Does love need to be defined or explained????

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I watched Mayank Nupur scene today and also read various opinions about it.....lot of random thoughts came to my mind after all of it.....so bear with me if u find this post a little....ummm random....😆

The scene started and for those 2-3 min. all i could see was two people who love each other immensely......are scared, but can't be with each other at the moment. He felt her pain more than his.....and he wanted to reach out to her.....hold her in his arms and tell her "everything will be alright"....."i know u are scared so am I but this storm will pass"....."i'll not loose you"....."i'll not let that happen"......but he had no means to do that.....he could not hold her.....he could not talk to her......but he could see her......and love is love....it needs no medium to be expressed.

Sometimes you don't need words to express yourself.....sometimes you don't even need to hold hands to tell someone you will never leave that hand......sometimes you don't need to hug someone to tell them u are as close to them as their own heartbeat and sometimes you don't need a reason to say "I love you and will always do".......mayank today needed nothing yet he was able to comfort her, give her strength, wipe off her tears, tell her that he loves her and assure her that he'll always be there for her.......all said but no words........and she understood it all!! That's the beauty of true love.

I know i'm sounding philosophical but why do we try to define everything, why can't we leave few emotions untouched by right-wrong, realistic-unrealistic tags .....Do we ever question beauty of nature.....why a certain flower has that color or fragrance......(well except in botany class)......then why question love?

We see various lovestories on and offscreen and have formed an opinion about love as it suits us based on which we start categorizing things we see........"this is realistic", "this is cliche", "this is weird" or this is "pure filmy"......

It's funny how such beautiful emotions have somewhat lost it's charm and feel in today's materialistic world and fail to strike the right cord with us..... we find it hard to understand without making fun of it or calling it unrealistic. I wonder though.....what is more unrealistic.....our thinking or "love"?

Why does expression of love need to follow a guideline.....or look realistic or match our opinion or understanding......expressing one's love is beautiful..... be it by words, by gestures or just by eyes.....

and what i saw today was simply beautiful!!!

So i just wanted to know.....are you practical or philosophical when it comes to love......?? Do you need to question the madness called love and it's ways??

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Muskiiiii ...I m in love with what u wrote 🤗

I agree with you wholeheartedly...!!

Its so good to have a heart that beats and feel varied emotions..
To feel the most wonderful emotion that has been bestowed on us ..Love ..is indeed a blessing...!

I would say Love is a feeling that can be defined in various ways and explained through various examples...yet Love can never be fully defined or explained...to be honest..it need not be...
because, it needs to be felt with the heart and soul..

Today when I watched the scene with the strains of Iktara playing in the background, I felt that the beautiful feeling called love had actually manifested itself on my screen...with no words spoken and only eyes and some actions to express a million feelings that come surging through as u look at the person u love ....with your entire being.

When Mayank senses the presence of Nupur and turns around...and sees her with tears in her eyes..he is torn by a feeling of over-whelming loss...an inability to do anything but stare at her..then his heart tells him that he has to comfort her for he has sworn to never bring tears in those beautiful eyes...He tells her through actions that he is always there for her and she is in his heart and asks her not to cry....she is moved but can smile just that little bit because she has managed to fake the engagement. He, however had to watch his lady love getting engaged to another guy and is still overcome by emotions.

In a poignant moment , that has him thinking of the time she tells him I love u through actions, he uses those actions she taught him in a game, in the real game of life. Their life had become a game in the hands of destiny. As she sees him say I love you ...the girl who once famously asked him..tum I love u nahi bolna jaante...smiles and gives him a kiss as the acknowledgment of his love for her...and hers for him...He catches it and it is the most beautiful action that is steamed out of real feelings...I am so thrilled that such a beautiful scene was gifted to us by these extremely gifted actors Arjun and Rati and the CVs (Whom I never praise) thank u too...for letting us feel the love..

Love sure is a painful ride but then its always indefinable and no explanations can do justice to it..

Yet I would say, I m in love with this scene and consider it a testimony to the overpowering feeling called love that has survived centuries and no heart is free from getting swayed by this emotion...!

