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Posted: 15 years ago
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NO NO NO sushma has taken completely wrong decision of giving her baby to other parents and telling her parents that she lost her baby in delivery .
First of all sushma herself is not interested in studying and growing her baby that is why she married so early with that fraudulent person,jyoti is also in similar situation as sushma is in fact she is more tensed than sushma that her name has been spoiled and the baby she is carrying is not pankaj's child so in this situation what she should do than ???????sushma only had created problems for jyoti be it that she married brij or now she is giving her baby to some other person .
And if sushma did'nt want to tell her parents about the adoption than why the hell she told to jyoti?????? if padma will come to about these than she will think that jyoti purposely not informed the family members about this and she was also involved in this adoption too .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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well, i don't think the problem is still yet solved. i have a strong feeling that later on jyoti will again try 2 convince sushi 2 keep the baby.the way she was praying 2 god was like she won't give up at all. she'll try again later
i think nobody can understand sushma n her guilt (i mean sharma family). sushi has been living with the guilt of ruining her life & relationships 4 a monster like brij n spending a night with sum1 else bcoz of brij's fake illness😔 she's sufferred a lot n i sympathise her condition. she's carrying a baby in her belly which she wanted 2 abort long time ago as she didn't want brij's dirty blood in her kid but she wasn't allowed by the sharma family😔 nobody can understand her situation n feelings. not even jyoti, jyoti can sympathesize her but can't go thru the depth of sushi's feelings😔 the main reason 4 sushi giving away her child is 2 give her kid a secure future, a gud understanding family not like sharma family, n most imp. gud parents not a father like brij or a mother like herself. sushi wants 2 save her kid from the questions that will haunt her kid once he/she comes in this world. her reasonings behind giving her child away is valid n i respect her decision. & i don't want jyoti 2 convince her 2 keep the baby....
even if sushi is independent & doing a job, she still wont' b able 2 save her kid from the world's rediculous questions abt brij, sushi or sharma family...🥺
i've vote right decision. bcoz i don't think the sharma family will accept her decision or will b able 2 understand her reasons 4 taking such a big step. especially, dadi won't allow this at all! mayb poonam might understand but... & even if they do at first but later on try 2 get out the secret of who r the people 2 whom sushi is giving her child away, then what in that case? i don't think sushi will b able 2 handle the pressure of the sharma family questioning her abt it...this will only make sushi feel even more guilty of what she's done😔😭🥺
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Whatever be the reason, its ultimately Jyoti who will be blamed. Its so dumb, when she decided to keep this as a secret from her parents why the hell tell Jyoti. Arent her family as excited about the baby as Jyoti is????? I can see it that for sure one day , Sushma will blurt out her baby aint dead and then its easy for Sushma to give her reasoning. All will empathize with her but end of the day , Padma & co will never forgive Jyoti for hiding the truth.
She might have told the truth to avoid going to school n stuff but WHY JYOTI is my question?
I also slightly contradict with the idea of adpot out. Its good but dosent she have guts to raise her own kid. Its not like she has lost her legs and hands and dependent on someone. She will eventually work, all go through a struggle in life just that the taste of each is different.
She could study, take tutions at home and with that money give her kid atleast still 3 yrs the basic needs. Its not that all babies will grow only if they use pediatric formuals and huggies n snuggies. They are many kids in India who without that grow pretty fine. If everyone finds easy ways to tackle like Sushma then god only save. She has the boldness unlike Jyoti to call a spade SPADE!! Then why the heck are they making her weak enough to think she cannot give a secure future to her baby.
Frankly speaking, if that is the case every person in the slum has to adpot out their kids. We all see how people below the poverty line in India are sending their kids to school and educating them. I personally know of widow who used to make papads and sell - she made sure her daughter got the best of facilities she could give, the girl is currently working as big shot in a very famous company.
There are so many single mothers in this world who despite the troubles the face bring up the kids. Why cant the CVs potray Sushma to be one of them???????????
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: wejay

I also slightly contradict with the idea of adpot out. Its good but dosent she have guts to raise her own kid. Its not like she has lost her legs and hands and dependent on someone. She will eventually work, all go through a struggle in life just that the taste of each is different.
She could study, take tutions at home and with that money give her kid atleast still 3 yrs the basic needs. Its not that all babies will grow only if they use pediatric formuals and huggies n snuggies. They are many kids in India who without that grow pretty fine. If everyone finds easy ways to tackle like Sushma then god only save. She has the boldness unlike Jyoti to call a spade SPADE!! Then why the heck are they making her weak enough to think she cannot give a secure future to her baby.
Frankly speaking, if that is the case every person in the slum has to adpot out their kids. We all see how people below the poverty line in India are sending their kids to school and educating them. I personally know of widow who used to make papads and sell - she made sure her daughter got the best of facilities she could give, the girl is currently working as big shot in a very famous company.
There are so many single mothers in this world who despite the troubles the face bring up the kids. Why cant the CVs potray Sushma to be one of them???????????


