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Posted: 15 years ago
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Although this topic is not directly related to PKB but came to my mind while I was replying to the post of "violence to women". I have been thinking of discussing this a long time ago but never knew how to do it but now i think it is the best way to get other people's opinions thru our forum. Nothing menioned below is meant to be racial, cultural or ethnic..... it is a women's thought for her selfrespect and i want other women's opinion on it. If moderators find it wrong they can lock the topic but i would like to know the reason why they locked it (if they do)

According to me Ekta is giving a very bad image of India, Indian women & Indian culture through her serials.Her stories are always revolving around men-woman love story, their revenge and sacrifices. Her main characters are always at 2 far ends..... one too good to be true and other too evil to be true.... Her main lead which is always women is either:

(i)A model of sacrifice

(ii) the heroine is way too smart to fight for truth even if it goes against her family and is stupid to do that .e.g. these days in Bidaai, Sadhna gave witness against ranvir-one who saved her izzat saying that I was telling the truth. Honestly how many of us can swear that they have never lied???couldnt she give a modified statement for ranvir & family's good???? It is allowed in religion also that if a lie is for someone's betterment then it is okay to lie......and which indian women would do this, doesnt she know that she will be instantly thrown out of the house(susraal) after doing this. Although i have stopped watching bidaai once i read that sadhna will give a statement against ranvir and again the same bull*** will be shown. According to me sadhna deserves to be thrown out of the house....jis ne us ki izzat bachai ussi ko jail mei dalwa dia......sorry sadhna fans but tell him how many of you would give a statement against a person who saved you from a gunda? who would give a statement against her devar + jeeja???? would it have been better for Sadhna to get raped by that person if ranvir had not interfered........

I have never heard of a such a GREAT women who will claim a child to be her illegitimate child to save his husband/fiance's sister from problems (prachi of kayamath). I dont think any women can be so great ke apne hi character per dhaba lagne de dosre ko bachane ke liye. Why is she saving a girl who has crossed her cultural & religious limits b4 marriage...... no one have the guts to take the responsibility of such a big gunnah for someone not even for your sister. I mean we Asian women can give our life for our husbands & families but not our izzat........Even kumkum in her 2nd janam stayed quiet when her cousin went to meet her boy friend in night wearing kumkum's shawl and the whole village accused kumkum but she didnt speak the truth to save her cousin but did she ever thought what damage she has made to her character & father's prestige. It is only drama in which you get a good life parnter in the form of a hero after all the big incidents happening in your life but in real life if a women is accused of a wrong thing even if it is a misunderstanding, the life becomes so difficult for her & her family.
(iii) the vamp is toooooo negative basically evil in character. How come women of good families have contact with gunda's and have such guts to get someone killed or kidnapped??? (e.g. Anu of Des Mei Nikla Ho Ga Chand & Renuka of Kumkum and manyyyy more). They were shown way too evil and crossed all limits.

Apart from 3-4% exception which women from a respectable family will intentionally sleep with a man to make him his own and to distance him from his girl friend/heroine? (monalika of Kahani ghar ghar ki and many more too)

Which Indian women would still think about her long lost love after her marriage with a nice guy. These vamps dont forget their love & rivalry till their old age. Eastern women are kind of women who forget about everything after their marriage & kids (apart from 5-6% exceptions, even if they remember their love, it is only in their memories).For them only their husband & kids are important and that is shown in movies but our daily soaps shows very negative shade of women in her serials and the heroines which she show as the model of sacrifice are tooooo unrealsitic basically stupid, their sacrifice never makes sense and doesnt make any good difference in the life of the person for whom they are making sacrifice. No women in her right mind would give sacrifices which she shows; like prateeksha marrying an evil man like prashant. Why does she need to marry him after knowing his reality??? there is no sacrifice for sumo in the first place....according to me if she has decided not to marry shanky then just stay firm with her decision, what's the reason behind marrying prashant even after shashank has assured her twice that he will marry sumo if she breaks her engagement with prashant. Nothing abt prats-prashant makes sense these days.
I dont know why doesnt Indian women stand against Ekta & other serials or take out rallys to stop showing such nonsense......She is doing a direct attack on indian culture & values by showing 3-4 marriages and engagements, too many illegitimate children, being proud of those children and owning them, good relations with ex-husband & ex-inlaws. Does this happen in India???? i am from Pakistan but i know that the cultural values of India & Pakistan are the same. We share the same cultural heritage. The women are respected in both the countries, I know they are treated unfairly, face problems, get beaten up by husbands & saas, are asked for big dowry, forced to give birth to a boy but still OUR women is not like what Ekta shows...... in both India & Pakistan i have never heard that a women will be a friend or do job or do business with her ex-husband. Even if all in-laws were good and only the husband was bad and they are divorced i havent heard any indian or pakistani women having normal relations with in-laws (as was shown with prerna in kasauti and Kusum from Kusum).

Why is it always that in order to take revenge of your husband's death from your ex-boy friend who happens to be the hero of the serial, the heroine needs to marry him to take revenge (kashish of Kahin tou ho ga and many others). Isnt their any other way?

there are countless other questions which come to my mind as well as in the minds of all other viewers......