-Divya
Edited by myownarea - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Great post muski.........👏
Whether love can be defined or not.....i really donno........for me...it is an unconditional emotion..that can only be felt.........& we just cannot bound this emotion.....with the a fixed rule of good & bad.or right or wrong.....love is beyound all these......beyond any language, any religion, any culture.......& yeah.beyond any explanation.
now just think of us....we r all here.........fans from various countries....various nations...coming from differenr familis.different cultures.....why??????? it is our love for two amazing characters..Mayank & Nupur...in a show called "miley jab hum tum".....that brought all of us here...at first.& bonded us together......to be friends.Isn't it wonderful feeling?????Now can anyone explains the reason for that...or i should say..whats the need of explanation? just the feeling is so amazing!!!!!!!!😃
now that brings me to my very much loved characters.mayank & nupur & the special scene that we hv all seen today!!!! the scene started with a very heart touching song......"iktara"........i know its been the favorite song of last year for many of us......simply becoz u just hv to fall in love with this song the moment u hear it.......😊
nupur a gal who is very much in love comes into the balcony........to meet the love of her life.she knows she can't be with him right now....still she came there.to meet him.becoz her heart says to do so.....Mayank on the other hand was waiting for nupur..he knows the circumstances r against him now...it is may be not the right time to meet her.but what could he do?....he just wanted to c her.only for once........just make sure she is alright........they saw each other....but there is a distance..a barrier is there between them .thay can't talk to each other.they can't hug eachother.....but that could not stop them........for them... their eyes were talking..sharing each others pain... their gesture was enough for them......to give assurance to each other.........they didn't hv to say "i love u" to each other..yet their heart clearly listened that unspoken magical words........
who is right here who is wrong..who did mistake & who is correct.all l these were issues.but truth is much bigger than these minor issues.& truth is they can't stop loving each other becoz of all these .....what they feel for each other is much more important .& they just cannot remove that feeling from their heart.......
as a viewer their emotions touch my heart....no dialogue was there.....but still still i can feel their pain.....i don't need any explanation or reasoning for my loving that scene...it is a feeling beyond these.....i just enjoyed each & every bit of it from the bottom of my heart..& for me that is what matters more.........
way to go mayank & nupur.we love u!!!!!

Edited by Mou. - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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👏Musky and Divzzzzzzzzzzz soooo well said indeed.

Love, what is it? Umm lets say an emotion but then an emotion encompassing various other emotions like care, trust, happiness,anger, possessiveness, pain, hurt to name a few. Its such an ironic thing as i always say, love even though it gives the kind of pain, none of other things can, like losing our loved ones or being betrayed but still we all want it and run more and more close to this troublesome emotion that is if it is deemed to be troublesome in the first place.
This is only one side of the story, love also has the power to give the feeling of being complete, content and the kind of happiness it can give nothing else can. I am not trying to balance and weigh the pros and cons of this emotion. My purpose here being to just understand this emotion.
I certainly think Musky that love is something which can't and shouldn't be defined. only if having a definition for everything makes some people's lives easier then they should go for defining it. But in my opinion its a magical emotion indeed, a mystery and even if an attempt is made to have a stringent definition for it; that would be a futile attempt.
Love only needs to understood, experienced and concept of love is what i loveeeeeeeeee so much.
About MN, i would just go with what you and divzzzzzzzzzz said totally. Really well said guys. Kudos to you both,👏
I just had to add this bit, i lovedddddddddddd the way mayank hid his pain and felt nupur's pain more and hayeeeeeeee the way arjun said by his actions that don't cry and smiled to give her courage.
Equally i lovedddddddddd the way nupur hid her tears later and smiled to give him strength and assure Mayank that all is fine. I loved the way rati smiled trying to hide her pain and tears, sooooooooo delicately and beautifully doneeee.
They both smiled to give eachother strength though they both were dying and dying from inside.
Edited by Senny - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Muski a great post.......................its said that love needs no language, no words and no communications always................
When love resides in two hearts, the become one.............and at such times, words become secondary.............

Mayank and Nupur's love for each other after all trials and trivulations have reached such a level..............He forgotting his own pain for once, comforted her, reassured her............without a single dialogue, or any sort of physical display of affection................

The scene was beautiful it all sense, coz not only it communicated what was intended, but also touched our hearts........................so i would like to conclude that when people on screen are actors like Arjun and Rati, then gestures, expressions say it all............whether they speak or not..........................
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i think todays scene was simply magical....they portrayed the emotions, separation n need soooooo well. obv the bkground score helpd. arjun was outstanding today!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Muski, firstly wonderful post by you dear. I agree with your post and with what you've tried to explain about "love".
In my opinion, love is this emotion which cannot be explained in words or any definition, its just this natural emotion which happens to a person unknowingly. It cannot be defined, it is the most beautiful emotion that any person ever experiences in his life (im not trying to make it sound like a definition, but i think it'll end up being one from my side 😆 ) . Anyway for me love in neither practical nor philosphical, it is the most natural thing that could ever happen to anyone.
And about today's episode, Mayank & Nupur were at their best, which i mean is Arjun & Rati were at their best today, those emotions that they portrayed were so natural & original, im still in an awe of how beautiful their "Iktara" sequence was. Simply outstanding.
Yam
Edited by Yamini.Arjun - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: myownarea

Muskiiiii ...I m in love with what u wrote 🤗

I agree with you wholeheartedly...!!

Its so good to have a heart that beats and feel varied emotions..
To feel the most wonderful emotion that has been bestowed on us ..Love ..is indeed a blessing...!

