When/How will Pankaj know that Jyoti is innocent?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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If Pankaj is not ready to listen to anybody regarding Jyoti's safaai, when/how will he know that Jyoti is innocent? 😕

Is he going to send a divorce notice and will all the court drama make him realise he made a mistake?

Or will Jyoti's dance teacher and/or Pankaj's uncle who works in Shishu Mangal can change Pankaj's bad opinion abt Jyoti?
I am not worried that Pank and Jyo are on a break now but it bugs me 😡 😡 that he thinks Jyo had been having an affair with Brij even after marriage. Atleast that part needs some clearing the air.. if he was angry at Jyoti for not sharing the past so he could have helped her to fight against Brij , then that seems reasonable...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I don't care if Pankaj never re-unites w/ Jyoti - in fact, had Padma not been such an abusive step-mom, Jyoti could have happily lived as an unmarried gal up to now, and just supported her family, and not had divided loyalties. Sudha is the right type to be a bahu. To an extent, so is Sushma, but Jyoti, absolutely not.

I hope the CV's go from this boring track of Jyoti's romance, or lack of it, to others in both families, such as Pratik and Sandeep. Also show more of Suday, and show how she is a loyal & successful bahu, helping Pratik's wife into the family (and I want it to be Sajni, not Sushma) and helping even CM realize that the Sharmas are a good family after all. As for Jyoti, focus on her putting her life back together and being an unmarried inspiration to kids, either in Sishu Mangal, or preferably somewhere else that the Vashishts ain't funding.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vrisha

I don't care if Pankaj never re-unites w/ Jyoti - in fact, had Padma not been such an abusive step-mom, Jyoti could have happily lived as an unmarried gal up to now, and just supported her family, and not had divided loyalties. Sudha is the right type to be a bahu. To an extent, so is Sushma, but Jyoti, absolutely not.

I hope the CV's go from this boring track of Jyoti's romance, or lack of it, to others in both families, such as Pratik and Sandeep. Also show more of Suday, and show how she is a loyal & successful bahu, helping Pratik's wife into the family (and I want it to be Sajni, not Sushma) and helping even CM realize that the Sharmas are a good family after all. As for Jyoti, focus on her putting her life back together and being an unmarried inspiration to kids, either in Sishu Mangal, or preferably somewhere else that the Vashishts ain't funding.

i dont agree with u on this line, well jyoti is a good bahu

her character is different to sudha and sushma, sudha is known for nothing else but a patient who had a personality disorder, she can be a good typical bahu now coz she is recovering of it
and sushma didnt need to be a good bahu, but was a good wife
and about jyoti, she had many other responsibilities, so you cant compare her with sudha and sushma, she was a good bahu but couldnt fulfill it correctly coz of her maayka-problems
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Posted: 15 years ago
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What happened to Pankaj's uncle at Shishu Mangal? Can't he step in and tell some of what happened prior to their marriage?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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you know what who cares if this looser forgives her or not, he is such a pathtic coward & takes joy in by staying in self pitty made, get a life.
i personally feel for such a strong character the directors have chosen a useless actor, hate his acting cant emote the pain at all & it looks so wooden & fake when he is trying his best to show his anguish
joyti is better without him, poor guy im blind you married me put pf pitty, so now im going to be a cry baby, my money why are rich people portrayed so pathetically in indian shows, they believe they are rich so who ever comes to there lives, is pure because of money, when are vishest family ever going to leatn & pankaj looser to realise that she loved him very much now & plus shame on pankaj, trusted a looser like brij over his wife
shame on you mr pathetic jump & die mr pankaj
Edited by sajibabe - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I disagree with Vrisha. A good daughter can be a good bahu. Why is such pressure not there on the son? No one exepcts him to be a good son in law or jamai?! I think there has to be a balance.

The only place that Jyo faltered was in telling the truth, else she was a great bahu. Had she told the truth, she need not have hid everytime she went to help sushma...which means in all probability the vashists and pankaj would have gone with her to save sushma and not gotten mugged in that robbery. All jyo did was to financially suport her parents and help them whenever needed.

For the record, I am a daughter too and have not got a brother so I juggle the role of a good daughter (my parents are financially independent so they do NOT need my money, yet I save it for them), and an ideal DIL. I also work full time, and am a full time mom since I work from home. I assist my husband in his business as well. Do I do the best in each role? Far from it, I always feel I could be better, but I do try!

In today's world, women especially educated ones are also under tremedous pressure to live out all kinds of roles. THe traditional 'I educated and brought up my son, so he takes care of me' does not work, since my parents educated (post graduate) and brought me up as well. How do they 'recover' the fees that I siphoned off during my growing up?

I completely disagree with these traditional lines drawn between a daughter and a daugther in law...while there is no such rule for a son!

Sorry to vent...but I seriously feel we need to change our attitude here. That is why I am more than mad at Jyo for lying! If she had only told the truth ONCE, Pankaj, his brothers and his parents would have all supported her.

CM and her daughter would have been pushed to the position of 'noise making machines'..

I do hope the final story shows something positive that today's girls can do all the roles and that there is nothing wrong if a girl helps her 'birth family'.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Abida0210

i dont agree with u on this line, well jyoti is a good bahu

her character is different to sudha and sushma, sudha is known for nothing else but a patient who had a personality disorder, she can be a good typical bahu now coz she is recovering of it
and about jyoti, she had many other responsibilities, so you cant compare her with sudha and sushma, she was a good bahu but couldnt fulfill it correctly coz of her maayka-problems


You yourself nailed it above - that's the reason Jyoti can never be a good bahu - she just can't let go. Those maayka problems are the distractions that prevent her from being that, but what's worse - even when she was told by Sudha that Deepu, for instance, could file Sushma's police report, Jyoti insisted on being the one to do it. She has too many things on her plate. Since she can't let go of her maakya's issues, she has no business taking on the responsibilities of a bahu. In fact, not just CM, but even Gayatri was noticing that in some instances.

