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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyothi_misri

U know what the previous topic about selfish love and selfless love gave me the clear picture of yesterdays episode. All the while from the time Armaan returned Riddhima's behaviour looked so weird to me. Sometimes I questioned myself whether she loves both of them or has she completely forgotten Armaan in her life. But when I read ur previous post and saw the episode it has clear my all quieries about Riddhima. Now I can 100% guarantee that she only and only loves Armaan. No second thoughts about it. Whereas for Sid is concerned she likes him for what he was, respects for what has done to her, to her family. Moreover she completely believes in the institution of marriage. Once married u have to live to it till the end of ur life. This is what Riddhima's belief. When she Armaan comes back, though how much ever she loves him she could not break the bondage that she shares with Sid. That was the only reason she could not go back to Armaan . She wants to really try to fulfill the duties of wife. But fortunately or unfortunately Sid is not letting her to do so. Firstly he didn't let her know the fact about Armaan's return only to know whom does she choose. Secondly even after Ridz assured him that their marriage is the truth of her life, still he sends the divorce papers.

The terrace scene where Ridz yells at both the men for treating her like puppet and not giving her chance to fulfill the reponsiblities as a lover in love or as a wife now in marriage. This made Armaan realize his mistake(whatever little it is) made hime to take right decision of leaving Ridz forever for her happines. Whereas Sid falls flatly here misinterpreting her thinking, he wants to divorce her so that she can live with Armaan. He is kind hearted but Ridz does not want the marriage to break. And also Sid keeps asking her whether she still loves Armaan or not or does she completely forgotten their memories. My personal opinion about this is that he should never question Ridz about her feeling for Armaan bcoz that love was not the base for their marriage. He should not expect her to forget Armaan or for the matter should not expect to love him with the same passion. For a marriage like this especially arranged marriages there is no need of love (if its there no problem), what exactly needed is liking the other person and respect for each other. If these qualities are their then marriage can be successful. In Sid and Riddhima's case these both qualities do exist, then If Sid would have asked Riddhima whether she will be happy with him in this marriage then why does Sid expect her to forget Armaan and love him the way she does for Armaan. probably she would have said yes. But he questioned her about Armaan, when he gets no answer he misunderstood her and wants to divorce her without even asking for her consent about the issue.

Coming to BB scene that was one of the most emotional scenes in DMG where two lovers who are connected with their souls were getting separated forever (hope so not).

Then the precap where Armaan asks Sid to take the DP back and Sid says no. From whatever liitle was shown my interpretation about this is like when Armaan questions Sid to prove him to be a man, does that mean to show ur physical strength. Naaah. Armaan is asking Sid to take care of Riddhima and give her the happines he promised as he did before the wedding where he takes up the Riddhima's responsibility. So he is instigating him to be like that and not to show his Physical strength. Thsis what I thought about the precap. Lets see what exactly comes out of it.



thanks Jyothi....no doubt this is a complex situation. even the Cvs would have never thought we all would go crazy discussing pros and cons of this mess😆 Loved reading ur comment
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: candyy

@ bheegi
I jus love ur observation...Da way u explain each character is Amazing...Vry well written post....

I realy love da way u hve analysis Armaan's part...He is such a sweet heart...& I do agree in real world we dnt get men like Armaan...
I knw this BB court confrontal was da best part...Without saying much both Armaan & Ridhima said everything...The way Armaan says good bye 2 Ridhima was such a heart breaking part..But I realy like it coz atleast Armaan got his chance 2 clear up his part & also express his feelings 2wrds Ridhima..
Since Armaan came back I always wanted him 2 express his feelings infront of Ridhima again..& da way he has expressed his LOVE & CONCERN 4 Ridhima was Amazing..!!!!

Seriously Armaan & Ridhima r meant 4 each other..I mean Ridhima could always feel Armaan presence..She clearly knew that Armaan was there 2 say something important so she moves 2wrds him...
The way she moves back whn Armaan wanted a good bye hug was brilliant...I mean it is vry difficult 2 control urself at such an emotional moment...Jenny was Amazing....