I would say Love is a feeling that can be defined in various ways and explained through various examples...yet Love can never be fully defined or explained...to be honest..it need not be...
because, it needs to be felt with the heart and soul..

Today when I watched the scene with the strains of Iktara playing in the background, I felt that the beautiful feeling called love had actually manifested itself on my screen...with no words spoken and only eyes and some actions to express a million feelings that come surging through as u look at the person u love ....with your entire being.

When Mayank senses the presence of Nupur and turns around...and sees her with tears in her eyes..he is torn by a feeling of over-whelming loss...an inability to do anything but stare at her..then his heart tells him that he has to comfort her for he has sworn to never bring tears in those beautiful eyes...He tells her through actions that he is always there for her and she is in his heart and asks her not to cry....she is moved but can smile just that little bit because she has managed to fake the engagement. He, however had to watch his lady love getting engaged to another guy and is still overcome by emotions.

In a poignant moment , that has him thinking of the time she tells him I love u through actions, he uses those actions she taught him in a game, in the real game of life. Their life had become a game in the hands of destiny. As she sees him say I love you ...the girl who once famously asked him..tum I love u nahi bolna jaante...smiles and gives him a kiss as the acknowledgment of his love for her...and hers for him...He catches it and it is the most beautiful action that is steamed out of real feelings...I am so thrilled that such a beautiful scene was gifted to us by these extremely gifted actors Arjun and Rati and the CVs (Whom I never praise) thank u too...for letting us feel the love..

Love sure is a painful ride but then its always indefinable and no explanations can do justice to it..

Yet I would say, I m in love with this scene and consider it a testimony to the overpowering feeling called love that has survived centuries and no heart is free from getting swayed by this emotion...!

-Divya



Hey divz.....thanks for liking my post and thankyou for writing such wonderful thoughts....
i agree to every word u said. i too believe that such beautiful emotions should be felt not looked upon as another thing in our list of things that needs dissection....

The moment was beautiful and so were the feelings!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Senny

👏Musky and Divzzzzzzzzzzz soooo well said indeed.


Love, what is it? Umm lets say an emotion but then an emotion encompassing various other emotions like care, trust, happiness,anger, possessiveness, pain, hurt to name a few. Its such an ironic thing as i always say, love even though it gives the kind of pain, none of other things can, like losing our loved ones or being betrayed but still we all want it and run more and more close to this troublesome emotion that is if it is deemed to be troublesome in the first place.


This is only one side of the story, love also has the power to give the feeling of being complete, content and the kind of happiness it can give nothing else can. I am not trying to balance and weigh the pros and cons of this emotion. My purpose here being to just understand this emotion.


I certainly think Musky that love is something which can't and shouldn't be defined. only if having a definition for everything makes some people's lives easier then they should go for defining it. But in my opinion its a magical emotion indeed, a mystery and even if an attempt is made to have a stringent definitionfor it;that would be a futile attempt.


Love only needs to understood, experienced and concept of love is what i loveeeeeeeeee so much.


About MN, i would just go with what you and divzzzzzzzzzz said totally. Really well said guys. Kudos to you both,👏


I just had to add this bit, i lovedddddddddddd the waymayank hid his pain and felt nupur's pain more and hayeeeeeeee the way arjunsaid by his actions thatdon't cry and smiled to give her courage.


Equally i lovedddddddddd the way nupur hid her tears later and smiled to give him strength and assure Mayank that all is fine. I loved the way rati smiled trying to hide her pain and tears, sooooooooo delicately and beautifully doneeee.


They both smiled to give eachother strength though they both were dying and dying from inside.




Agree with you senny 100% and thankyou so much for sharing your views here.....
as you said love can only be felt....it is so true......if it wudn't be for that feeling and that invisible string that ties two people in a lifetime bond MN wudn't be able to express their emotions so beautifully.......it was magical!! and one needs to experience the power of love to feel it's strength.....and understand that nothing u do in love is weird.....
arjun and Rati were flawless......made MN heavenly.....

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: annie07

Muski a great post.......................its said that love needs no language, no words and no communications always................<br>When love resides in two hearts, the become one.............and at such times, words become secondary.............<br><br>Mayank and Nupur's love for each other after all trials and trivulations have reached such a level..............He forgotting his own pain for once, comforted her, reassured her............without a single dialogue, or any sort of physical display of affection................<br><br>The scene was beautiful it all sense, coz not only it communicated what was intended, but also touched our hearts........................so i would like to conclude that when people on screen are actors like Arjun and Rati, then gestures, expressions say it all............whether they speak or not..........................<br>




Is it power of that very love that u've not slept till now....... 😆
I agree with you annie.....it totally touched our hearts......just expressions made it even more special.....and arjun rati excel in that........

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