Wejay

This last point I disagree w/ strongly. I'm a dad, not a mom, but trust me - it's tough enough for a married couple to raise a kid - whether it's checking out his homework, preparing him from school, getting him back, seeing to it what he does while also doing one's other work, be it cooking, paying the bills, laundry, taking the kid out to play or other activities, et al. It's particularly tougher in modern, 2 working-parent families. So double the effort when it comes to just one

In this case, Sushma would have to juggle 3 things - studying, working and looking after her kid. As a result, there would be a high probability of her not being able to do any of those things well. If the kid falls sick, she'd have to take time off school or work. If she can't do her studies properly as a result, she won't be able to pay her kid's school bills, let alone other things. And if she puts too much time @ work or study, the kid will get ignored. In fact, at this stage, even if a reformed Brij is back and eliminates her need to work (which he won't - how much will he make on his manual labor job - certainly not anywhere near enough to send their kid to a decent school, so even Sushma would have to work), Sushma would still have to split her time b/w kid and her own school. And you are suggesting she give tuitions. What would she pay attention to - her kid, her students or her own studies?

No, given everything she has gone thru, I thoroughly admire her decision to adopt out her kid. She's had the opportunity to meet w/ Sarika & her hubby enough times, and see what sort of an environment they would provide her kid. Let's look @ this from her kid's point of view. With one family, it would have a fairly well off parents who would be able to give it a comprehensive care, education and meet all its needs. With its own parents, it would have a dad who's barely making anything, a mom who's still in school, a grandpa in a wheelchair, an equally worthless grandma & great-grandma, an uncle & aunt (Deepu & Poonam) who are likely to resent it since it would compete w/ its cousin for limited family resources, and yet another aunt who's totally stectched out. How is that a good environment for it? Jyoti's stupid 'mein hoon na's deserve to be totally ignored.

Look @ it another way - had Brij not been an alcoholic, but had been working jobs like this during his marriage, and Sushma doing her studies, do you think they'd in their right mind have planned to have kids? Most married couples generally plan to have it after they've reached a certain stable point - be it a good paying job, or something like that. Just b'cos slum-dwellers have kids doesn't imply that they make the best decisions. So while I'm against Brij & Sushma re-uniting, let's say they did, then too, Sushma would do well to keep her promise to Sarika. In fact, she should in such a case tell Brij that this is her decision, and that her accepting his offer is conditional on his accepting this agreement she's had.

No, ideally, this argument of a woman being 'strong' and raising a kid all by herself is something valid for women who lose their hubbies after their children are born, and have not been adopted out, like if the spouse dies in an accident. If a woman loses her hubby before the kid's even born, then adoption makes sense, unless they are from a family like the Vashisths, where you have a supportive Jeth & Bhabi to help support all the kids. I mean, MN&G did a good job supporting Bhairavi and raising Uday & Minal along w/ Pankaj & Pratik. That sort of an environment is the only one where it makes sense.


In fact, I disagree w/ Jyoti keeping the kid and raising it herself: she should have aborted when she first knew, or if she didn't want to do it due to future complications in future pregnancies, at least plan something similar to Sushma (although Sushma discovered hers by accident). Of course, if she decides to marry Kabir and they agree to keep it and have subsequent kids, that changes everything. Or even if Jyoti decides to meet Pankaj half way and decides to marry Kabir, but give Pankaj's baby back to Pankaj & Neelam.