I would love to get some response about my above discussion to see what young girls/women feel like......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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out of 33 viewers none considered it a topic worth replying........does this show our preferences???? can reply to all other posts but not to a post about ourself.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Couldnt agree with u more here. Even if in PKB they wanted Prateeksha to be the sacrificing devi they could have shown that she slaps Prashant hand it over to him to the police and left Shanky's house. She stayed in his house. The next thing about these devis are they lie when it is convenient for them. They are actually the biggest liers. They r not honest to their husband and to their families.. They torture them just to keep one person happy. I have also stopped watching Bidaai just coz of this Sadhana lied when it was convenient and when she was need to lie she suddenly wasnt comfortable. Y cant they just show a normal regular women and as I wrote in Bidaai forum that my attention span for a serial is 6 months coz after that creatives start showing the crap and for them these are big twists and turns but foir us an audience we can perdict those twists and turns through our experience and the thing is that these so called CT dont love us coz if they love us they will show that can bring smile on our face at the end of the day. In Bidaai also they are showing crying for the last 4 months and in PKB since Prasha has fallen in love they have not shown one light, relaxed and happy moment between them

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Posted: 15 years ago
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thanks zarmeeno dear, you are the only one who not only replied to this post but also talked the same points which i think of......whatever you said is absolutely right, when they need to lie, they lie very easily otherwise on other situations become sachai ki murti which is all very unnatural.

The only drama which i watched from begining till end is Kutumb. It actually showed some sense. Everyone wearing normal daily life dresses. Gauri-not a sacrifice lady but a girl with very high self esteem. Pratham a very natural character, bigre hoe rayees are like that. It only started to go on Ekta track but thank god Ekta stopped it soon b4 making it a nonsense material. I liked Bhaskar Bharti a lot. Because it's main concept was based on fiction so every possibility was possible in it. It really used to bring smile on our face. The heroine wasnt just perfect but used to do mistakes also. Why cant she make some light serial with happiness & sadness both in a natural way. Why always dukh hi dukh & tourture hi tourture & badla hi badla????????? I used to love Jassi jaisi koi nahi.....it was an amazing serial but the creatives ruined it after jassi's make over. Again the same crap, no matter how bad the hero (Arman) has done, he was suddenly shown becoming devdas in her love and Purab was to be separated although he deserved her more. He was the one who always accepted her in her own way and helped her always....and i like malika's role in that serial. she was a normal kind of a vamp. Status concious and all, nothing evil in her character she was only negative not evil. Dont know if they had turned her character also evil in the end, i stopped watching it when it also became ektaish way so dont know....

again thanks a lot for your inputs..... no one else bothered to reply

Originally posted by: zarmeeno

[P]Couldnt agree with u more here. Even if in PKB they wanted Prateeksha to be the sacrificing devi they could have shown that she slaps Prashant hand it over to him to the police and left Shanky's house. She stayed in his house. The next thing about these devis are they lie when it is convenient for them. They are actually the biggest liers. They r not honest to their husband and to their families.. They torture them just to keep one person happy. I have also stopped watching Bidaai just coz of this Sadhana lied when it was convenient and when she was need to lie she suddenly wasnt comfortable. Y cant they just show a normal regular women and as I wrote in Bidaai forum that my attention span for a serial is 6 months coz after that creatives start showing the crap and for them these are big twists and turns but foir us an audience we can perdict those twists and turns through our experience and the thing is that these so called CT dont love us coz if they love us they will show that can bring smile on our face at the end of the day. In Bidaai also they are showing crying for the last 4 months and in PKB since Prasha has fallen in love they have not shown one light, relaxed and happy moment between them[/P]

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Posted: 15 years ago
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eleniel83 I totally believe that a serial should have emotional moments but not just emotional moments . I just wanna watch the serial that can bring a smile and can relax me after the tiring day. People keep on saying that saddness is part of the reality well I dont wanna watch the reality and stress. I watch it and go through it myself every single day. At night after my hard day when I sit down to watch TV I wanna relax I wanna something light that can take me into another fantasy world. Honestly I prefer watching cartoons, friends and other shows like this so that i can relax myself and have a smile on my face. And I know if PKB keeps on going this way I will stop watching it as well. When I watch TV i want to get out of my stress and think of something nice but these serials give me more stress. I keep on saying that if these CT think that they have so many ideas and so many storylines y not finish one serial in 6 months and start another one with the same star cast. Y torture us.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Zarmeeno i totally agree with your points.....sadness is a part of life but this doesnt mean you dont have any happiness life. In BT serials if 4 months are passed in tension then only 1-2 weeks are shown lightly and then again some new character enters and the war starts again.....your idea of finishing a serial within 6 months and then starting a new one with the same cast is good. I mean in the serial also after every 6-7 months a new story is introduced so your idea is absolutely right.....these creatives play with our feelings and are only interested in getting TRPs due to which they bring such stupid twists in the serial.....

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Posted: 15 years ago
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i was expecting to get a reply atleast from the active members of the forum like achiever, Mages, Lali17, nadz_j, jyoti06 etc but very dissappointed to receive replies from just 1 person....
i just raised this again b/c rose1982 just posted a new topic "Shameless BT" and the crux of that post is the same as mine. So couldnt stop myself from writing and showing my dissappointment....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Just for they sake of TRP's these people think they can portray women in any which way they like which is very wrong despite the fact that it is all fictitious.

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