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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: CZ..

@<font color="#000000">Its_Sash:<font color="#000000"> Looks like you're more obsessed with Dharmesh's flaws than with Shakti's strengths. I seriously cannot understand what to say to your above post because this topic is<font size="6"> NOT </font>about Dharmesh.



You should rather make a seperate topic to discuss Dharmesh's lack of expressions or contemporary skills rather than making my topic a comparison thread. Lastly, I usually love sarcasm but right now it's being used to mock me which is highly unacceptable.
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Though I have already mentioned it that I have used D as a yardstick for Shakti, as most of the people think he's the best. But whatever, lets put it like this sans Dharmesh!

I duely agree that that before Behtereen Barah Shakti was repeating the same dance style even the most Shakti's ardent fan was keen to see her in other styles. I was not exceptional and I thoroughly citicized her repeated performance.

However, I think after behtereen barah, Shakti has delivered a number of performances out of her genre. Now if you really find strange resemblance of contemporary in her every performance then such resemblance are also present in other contestants as most of the trained dancers tend to execute the steps of other dancing forms in their own way. Same is applicable to Dharmesh, Punit, Saajan & Jack. A general nuances of the body develops during the training of a particular style. But however, its strikingly different for Amar and Binny. They are not trained and they can easily adapt any style. That's why Both Binny and Amar are very good in bollywood style. But they cannot reach the perfectionist level in a particular dance style. Neither Binny can match Shakti in Contemporary nor she can match D in hiphop. but she can do justice to any number.

I strongly believe that versatility is very important but not in the cost of dancing quality!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shakti and loud expressions 😲 now when did that happen?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: CZ..

@Its_Sash: Looks like you're more obsessed with Dharmesh's flaws than with Shakti's strengths. I seriously cannot understand what to say to your above post because this topic is NOT about Dharmesh.

You should rather make a seperate topic to discuss Dharmesh's lack of expressions or contemporary skills rather than making my topic a comparison thread. Lastly, I usually love sarcasm but right now it's being used to mock me which is highly unacceptable.

Agreed this topic is not for Dharmesh - so should a topic on Dharmesh be started separetly?! - Trust me - I am Dharmesh's fan - still love his signature steps and can watch it over and over again and wont be bored...but it's not fair to say that shakti is dancing same thing over and over again,when others on DID have repeated the same.
I guess we human beings tend to turn blind eye when it comes to our favourites.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@Its_Sash: It's not about 'resemblance', it's about the entire performance being the mirror image of the same style. I'm okay with certain resemblance, but when you see the same kind of gymnastics over and over again, then I guess it does get jarring. It is jarring for me. I think at this point Shakti should cross her safe zone and do something different. Not necessarily classical, but maybe folk, or something like salsa, tango etc.
@ devashree_h: Her expressions have always been loud.
@Awww: Well yes, if this topic doesn't require Dharmesh to be mentioned, then I don't see why he, or anyone else for that matter, br dragged in this.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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👏 Excellent post OP. I agree with you, Shakti has done small variations on the same style over and over again. The week that she did hip hop, it was in a duet with Jack and Jack totally outperformed her. Her classical attempt was laced with simple steps as Geeta Ma and Remo both said. Outside of those 2 weeks she has not ventured very far from her "contemporary safe zone". It will be very difficult for her the coming 2 weeks as next week she has to do "popping" and I am sure Remo sir will not be satisfied with the same simple steps that she used in her classical attempt. I am hoping that Geeta ma will also give Shakti and all others a different style, something totally outside their comfort zone. As far as expressions go, Shakti overdoes her expressions quite often to the point where quite frankly her expressions are loud for the most part. This week everyone tried something outside their "zone of comfort except Shakti who did her same contemporary performance 2 days in a row. I hope that for his student's own development, Terrence sir stops giving Shakti contemporary style week after wek and allows her to learn and become proficien in different styles. 😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Awww

Agreed this topic is not for Dharmesh - so should a topic on Dharmesh be started separetly?! - Trust me - I am Dharmesh's fan - still love his signature steps and can watch it over and over again and wont be bored...but it's not fair to say that shakti is dancing same thing over and over again,when others on DID have repeated the same.