Go ahead w/ your plans, Sushma, but do consider telling your parents the truth after the fact - after you've given it away.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vrisha

Wejay

This last point I disagree w/ strongly. I'm a dad, not a mom, but trust me - it's tough enough for a married couple to raise a kid - whether it's checking out his homework, preparing him from school, getting him back, seeing to it what he does while also doing one's other work, be it cooking, paying the bills, laundry, taking the kid out to play or other activities, et al. It's particularly tougher in modern, 2 working-parent families. So double the effort when it comes to just one

In this case, Sushma would have to juggle 3 things - studying, working and looking after her kid. As a result, there would be a high probability of her not being able to do any of those things well. If the kid falls sick, she'd have to take time off school or work. If she can't do her studies properly as a result, she won't be able to pay her kid's school bills, let alone other things. And if she puts too much time @ work or study, the kid will get ignored. In fact, at this stage, even if a reformed Brij is back and eliminates her need to work (which he won't - how much will he make on his manual labor job - certainly not anywhere near enough to send their kid to a decent school, so even Sushma would have to work), Sushma would still have to split her time b/w kid and her own school. And you are suggesting she give tuitions. What would she pay attention to - her kid, her students or her own studies?

No, given everything she has gone thru, I thoroughly admire her decision to adopt out her kid. She's had the opportunity to meet w/ Sarika & her hubby enough times, and see what sort of an environment they would provide her kid. Let's look @ this from her kid's point of view. With one family, it would have a fairly well off parents who would be able to give it a comprehensive care, education and meet all its needs. With its own parents, it would have a dad who's barely making anything, a mom who's still in school, a grandpa in a wheelchair, an equally worthless grandma & great-grandma, an uncle & aunt (Deepu & Poonam) who are likely to resent it since it would compete w/ its cousin for limited family resources, and yet another aunt who's totally stectched out. How is that a good environment for it? Jyoti's stupid 'mein hoon na's deserve to be totally ignored.

Look @ it another way - had Brij not been an alcoholic, but had been working jobs like this during his marriage, and Sushma doing her studies, do you think they'd in their right mind have planned to have kids? Most married couples generally plan to have it after they've reached a certain stable point - be it a good paying job, or something like that. Just b'cos slum-dwellers have kids doesn't imply that they make the best decisions. So while I'm against Brij & Sushma re-uniting, let's say they did, then too, Sushma would do well to keep her promise to Sarika. In fact, she should in such a case tell Brij that this is her decision, and that her accepting his offer is conditional on his accepting this agreement she's had.

No, ideally, this argument of a woman being 'strong' and raising a kid all by herself is something valid for women who lose their hubbies after their children are born, and have not been adopted out, like if the spouse dies in an accident. If a woman loses her hubby before the kid's even born, then adoption makes sense, unless they are from a family like the Vashisths, where you have a supportive Jeth & Bhabi to help support all the kids. I mean, MN&G did a good job supporting Bhairavi and raising Uday & Minal along w/ Pankaj & Pratik. That sort of an environment is the only one where it makes sense.


In fact, I disagree w/ Jyoti keeping the kid and raising it herself: she should have aborted when she first knew, or if she didn't want to do it due to future complications in future pregnancies, at least plan something similar to Sushma (although Sushma discovered hers by accident). Of course, if she decides to marry Kabir and they agree to keep it and have subsequent kids, that changes everything. Or even if Jyoti decides to meet Pankaj half way and decides to marry Kabir, but give Pankaj's baby back to Pankaj & Neelam.

Go ahead w/ your plans, Sushma, but do consider telling your parents the truth after the fact - after you've given it away.

Sorry Vrisha, But here I have to disagree w/ your POV. As I previously stated too, everyone has struggle in life. Who doesn't have? And frankly speaking what Sushma's kid so called struggle would be nothing before w.r.t to what other kids face at the same age. I can quote examples but that would only lengthen the reply. Also, it kind of amuses me when you say it's tougher in Modern world. According to me the struggle our grandparents faced when compared to us is more for the first fact that each family then had six to nine kids and one breadwinner. Here the talk is of handling a single kid and looking after the welfare of the child. Agreed the world is more ruthless and competitive but it was also the same then and they did struggle. There is many ways of commuting now (Only some of the ways are expensive), ease of cooking, paying bills is not a big thing - its once a month and everything has a due date, homework? It's a not huge to monitor a single kid's education for that matter when he is still a going to be toddler until Sushma finishes her studies. She in fact can do her bachelors and finish the 3-yr degree course and by then the kid would just turn three! These days with a bachelors degree getting a decent job is not tough - they are certain jobs in India which also encourage women to work from home. It's not like they aren't well paid- they are decently paid to carry out the family. With Padma by her side, she wouldn't even have to worry so much about taking care of her kid when going to college for we all know how Padma dotes on her daughter except when having cat fights with Poonam. The family may not be supportive and modern but in the case of Sushma, she does have the main people by her side. KK is ever supportive of education/career in spite of the resentment from rest others, Padma will side anything what her daughter wants for she is very selfish and thinks better for her kids, Dadi also likes Sushma though she is a bit fussy on traditional values and stuff which now people don't give a thing too. Since she isn't like Jyoti and stands up almost before everyone, she can also give a show down to Poonam or Deepu if they act smart and for Jyoti's "main hoon na" statement - its right to ignore that and Sushma earning to be independent.