Sudha, OTOH, never had divided loyalties. When she was single, she was fully dedicated to her household - wanting to succeed Jyoti in her former role, and Uday had to come and take her out on the few occasions that they 'dated'. After marriage, and after she was accepted in her sasural, she's been fully pre-occupied w/ that and their work, and except for the one occasion where she stayed home to welcome Pankaj's benefactor Brij, she's never been MIA for anything her sasural needed. As for her DID, that only comes up when she's abused, otherwise she's a shy and inhibited, but otherwise perfectly normal person.

If I was in the place of MN&G, I'd be looking for ways to give more responsibilities and recognition to Sudha, and minimize Jyoti's workload to the point that she hardly needs to be in that house in the first place, except for at the wishes of Pankaj. Like maybe hand those keys to Sudha for good, even if Jyoti were to be ultimately accepted back into the family. If Uday, rather than Pankaj, can run the family business, Sudha, rather than Jyoti, can assume the bahu responsibilities.

Sushma was never tested on this. If she ever re-marries and has an actual sasural, rather than a Brij-like shack, she'd probably do justice to it just as Sudha does to hers. But Jyoti's only way of becoming a good bahu would be the demise of KK, Padma & Dadi - nothing more, nothing less.


If you notice, even CM, who has looked for pretexts to slam Sudha, does so on the basis of her loyalty to Jyoti, but never throws at her the same charges she throws @ Jyoti, namely that she's more pre-occupied w/ her maayka than her sasural. B'cos even she knows that there's no way that would stand w/ anybody.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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My point above is that any one - be it a daughter or a son - has to pick one role - either role - and run w/ it, except in circumstances like yours. I wouldn't have problems w/ a son being a good daamat and not a good son. (Since I & my wife live separately from both, in our case, neither plays either role, except for our own household) But when a gal marries, she usually needs to pick one role or the other, and not merely double her workload, or else, it's impossible to do justice to either. It's one thing if she & her hubby live separately from both sets of parents, and then they have their own responsibilities, and just lend a helping hand to whoever needs it. It's another if she lives in her sasural, has a whole set of responsibilities, but does too many things for her maakya despite having bros & other unmarried siblings who can do that.

In your case, you have no bros, but in Jyoti's case, she has Deepu, who is responsible and who has been doing what he can to make the family run. So why was it up to Jyoti the entire year to see that Sushma was okay, or exposing Brij, or getting Sushma back home, et al?

Another major disservice Jyoti did to her sasural was that in trying not to take their money, she dedicated too much of her time to her maakya, and since everybody has only 24 hours, that meant time taken away from the sasural. They had wishes as well - for instance, Pankaj's mom at the beginning wanted Jyoti to stay home so that she could get to know her. Jyoti's bigger priority was to work to earn money for her folks. Had she done what Pankaj offered and simply sent a regular lumpsum of cash home monthly (which really was all they needed from her, and that could have been in the form of a direct diposit, rather than a monthly repetetive ceremonial visit to her maakya, where she was already spending too much time due to Sushma) w/ the full knowledge & approval of not just Pankaj but the family at large, she could have dedicated most of her time to the Vashisths, and left Deepu & Padma to run after 'Sushi'. In Sudha's case, where everything was transparent and the Vashisths knew what was going on, she was justified in taking primary responsibility (along w/ Uday) for Sudha. In this way, Jyoti would have let down neither family, since the maakya would have got its money w/o her wasting time in Sishu Mangal, while her sasural would have got her time. Incidentally, does Sudha still have her job, or is she now a full time housewife?

Had Jyoti given a major portion of her time to her sasural, she'd probably not be in the situation she is today. Even if one day Pankaj was told that she had another sister Sushma, she could have said that since she disowned Sushma, she was justified in not telling the Vashists about her. Also, had she spent the majority of her time there, Brij would either not have gone after her, or if he did, he'd have been a lot more hard pressed to tell them that she tried to have an illicit affair w/ him.

Bottom line - not all girls have to be married, and not all girls are suitable for being married. Likewise w/ guys.
Edited by Vrisha - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: samirah23

What happened to Pankaj's uncle at Shishu Mangal? Can't he step in and tell some of what happened prior to their marriage?


In Friday's episode, he tried to, but was rudely addressed by CM, and while he was being treated so shabbily, MN&G just watched gaping and did nothing. He was disallowed from seeing Pankaj, and finally left, after CM ordered that he be escorted out. He also resigned from Sishu Mangal, following CM's crass reminder that Sishu Mangal runs on Vashisth donations.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Abida0210

i dont agree with u on this line, well jyoti is a good bahu

her character is different to sudha and sushma, sudha is known for nothing else but a patient who had a personality disorder, she can be a good typical bahu now coz she is recovering of it
and sushma didnt need to be a good bahu, but was a good wife
and about jyoti, she had many other responsibilities, so you cant compare her with sudha and sushma, she was a good bahu but couldnt fulfill it correctly coz of her maayka-problems

i agree
jyoti is a perfect bahu
Edited by preeti-94 - 15 years ago

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