeep saigal.

Well we rooted for Nakul and Neetu together but hmm this will be interesting but only iof the rape molestation track can be skipped and we get directly to fixing nakul's anger and melting it done by milli

O yes Akashdeep saigal he was brillian in Kuch Iss tara yeah somewhere close to his acting
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SValeCalGal

The western definition of "secularism" is when the State and public policies take precedence over religious considerations. In other words, in the West, there is a separation of church and state. But most Indians, including their leaders, have their own self-serving bizarre definitions. One often cited goes like this: "equal treatment of all the religions by the State." Is that a desirable goal? If it is then how can any State achieve such a goal?
In the Indian context, I suppose the easiest way for the State to treat all religions "equally" would be to "get into" every religion equally and if need be, somehow proclaim all religions are one and a part of Hinduism -- therefore making everyone in India a Hindu. This is precisely what is happening in India. Since everyone is a Hindu, the leadership expects a response in kind. It usually shows in an intellectually flawed population which has stamped itself with a bogus notion echoed in the buzzword called sameness. This is an expression erroneously viewed as synonymous with equality.
OK ... so I've been touting and spewing falsehoods! Indeed, India is not a 'secular' country!! And why should the word be defined by 'Western' standards??!! For CRYIN' out loud, 'Secular' is a word in the 'English' language!!! English has its origins in the West!!! If that word is used, then adherence to its concept is unquestionable!!
SaNiCo - What I have read in your link is HORRIFYING!!!! The Indian 'Supreme Court' comes off as only SUPREMELY uninformed, unenlightened, and STUPID!!! The constitution needs to be rewritten in its entirety!!! I cannot believe that 'Hindus' are given such free rein even while the definition of the term is nebulous beyond belief!! Why did I think Nehru ought to have known better than to have been responsible for this travesty?!!
Third Standpoint: Addressing the often asked insidious philosophic question as to what is the "ultimate goal of humanity," the Court answered, "It is release and freedom from the unceasing cycle of births and rebirths'."
This is sufficient to show that the Indian S.C. is made up of people incapable of even a shred of critical thought!! And we complain that the US Supreme Court is wanting in certain respects!
No wonder the majority tyrannize the minorities! They have the full sanction of the state!!! That's SCARY!!!
I am now even more offended by that Hanuman monstrosity that used to be shown at the start of KB!!! I always wondered about how the State could have allowed such an open violation of their professed 'secularism'!!! There is no organization such as the NAACP in India that could even challenge the constitution??!!
I think there is all of 1 person on the KB 'production' team who is a non-Hindu ... Wow!!
I vote (and reiterate - per my first discussion about this on 'Debate Mansion') for a real clamp down on religious reference of any kind on TV!
Teachings such as peaceful co-existence, high morals, high ethical values, and respect for fellow humans are integral to any true religion.
Hmmm ... no wonder there IS no 'true religion'! This fellow is as naive as naive goes! He ought to read up on some of the 'fundamental' tenets of ANY religion only to find strife fully sanctioned! Here's one place where I disagree vehemently with the author!



Hey D... As I read and perceive this entire sentence the author is using this entire sentence (in context) trying to resolve the mystery surrounding the Article 25 of the constitution. Nowhere the author is describing (true religion) or even naming any religion.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey D... As I read and perceive this entire sentence the author is using this entire sentence (in context)
Resolving mystery may be well and good, but the author here is proffering his own views and the antecedent material sufficiently defines a 'true religion' from his perspective. What I am arguing is that given his definition, one can safely say that a 'true religion' does not exist!! Even today, there is mutual hatred between peoples of different 'faiths' (finely nuanced when it comes to Protestant/Catholic, Sunni/Shia, High Caste/Low Caste) ... and violence is fully sanctioned in scripture (Jainism/Buddhism excepted in principle, not practice)!! It's rather amusing that the author also asserts that 'high morals' and 'high ethics' are integral to true religions. Where is 'high morality/ethics' defined?!! So as to be universally acceptable??!! I posit, nowhere!
There's just been a discussion on another thread about morality preached and practiced by the Sethis and the Dagars! Neither side is innocent!
He then goes on to this: 'Is there such a religion that violates the norms of decent human morality? If indeed there is any such religion, one would think the framers of the Indian Constitution would have alerted us or perhaps would have "banned" that particular immoral religion.'
I'd say, yes, Hinduism preaches and practices a 'caste system' ... In Islam there are divisions; in Christianity there are divisions ...To me, all are not in keeping with decent human morality ...
BTW SaNiCo, this has piqued my interest and I have downloaded a version of the Indian Constitution (which does not extend to Articles 352 onwards to which the author makes reference) to peruse on my own and evaluate the author's intent (sorry, but a closer examination of his name made me wonder if he has an axe to grind ... the word 'Hindu' appears but twice in the entire text of the Constitution and that too under Article 25. Its use there does not exclude any other religion or make Hinduism a state religion!) ... I will also re-evaluate the stuff he purports came out of the Indian Supreme Court.
In any event, such showings off of religion on KB remain repulsive ...
Edited by SValeCalGal - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey D. Would love to hear you take on it and the extended articles I am emailing them to you so you will have the entire constitution. Which BTW you won't find anywhere else.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Which BTW you won't find anywhere else.
Not true - I have a complete copy and am just going through the first of two very detailed exegeses on the Indian Constitution and Secularism ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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.. So, why was there the need to go to the Gurudvara after the Chowki??!! What? Were only human ears shattered from all the singin' and dancin'?! Matarani and her various consorts and minions did not hear much eh?! I mean ... now we've got to go to another house of worship?! Why have we left out a Muslim mosque, a Christian church, a Buddhist monastery, a Jain temple, a Zoroastrian fire-temple, a Jewish Synagogue ... just in case the gods are visiting one of those places instead ... listening to that set of devotees? Of course, we have time on our hands ... nothing else needs taking care of so let's all troop out in toto .

