The Roar (of) a Junior Minister - Page 3

Originally posted by: SValeCalGal

How can you prove that the money used by Tharoor did not come from lobbyists and tax money

Dear - do give me some credit! I did say 'if as he claims it to be true' ... furthermore, let's not lose sight of the other part of my argument i.e. insensitivity of this sort should be equally condemned ... I still maintain that this is chump change compared to the latest mess of his creation ...Oh....OK, my apologies then.

Tharoor has been involved in past fruitless controversies too, so don't be backing him up.

Debayon (since I don't know your name), I think I've been patently clear about not championing his cause ... but you see what you've just said? 'Fruitless controversies' ... I'm interpreting that to mean 'trivial controversies' in which case all the past brouhaha was nothing but your proverbial tempest in a teapot! Besides, surely there is a political angle to his ouster (appeasing the opposition to ease passing of bills etc) ... I liked when the same sort of thing transpired with the fellas at the helm in Mahrashtra after the terrorist attack ... holding people accountable should be routine (we may have no one left in politics then) ...

All told, this is incredibly sad that a fellow with his skills should have allowed himself to be so easily duped and demonstrated such an abysmal lack of judgement 😕 Hmmm, let's see, what shall I call a controversy that created a whole lot of hype but in the end, did not help the economy, the education system, the defense et al, or in other words, bore no fruit??? Perhaps my English is a bit unsophisticated and occasionally, hard to follow, but please bear with me, madam. Well, of course, there is a political(read economic) angle to the ouster.....his gf was paid 70 crores in equity! And what was his only defense?? That he was a newcomer in politics. Agreed, but he had been serving in internatyional politics, he must have come across similar things, surely Let's not talk about SS, RSS, etc, that's entirely different, although I see where you're coming from. I completely agree with your last statement that a fella with his calibre is being wasted, but at the end of the day, he is the one who let himself be duped. It's unfortunate, really, but the truth is always bitter.

Let's make him God, yeah, let's go everybody!!!!

You lost me here ... sorry ...Yeah, that was sarcasm, no need to reply to that.

So, you would consider Colin Powell special too, whose false assertations led to the American invasion of Iraq, and he himself agreed that he screwed up big time?

Well ... surely you will allow a fellow who demonstrates contrition to be special ... in that regard ... yes.

In 'screwing up' he's a criminal only if he concurred with the decision knowing full well that the air reeked of falsehoods ... I don't think he was part of the sanctum sanctorum made up of Cheney and his sidekick the Shrub (since he's the 'Little Bush') followed closely by Condi Rice ... they fed people pabulum that had been strained through a very dubious colander ... so, who had time to check the veracity of the administration's assertions? For a fellow with an Army bkground, when the Commander says 'Jump' you're to say 'Yes Sir! How High?' ... in this regard Powell had hardly shed his uniform ...And he did so!!! He did agree that when CIA and FBI officials reported to him, those were just assumptions, but the guy assumed them to be facts without looking for evidence and reported to the UN in a similar manner. 2 years later, in some talk show(can't remember the name), he actually said "I screwed up". Who had time, well surely he did, since he was the Secretary of State, and thereof, responsible for taking decisions based on the foreign policies of America!

Can we judge a person just on the basis of his education?

Well ... surely it's one criterion! Why else is education held in such high regard - in all except pre-literate societies? And if you go back and read, I have stated quite clearly that his education - particularly given its nature - has not held him in good stead ... that he ought to have known better ... I repeat, can we judge a person just(or solely) based on his education. I don't think so, unless, you of course, have a different POV. Yes, what you said is true, as I said above.

Well, that's been the essence of your posts so far.

It has?!! Could have sworn it was something different! Recall, in the original post I was asking him to step down of his own accord because that is my expectation given his background! He now has copious free time to reflect on his actions and make amends! And this too, results from his education (it was 'Law & Diplomacy' after all) ... Yes, I misinterpreted your post. I'm sorry. I have heard however, that he has asked the Prime Minister to scrunitize further into the matter and clear his name....