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Posted: 16 years ago

Ok so I just checked the spoiler and I'm quite disappointed.

I know public voting for the Top 12 hasn't even started yet and I am already complaining about politics on this show. The fact that there are 4 contestants in each group seems to me like it can't just be a co-incidence.😕

Dharmesh was always going to be brought back. He has been one of the favourite's from the start and I knew from the day he was eliminated that he would be brought back. Now coming to Jack, I am very happy to see he has been given an opportunity to be in this competition. However I am not sure if he really did get one of the highest votes. I am just saying this because I know people usually prefer to vote for someone from India instead of abroad. (Just an observation but that's what I think.)

Also, voting was not even opened to viewers in the UK so he probably didn't get any votes from Norway or from other countries. In the UK, they edited the bits where contestants asked for votes, no voting details were shown..I'm not sure how it was in india though? A lot of editing was done, in the UK they did not even show who won the POD award (given to saajan). Nevertheless, I am glad Jack is back.

I am still somewhat surprised that the Indian janta didn't bring Parvez back in because usually the audience love the humble, nice personality guy who also happens to be a great dancer.😊I will definitely miss him. Coming back to Saajan, I think in order to make it seem like it wasn't a surprise that Saajan is brought back, he was given the POD award and there was quite a lot of stage time given to him where he outshone Naresh and was being praised a lot. (esp. by remo *surprise surprise*)

Jack too won POD award on Friday's epi where it was made clear that Jack had performed a lil better than Ameeth and he too was given a lot of stage-time.

Lastly, coming to Amrita..I always thought she should have been in the Top 18 instead of 'warrior princess' Teena😆I hope she speaks less and dances more because I do not enjoy watching her speak on screen. I feel bad for Vandana and I'm gonna miss her on stage!😭

So basically, I feel bad for Parvez and Vandana but well done to all these new contestants who have been given a chance and I hope they do not let us down.😊

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Posted: 16 years ago

@ h4L, u wrote all that I wanted to write regarding the wild card results, although I am a bit disappointed that vandana & parvez didn't make it....I really liked watching them dance....I wasn't so big on jack though, but I guess junta voted whom they liked & MAY THE BEST WIN.......

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Rahul4490

😭 Here we go again with the "voting is fixed" theory.....Just because Parvez didn't make it in, the voting is fixed, huh? How about, maybe Parvez just wasn't as popular with the Junta as he was in this forum? How about, maybe the Junta is tired of voting in contestants based on them crying on stage? How about, Junta just felt that Parvez wasn't as good a dancer as the other wild card contestants? I mean i guess all those aren't possibilities, huh?😆......I am very proud of the janta for their votes.........Please don't disparage the integrity of the votes and of people who voted by saying "voting is fixed"....if you have proof, by all means bring it forth.........It's a dance show and people vote based on dance, or at least they should.......Parvez being " a humble guy" should not have any weight on how people judge his dance...........Hats off to Janta for picking wisely.....and for the record I too wanted Vandana in, but am not gonna call the vote unfair just cause she wasn't picked 😊

Fair enough you don't share the same opinion as me but let's not go to the extent of saying 'people vote based on dance' cos we all know that's not always the case. I am not necessarily saying that the 'voting is fixed', but just saying politics play a big role in the whole show. If Geeta was still left with 2 contestants and Remo and Terence had 5 contestants each then things would have been unfair so I just feel to make things seem 'fair', there were 4 contestants put in each time. You are right about how this forum may not be a true representation of Parvez fans and how many people vote for him but even on the official DID site he was the most popular after Dharmesh. If you are talking about me proving that the votes are unfair then well in that case we will never know if the votes are fair either. Now I just watch the show and hope my favourites will make it through another week. I am also not saying that Parvez was the nicest guy on the show so keep him in but he was a great dancer! I loved the way he brought his own style to each and every dance.

If the junta is really bored of people 'crying on stage' or for all the 'unnecessary drama' then we wouldn't see people like Gauhar Khan make it to the finals of JDJ. It's funny how your comparing the WC contestants to Parvez where we have seen the WC contestants mostly do what they are best at whereas Parvez has shown almost everything.

Anyway I did say that i wish them all the best and hope they show their versatility on this stage just like Parvez and other contestants have. I'd just like to add, these are just my opinions and I do not expect everyone to agree with me.

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Fair enough you don't share the same opinion as me but let's not go to the extent of saying 'people vote based on dance' cos we all know that's not always the case. I am not necessarily saying that the 'voting is fixed', but just saying politics play a big role in the whole show. If Geeta was still left with 2 contestants and Remo and Terence had 5 contestants each then things would have been unfair so I just feel to make things seem 'fair', there were 4 contestants put in each time. You are right about how this forum may not be a true representation of Parvez fans and how many people vote for him but even on the official DID site he was the most popular after Dharmesh. If you are talking about me proving that the votes are unfair then well in that case we will never know if the votes are fair either. NowI just watch the show and hope my favourites will makeit through another week. I am also not saying that Parvez was the nicest guy on the show so keep him in but he was a great dancer! I loved the way he brought his own style to each and every dance.