woman..u want us to have a whole series of pilgrimage episodes now...please stop giving them ideas..i'm already sorta off..ish le chocolat truffle maintenant...but that's 'coz there are other fish to fry elsewhere..not that i've given up on him ..mind!!
Gods , i think, these days wear ear-plugs...or are busy on there Ipods...hey all those newfinagledthingjiggs that M'sieur Jobs produces by the truckloads...are bound to attract some heavenly curiosity...that or the phone numbers to heaven are supplied by Bharat Sanchar Nigam..in which case..the std response wud be..."iss beech ki sabhi line..y vyast hain...krupaya thodi der baad try karen...or aap kataar mein hain...krupaya prateeksha keejiye..(with no ideas of grandeur to the by now hyperexcited Qataaris...sorry guys...just a homonym..and don't go crazy on the homo bit either...there is a nym at the end of that!!)..haan so..where was i??yea..at the end of a 3 hour long wait...which the medium..ly devout would then give up for other less devout pursuits...the line would get disconnected..in true desi style!!!..and if u redial..the cycle shall go on...
isn't constancy sometimes so very refreshing!!!
as 4 he rest...abhi is made at wifey...no probs..main hoon na!!
hussies in KB...arre waah..now there is some action..waitin 4 the equal and opposite reaxn..
abhi change shirts...on screen...wud they...really now...wud they??? oh wait...there's the puls-ox machine!!
dancing doll moll..meets the chief deny..er...yeah how will that meetin work???hi st.peter..nice to meet you..i'm sorry i have no idea who you are!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: femmedivine

.. So, why was there the need to go to the Gurudvara after the Chowki??!! What? Were only human ears shattered from all the singin' and dancin'?! Matarani and her various consorts and minions did not hear much eh?! I mean ... now we've got to go to another house of worship?! Why have we left out a Muslim mosque, a Christian church, a Buddhist monastery, a Jain temple, a Zoroastrian fire-temple, a Jewish Synagogue ... just in case the gods are visiting one of those places instead ... listening to that set of devotees? Of course, we have time on our hands ... nothing else needs taking care of so let's all troop out in toto .

woman..u want us to have a whole series of pilgrimage episodes now...please stop giving them ideas..i'm already sorta off..ish le chocolat truffle maintenant...but that's 'coz there are other fish to fry elsewhere..not that i've given up on him ..mind!!
Gods , i think, these days wear ear-plugs...or are busy on there Ipods...hey all those newfinagledthingjiggs that M'sieur Jobs produces by the truckloads...are bound to attract some heavenly curiosity...that or the phone numbers to heaven are supplied by Bharat Sanchar Nigam..in which case..the std response wud be..."iss beech ki sabhi line..y vyast hain...krupaya thodi der baad try karen...or aap kataar mein hain...krupaya prateeksha keejiye..(with no ideas of grandeur to the by now hyperexcited Qataaris...sorry guys...just a homonym..and don't go crazy on the homo bit either...there is a nym at the end of that!!)..haan so..where was i??yea..at the end of a 3 hour long wait...which the medium..ly devout would then give up for other less devout pursuits...the line would get disconnected..in true desi style!!!..and if u redial..the cycle shall go on...
isn't constancy sometimes so very refreshing!!!
as 4 he rest...abhi is made at wifey...no probs..main hoon na!!
hussies in KB...arre waah..now there is some action..waitin 4 the equal and opposite reaxn..
abhi change shirts...on screen...wud they...really now...wud they??? oh wait...there's the puls-ox machine!!
dancing doll moll..meets the chief deny..er...yeah how will that meetin work???hi st.peter..nice to meet you..i'm sorry i have no idea who you are!!



n we go back to a question i asked u earlier tdy............ wot've u been smokin tdy woman......... quik gimme a puff......... i need it tdy 😆 😉

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Posted: 15 years ago
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n we go back to a question i asked u earlier tdy............ wot've u been smokin tdy woman......... quik gimme a puff......... i need it tdy 😆 😉
My very own goofballs!! If I wasn't fighting a headache, I'd sit here and respond ... but the tryst with my pillow awaits and I will take care of this tomorrow ...
But before I run off - it's coming thru loud & clear ... the choc. truffle while still not free, is available ... he's out of yer clutches!! Hah!!!
Besides, he ain't too pleased with wifey right now ...

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