Nw what can i add more on Armaan's part..the way he convey's his messages was too good,but yet very PAINFUL....Armaan was so emotional & broke..but yet he was thinking of Ridhima...Whn Armaan compliment Ridhima on her sindoor was like OOUCHHH...Seriously HATSS OFF 2 KSG..Brilliant..



thanks canddy....i think the acting of Jen and KSG made this scene even more memorable. They were both so expressive that even dialogues were not needed😊
Yes,guys like armaan in the real world are few and hard to find😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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di i've edited my comment on page 5
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishwariya

res di in office will comment after finishing my work
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Hey Di.. first of all wonderful post..👏 you made me once again fell the old riddhima thanks for that...

5 Stars for ur post ⭐️


ARMAAN:

This man never ceases to amaze me. Are there real men like him in the world? If yes, please send me their contact info so I can set him up with one of my good friends (too bad I am married lolz)

Lol di mujhe bhi ek de do mera wala teek nahi hai... 😆

Well, he was quick to learn his lesson after Ridzi's bhashan on how no one ever includes her in any decision about her own life. How the men always take decisions about her life without informing her. Armaan was well prepared. He came to the bb court to speak to her but when she growled , 'ab kehne sun ne ko kuch nahin raha hai,' he promptly pulled out his placards. Isn't it amazing that Armaan could predict her reaction and that's why he was prepared?

This is wat amaze me ever time he get to do all the things. which could make her feel n could get her guilt out.. he is such an amazing person to be loved n to be followed i guess mine should learn some lessons from armaan 😆


So, this time, he said a proper and heartfelt goodbye to her. There was no doubt in my mind that each placard just tore her insides and made her realize how helplessly in love she was with him and also how helpless she was about the circumstances.

She was helpless di n she will always be until she listens what her heart says
i can understand.. but y she had to hide herself with either or the men she could speak her heart out.. but if she does then again these two will start their tu tu mein mein thing 😆


There was no confusion in Armaan's actions or his thoughts. The fact that he even had a placard that said 'you are my life' shows how expressive and clear headed this man is.

This one thing he will be keep on saying till his last breath .. 😭

After Ridz denied him the goodbye hug (I will dwell on it later) he didn't complaint or plead for that last right of a man who was once her fiance and jaan. Instead, he congratulated her that she looked very beautiful in the sindoor.

They way he said. tum sindoor mein aur bhi koosurat lagrahi hoo.. man it made my heart in pieces.. they one thing which they both dreamt of.. is not now in their hands. they way she looked at him. man.. the pain which they had.. 😭


Armaan, why are you so nice? I wish at least once he had said something selfish but of course not- he is too much of a gentleman. He would rather bear all the pain and bear the burden of guilt so Ridz can be free of any burdens and live happily.

He could do all this die, even take a rebirth to make her happy.. but will never let her know about his pain n his feelings 😭

KSG's acting was of course excellent. I just wish he could have dubbed all his lines.

Yup. that was something .. wako

RIDDHIMA

Of course, she is the most complicated character in this show and continues to intrigue everyone. I know we all love KSG's acting skills, but I have to say, I admire Jen more every day as it is not easy to portray conflicting emotions day after day. Her eyes and body are never in sync and that IMO must be very hard for her to portray. If her eyes are full of love, her body takes two steps away from armaan. I think it's because of these conflicting messages, all AR and SR fans believe that Ridz is on 'their side'

jenny n Ksg stole the show.. they are one fine actors. to be said perfectionist 👏⭐️

The BB scene was a classic example of these internal conflicts so beautifully portrayed on screen:

First, as she sat alone on the court, she sensed Armaan behind her.
Initially, she gave him a tender look but once she recalled her conversation with Sid, she went into angry and denial mode once again. She shut her eyes and cried because Sid's eternal question "kya tum bhi armaan se pyaar karti ho' haunted her guilt.


she could never say him that she has always n will love armaan.. but to her fate she is married to sid n had to be faithfully n loyal to her marriage

In anger, as always, she blasted armaan because she could not show him her real emotions.