If the junta is really bored of people 'crying on stage' or for all the 'unnecessary drama' then we wouldn't see people like Gauhar Khan make it to the finals of JDJ. It's funny how your comparing the WC contestants to Parvez where we have seen the WC contestants mostly do what they are best at whereas Parvez has shown almost everything.

Anyway I did say that i wish them all the best and hope they show their versatility on this stage just like Parvez and other contestants have. I'd just like to add, these are just my opinions and I do not expect everyone to agree with me.

Its not like that ma friend..Last year after wild card round geeta had only 2 contestants whereas remo sir had six! so do you mean to say that suddenly producers realized that they had committed a sin and needs to be rectified this year..DID official site doesnot give any information bout who got highest no of votes..u might be mistaken..or might be just another site but not the official one..

i know a lot of people who voted for saajan because they loved him not because he is great dancer because they had their sympathies with a self trained dancer and believed he will do good under remo sir..

Producers donot do anything that will disapoint the viewers after all its all about TRP..Maybe they found a good replacement for Parvez in Jack..both cannot be compared though..Remo sir is a respectable choreographer and if the show decides to give saajan to him inspite of getting less votes (as you said) its kinda fair..they cannot disappoint him as they do with geeta ma..as i think he has more influence on producers 😉 ..

Where amrita and dharmesh is concerned they both performed exceptionally well on 13 and not giving them another chance would be total injustice..

And i dont find anyone in the show till now who is like totally versatile like jai and alisha from last season..lets wait and watch..picture abhi baaki hain mere dost 😃

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ajinkya123

Its not like that ma friend..Last year after wild card round geeta had only 2 contestants whereas remo sir had six! so do you mean to say that suddenly producers realized that they had committed a sin and needs to be rectified this year..DID official site doesnot give any information bout who got highest no of votes..u might be mistaken..or might be just another site but not the official one..

Correct. And if you remember then there was a lot of controversy surrounding the fact that Remo had 6 dancers, some of whom did not deserve to be there. e.g. Rakhee and many others had left while she was given another opportunity.

i know a lot of people who voted for saajan because they loved him not because he is great dancer because they had their sympathies with a self trained dancer and believed he will do good under remo sir..

If I am not mistaken then parvez too is an untrained dancer with no formal training. The same goes for Vandana.

Producers donot do anything that will disapoint the viewers after all its all about TRP..Maybe they found a good replacement for Parvez in Jack..both cannot be compared though..Remo sir is a respectable choreographer and if the show decides to give saajan to him inspite of getting less votes (as you said) its kinda fair..they cannot disappoint him as they do with geeta ma..as i think he has more influence on producers 😉 ..

Exactly my point. Producers will not do something to upset the viewers. I am not denying Remo's status as a good choreographer but what he does with saajan we are yet to see so i can't comment on that now.

Where amrita and dharmesh is concerned they both performed exceptionally well on 13 and not giving them another chance would be total injustice..

And i dont find anyone in the show till now who is like totally versatile like jai and alisha from last season..lets wait and watch..picture abhi baaki hain mere dost 😃

Agreed. I have seen some amazing dancers and great performances this season but i am yet to connect to them and see the magic that was created by Jai, Vrushali, Mayuresh and Alisha. I love these 4 to bits!

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Rahul4490

😆 Again with "pavrez is vesatile, he has shown almost anything"........Then I will have to bring in "what style is he better then others in"? There is a big difference between doing everything and doing everything Well........All the contestants in the show have done different styles...the masters have made them do it......so it's not just parvez who's done different styles.........Dharmesh Sir did salsa, classical, hip hop etc........So let's stop with "Parvez has done many different styles" story.......😊

Why is it neccessary for Parvez or any other dancer for that matter to be the best in one certain dance form. Why can't someone be good at all? Dharmesh may do everything but as Terence pointed out in his classical dance, he isn't the best at everything. Being great at one dance form will only get you so far, Prince is the example of that. When he first came everyone went MAD about him (including me!😳). He was actually my favourite when I started watching DID1 but after months of watching the same thing, i got bored. I think the whole WOW factor cannot last forever unless you become really good at something else too. However I haven't seen enough of Dharmesh to say he is just like prince but what I am trying to say is that when he has done something out of the ordinary, then he hasn't been as amazing for me. Oh and yes, Dharmesh 'sir' did indeed do salsa, but Kishore stood out more for me than Mr. D.

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yes my friend u r slightly mistaken..though parvez may not have received training like shakti,punit,shashank and likes..but as i said in some other post (http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1339818&TPN=5) he is a dance master himself and teaches dance to over 400 students..thats what he said when he performed in INDIA GOT TALENT show..n i dont think any one can become a teacher without little training whatsoever

Vandana herself said she attended dance school after her work..