I guess we human beings tend to turn blind eye when it comes to our favourites.

That is the reason, Dharmesh doing same thing againg and again.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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how much contemporary by shakti?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................
i think as many as possible.
after all its keeping her in top 3.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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To me both Shakti and Dharmesh doing same thing again and again. So, DID becomes home for one-dimensional dancer. But over all Shakti is much better than Dharmesh.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I cannot but disagree Neeta, but that's definitely your opinion! Hi after a long time by the way! How are you?

I personally found the two themes she performed one diversely different as you said. And being a complete amateur at dance, if I may say so, except for the three years of Bharatnatyam, I personally never felt bored watching her performances. Remo is absolutely right. Terence has known perfectly how to cleverly turn around her "shaeli" so that she always performs something very similar to contemporary. I never once got bored of it. When I do, I'll be the first one to say it. That's because it's never been the same thing. Never the same steps, nor the same routine. Terence has shown not only different concepts or ideas, but a different form of the dance itself each time. And thanks enough, Shakti has always managed to excel in them all.

On the other hand, Dharmesh has shown a variety. I won't say otherwise. But it's always never been of the required level. For me it hasn't at least as a viewer. I've said it earlier in one of the threads, dance is a form of expression, and try as you might, you cannot do a hard Hip Hop song with the same expression as you perform a soft, lovely Waltz dance. That's exactly what has been coming from him. And sorry if it's otherwise for others, for me, it spoils the whole performance, despite how brilliant a concept may be. If Jai could be scolded several times last season despite having commendable expressions quite a few times, why is it any different for Dharmesh? Just because he's been highest voted a few times?

I won't say what Shakti is doing is marvelous for everyone. That's one reason why I've always preferred Kruti over Shakti. You can have a good try in varying dance forms, and yet learn to excel despite it not being your "shaeli". I still miss Kruti for having shown that, and always will. Yet, I won't blame Shakti as long as her performances are up to the mark, and till she continues to deserve that first place, she mostly certainly should remain there for me. By quite far, there's no one better than her in there, except Amrita to a large extent, Kunwar quite much or Punit a few times.

Forget Binny, I think Amrita is fast becoming another Kruti. An excellent dancer, and THE most underrated one right now. By underrated, I don't mean she doesn't get her due. She just doesn't get enough relatively. She's by far the strongest in Geeta Ki Gang, and deserves to remain in. Yet, wait and watch, she won't be there in the finals.

Last thing, comparisons are bound to happen whenever you post any topic guys. Stop biting off each other's heads and learn to voice out your opinions peacefully. What's so wrong accepting that while some prefer Dharmesh, others may look up to Shakti or others up to Punit? Live and let live. Discuss, don't destroy!


Thanks,
Sneha

P.S Nice to see you once again Neeta!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Shakti has done more of Contemporary, I agree..But she has also EXCELLED in other forms she has tried, including: Kalaripattu, Hip-Hop, Paso Doble, Bollywood style, Old School Jazz, Bharatnatyam (to some it may be some toddler style dance, but there are many of us who liked it), Freestyle, also. I dont know why still the topic of "versatility" is being raised??

She has not only "attempted"these style but have done them "amazingly well". She has not got the best performance awards for no reason. And well, what more, the concepts and the choreographies are original and not "inspired" acts.


Anyway, Shakti has displayed enough versatility and talent and rightfully deserves all the accolades she proudly walks of with.

Its not just enough to perform a number simply for the heck of showing versatility and doing a less than perfect job at it. I wont take names here. Shakti atleast rocks each and every dance that she has done 😳

To me: she has the right expression, style, grace, posture, energy to pull of every performance. There have been no negative comments from the mentors on any of these departments. None has ever criticized her technicalities (apart from Geeta on her Bharatnatyam and Remo on one of her Cube acts). That is why she is the best for me.
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