Then when she turned around and saw his bag, she softened and looked disappointed. It's then she took the steps towards him, staring at him with disbelief. Even though she had verbally said she wanted him to leave, her expressions said otherwise.


she never wanted him to leave her.. but the situation in which they are put through she would not like him to be sad when she's around him nor she could stay loyal to her husband

As he took out placard after placard, we saw glimpses of the real Ridz, very much in love with Armaan, hopelessly in love but helpless.


i was jumping when i saw the old riddhima.. i just felt at least riddhima just hug him once..

We saw a rainbow of emotions on her face as Armaan spoke through his eyes and his placards. Never at any point, did we see anger or harshness as we have the last few times she has interacted with him.


Today i realized y she was angry at him.. after seeing her expressions n they way she said.. "Tum ja reha hoo humshe kay liya"... she never wanted him to live her nor want him to stay n c him in pain.. 😭


It was interesting to see their silent conversation esp the part when he said 'agle saat janam mein tum meri hogi' - she even nodded silently, acknowledging that she would fulfill his wish in next seven births.


"Agle janam nahi balki iss janam se anay wala har jaan sirf yeh dono saath ho ek doosrekayliya hi jaanam le"..

Now, coming to the part where she retracted her footsteps when Armaan expressed his desire for a last goodbye hug- to me it was a sign of her last effort to keep her self control. The silent conversation with armaan had obviously shaken her up completely and she knew that the moment he would touch her, she would loose herself and possibly break down in his arms.

That thing even made me to shout at her but later realized her.. situation the wall which is built in between her n armaan will never let her do so & they way armaan backed off his steps Hatts off to him he needs guts.. put one thing if he had forcefully pulled her to a hug. she might broke down n tell her worries to him

We all know how good Ridz is at hiding her true emotions, and these steps away from armaan were actually her erecting that wall around her heart once again. If she had really moved on in life and very much in love with Sid, she would have not hesitated hugging armaan because after all, he is still her friend, if not lover.

Yup she actually thought me to control my emotions some what me n riddz are little connected with this emotional part.. She could does no want him to have the clue that she still loves him n wants him back in her life.. but her marriage 😡...

In real life, one hugs friends or lovers/husbands but Armaan is neither- he is not just a friend and he is not her lover/husband at this point. Because she STILL loves him, she refused to hug him. I know it sounds contradictory, but that's what I gathered from that scene.

Agreed di 👏

SID:

Well, Sid did not learn his lesson from the bhashan. Didn't she say, I don't want to be treated like a puppet? What did her husband do then? Treated her like a puppet! Why send the divorce papers through someone else and not even talk about it with ridz?

Woh abhi bhi bacha hai. di. he's so immature in taking decisions in his life... he may have done this for her happiness but could never give or understand her the way armaan does

I would be angry too if I were Ridz. Yes, she was angry on seeing the DP, not because she really loves Sid and doesn't want to separate from him, but because he had insulted her right to take decisions once again. Hasn't she be showing signs of rebellion lately that she wants to be in control of her life? Then why do something like this Sid, to add fuel to the fire.

Even my mom said. that she's just frustrated n felt rejected . She had done all ways to make her marriage work. by scarfing her love her happiness n her life everything just to make her marriage work but this guys just send a DP through a third person that insulted her self respect & her feelings ...


I am sure, a lot of u would disagree with me here, but I think it's Ridz's anger at being treated as a toy rather than her sorrow at potentially losing Sid that got her riled up on seeing the DP.



I agree with you here Di... n know what it takes to be rejected from ur husband when ur trying to make ur marriage work . i've seen my mom going through this....


The reason they have shown Ridz distraught is to reinforce the belief in Armaan that yes, Ridz has actually moved on and this marriage really means a lot to her.

Heartless ppl will think that..


THE FIGHT:

The fight in the precap is actually a very natural thing between the two men. In fact, when they showed the two men communicate on the terrace, I was quite surprised as men seldom have such a heart to heart talk. Men talk with blows and punches- that's what men do! Haven't you seen boys wrestle on the floor while their sisters play house-house?