Nobody in this show is untrained..all the untrained ones were out from top 100..even teena has worked as a background dancer in bollywood and has worked with geeta ma..

If somebody is lacking in perfection then its clear that they are not talented enough..trained doesnt mean being perfect..

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Originally posted by: ajinkya123
yes my friend u r slightly mistaken..though parvez may not have received training like shakti,punit,shashank and likes..but as i said in some other post (http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1339818&TPN=5) he is a dance master himself and teaches dance to over 400 students..thats what he said when he performed in INDIA GOT TALENT show..n i dont think any one can become a teacher without little training whatsoever

Vandana herself said she attended dance school after her work..

Nobody in this show is untrained..all the untrained ones were out from top 100..even teena has worked as a background dancer in bollywood and has worked with geeta ma..

If somebody is lacking in perfection then its clear that they are not talented enough..trained doesnt mean being perfect..

But just like Remo keeps saying how saajan is so great because he learnt b-boying himself, I would say the same for Parvez. I am not denying how hard it is to learn b-boying but to get to DID to start off with is a big thing without having the support of a guru. I still remember how I sucked in dancing while trying to copy bollywood moves from tv lol but having a guru/teacher/mentor does do a lot IMO. I am happy for Parvez that he teaches all those students but that does not mean he got any formal training, it just means he had the chance to improve his dancing abilities while teaching other students at the same time.

I never denied that Vandana has NO training whatsoever, just that she has no formal training. And I think it makes a huge difference but maybe this is just because of my own personal experience and the opportunities that I got once I became a semi-professional dancer.

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Posted: 16 years ago

H4L, I clearly understand your points, and I see why you feel that way about Jack... I was also surprised about Jack and Saajan, but I like Jack now, so I am happy for him. It's true that NRI contestants dont get much votes from Indian viewers, and they usually go with regional bias too. The same reason why I felt Asma being made to stay until top five in SRGMP '09 show was all fake, when some excellent singers than her were made to leave before her!! Okay in Rakhee's case, Remo saved her until top 12, but remember she was the FIRST one to leave from top 12 - so it was justified, and also she wasnt a good dancer either. Now Jack and Saajan might have got votes from Punjab region, as Saajan is locally from there and Jack's roots are from there I believe.. I dont think Jack would have survived with votes from Europe, even if all the NRIs in UK had voted for him... So yes there's a possibility that it was rigged... Personally I would have loved to see Vandu back in TKT more than anyone...

Why 4 contestants per team - I think they were being fair, as many people opposed the way it was last time - 6 in RKR, 4 in TKT (who were there in top 9 itself, and he didnt get anyone from WC), and 2 in GKG... I was surprised that Paulson didnt make it when Sunita did!! Again, regional votes there! Same thing that had worked for Amrita too, and would have worked for Farheena is she was in instead... I can tolerate Amrita if she doesnt talk!

Now Dharmesh winning was very well expected... He should have been in top 8 itself if Geeta didnt have made him do that Theyyam dance... And in the DID2 site too, he was always way ahead in the polls... And then again, Parvez was leading second there among boys, and Vandu was leading first among girls, so I understand your confusion. If the polls give a true picture, then Dharmesh leading first is proved to be true, but it has failed to prove especially for Vandu. And both Jack and Saajan were very behind and still managed to be in when the others leading didnt make it. So let's take it that the polls are not real, and those numbers are not facts.

Let's accept the fact as it is, and wish Parvez and Vandu all the best. Now let's not forget that both of them did so well because of Terence; I dont think they would have made so many fans if they were in another team, as Terence brought the best out in them. Also let's be happy that Parvez is the only guy who was asked to perform the solo by Big B amongst all the contestants. I am sure that would be like winning the topi for him!

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Posted: 16 years ago

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Originally posted by: Rahul4490

Who even said that parvez was good in all?? He was put in to Dance ki Kasauti more then any other contestant.......so obviously he wasn't "good" in all.......and as far is Dharmesh Sir is concerned the only criticism that he received from the judges was with his "classical" dance......You may have not liked his Salsa but the judges who I would venture to guess know a bit more about dance then us gave him great marks for his salsa act 😊......and Dharmesh sir is a choreographer with his own dance school and many of his students were even selected in the earlier rounds of the show.....So comparing him to prince from DID 1 and saying "D sir only does one kind of dance" is not logical.......😊

Well that's your opinion and if you think he had reached the Top 18 despite 'not being a good dancer' than that is your opinion but I am sure the judges you talk about would disagree. After all, 'the judges that know a bit more about dance then us' gave him a lot of praise for majority of his acts.😉😛It's funny though, you say i should not comment on Prince because he was just a student and Dharmesh is a 'sir' because he is a teacher/choreographer after all. However what happens when the teachers themselves are left behind just like Prince's teacher who did not make it to the Top 18?😉

Anyway, let's see whose performances are the best as the weeks go by.😊

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