The rest lies in something called as "It's all in the mind". For me, what she is facing is nothing huge as it is being portrayed! The basic fact is that it's always being a struggle for existence in this world. All that she needs to do is give time to the kid and her studies - parallel to her earning some money currently to keep other's mouth shut and get the feeling of being independent, which is not impossible or huge! There are many in fact thousands in today's era who study and earn in India today and also have kids. It's not rare any more. It's tough but nothing like she will never be able to do it. If you talking of satisfaction, what she will be feeling is no different to any other parent. Every parent today wants the best for their kid - nothing wrong but not many are satisfied by what they provide to their kids. So what if Sushma will also feel that, everyone does!!!

And Ya! I never mentioned that slum dwellers make the best decision; I said they do everything to educate their kids. And your statement (nothing offensive) sounded as if you think rest other parents make their best decision. None do! All compromise somewhere or the other in their decision's too. IMHO this is a better realistic decision.

Edited by wejay - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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well, mayb if jyoti regains her senses then she tells sushi not 2 give away her baby then sushi will get emotional n drop her idea n go back 2 brij... what a fantastic track!😡

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Posted: 15 years ago
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On the contrary, if Jyoti loses her fetus, Sushma can point this out to her parents and say - see, I was right - even Jyoti-didi's baby can't survive the environment in this house, so the decision I made is the right one.

I want Sushma to follow through w/ her decision - f🤬 Brij, Kabir, Dadi, KK.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7uVZRASljs[/YOUTUBE]
So Sushma met Brij @ the behest of a struggling Jyoti, and heard him out. Ok, so Brij said some of the right things, including telling her not to come back to him, but stay put where she is.

But that leaves the question of how is it in that baby's best interests that Sushma keep it just b'cos Brij is on the mend? That kid won't be seeing or knowing its dad, if Brij is on the field working. Ok, so it won't exactly be called illegitimate, but it'll still be living in a crowded, stuffed household. There is no way Brij or Sushi are going to be able to support it, and it's unfair to expect Deepu/Poonam or Jyoti to have to support it either.

Sushma really needs to call Brij on the phone and explain this to him - how that baby's future is more important than the sentiments of either of them, or anyone else in the family. She ought to be able to calmly explain that regardless of what happens to them and their marriage, that kid won't be well supported by them, but it will be in a fully functional family if she adopts it out. Maybe put the screws on Brij - get Brij to come w/ her and meet Sarika & her hubby, so that he can see for himself how they are more suitable parents. Then get to him the message that if he truly loves his kid, he should let it go, just like Sushma will. Also, make it clear to him that he doesn't get to choose the magnitude or nature of his punishments.

If Sushma can sell Brij on the need to adopt out their kid, her job is done - she doesn't have to sell that to her parents. If she wants to, Brij can.

I want this adoption to go ahead - it sends the message that sometimes, adoption is the best option for a kid. CVs, please don't abort this adoption.

P.S. One thing about the puja they were doing @ the hospital shrine: @ the end, Sushma looks up to see a Krishna in the lap of presumably Yashoda. Do you think that'll encourage her to go ahead w/ the adoption?

Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: vik rocks

well, mayb if jyoti regains her senses then she tells sushi not 2 give away her baby then sushi will get emotional n drop her idea n go back 2 brij... what a fantastic track!😡

Totally right vik :) Its been happening since two days and now 🥱 they are going to conduct Sushma's wedding. WOW!!!! what an IDEA. Well Well!! Ab next one hour episode kab hain bhai 😆 I guess they have selective amnesia - did they not hear the doctor say Jyoti needs rest and n more worries.
Let's watch as to how Poonam will handle the family expenses this time as I am sure Deepu is going to volunteer the entire cost.
The only thing I like is Kabir and Jyoti's & Kabir & his friend's conversation these days. Rest all bakwass fillers. I just hope Pankaj dosen't return in the end and let Jyotir lead a happy life. Also PaNeel try to adjust with their so called married life.

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