I don't blame Sid for punching Armaan as no man likes his 'mardangi' to be challenged and that's what Armaan did! Sid is already having low self esteem after her confirmed that his wife loves someone else. Imagine how angry he must be at this point...so I don't blame Sid here and neither did I blame Armaan the last time. Of course, violence never solves any problems but yes, it's a natural reaction of all hot blooded men!

Well i guess Armaan just wants sid to realize that what ever he had done to Riddhima by sending those DP wrong.. as they say. he want him to behave like a man.. nor like a Girl
As they say


Well di my replies are in Red.. hope you would like it


Once again Di wonderful post... 👏





loved reading ur interpretation and replies Ish😊and i agree with ur mom absolutely😃
Edited by bheegi - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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again a superb topic from you di

i agree with you completely .

after reading your analysis on armaan , riddhima.,sid and the entire scene .i was amazed coz my thoughts are in sync with yours and you put it perfectly that i have no more to say.

i will however elaborate and reply to your post 😆

firstly, armaan ..i am definitely in that list but damn i am only 15 but i love armaan 😳

his reaction to ridz out burst was expected and well thought off coz we know that armaan only want ridz to be happy and his placards just made me smile through my angst and sorrow .

i was blown away by that scene . his preparation amazed me .he knew how ridz would react. and he came prepared and when he said that she will be his for next 7 births .i was incredulous .his love for her will never cease and i am proud of it.

riddhima ... what can i say about her? she is one complex character to analyse her makes my head ache coz she does one thing and then does some other that totally contradicts her previous actions but after reading your analysis i am more convinced that ridz loves armaan 😳
she is stuck..she cant find a way out of this , a way to escape .i really hope she does take one decision by herself whole heartedly i wanna see riddhima take charge of her life and we are seeing her rebellious streak now and how she blasted both the men for taking control of her life

armaan learnt his lesson and decided to take himself out of the picture for her happiness so that she could lead a happy life but we know that he can never be taken out of the picture because riddhima still loves him and he holds an important place in her life.

their silent convo was heart touching and it really showed ridz true emotions and you are right unlike ridz😆 armaan is much more clear about what he feels and we all know it ..he loves riddhima to no end

i wasnt surprised by her reaction after seeing the divorce papers .Obviously she would be angry coz she wants to take charge of her life and sid sent her DP without even discussing the matter with her.that would make her furious when she receives DP which is so out of the blue for her.

i was elated when i spotted the old ridz in this scene ..glimpses of her ..her real emotions ..when she was like tum hamesha keliye ja rahe ho ...she is helpless .i really dont want ridz to be in that way and neither armaan who is dying on the inside just living for his love riddhima . .he puts her in front of him always he is ready to take all the blame and he is doing that. he never ceases to amaze me. riddhima,her happiness is what matters to him and that is above all else for him

aww di thanxx for making me understand why she walked away from hugging him i was wondering the same and figured that her feelings for him are so strong that she wouldnt bear it and your post made me understand the scenario much better

and coming to the precap .yep theres a saying i think😆 boys will be boys .i really wasnt surprised at that punch and not even when armaan punched sid .its natural 😛 ..
ofcourse they are men but its natural and violence doesnt answer anything but their reaction was justified ..armaan did challenge his mardangi some how i found it funny 😆

well yea i have a hard time controlling my little bro and his friends .. their wrestling matches and fighting for stupid little things have 2 make sure they dont kill each other 🤣 kidding ofcourse they are just playing😆

love u di 🤗

love

sheela
Edited by sheel_dmgdiva - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi



loved reading ur interpretation and replies Ish😊and i agree with ur mom absolutely😃




Even she don't like the SR track di.. coz my mom had this same problem.. but the problem was my dad but i never had any hard feelings with hm.. but he should have said to my mom.. i just felt that my dad's biggest mistake was me... if not my mom would be happily married to other person. n would have got a better life...





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