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Posted: 15 years ago
#11
The Karanskar family is better off without Manjushah and her husband .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#12
U got other point of view here... See Manju was never afftect by more members as she got her own room n she dint even have to do ne work.. Yeah some times some work but she lives separately then she have to do more work...

I understand about practical approach but then i guess m orthodox in this topic.. I truly believe that bug families can stay together happily... I really think that Sons shouldnt separate from their parents..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Manju wont be able handle her responsibility once she starts living alone.I think Punni was brought up by Archana and not Manju.All that housework, office work and looking after Punni is going to take a toll on her. She can employ a maid but not for everything.Vinod is going to be very frustrated once they start living alone.Yes, there are women who handle work and home alone but Manju is not one of them.She was pampered by Rasika and then she was pampered by Sul and Archu.

As for the topic, yes its ok if the son wants to move out because relations can be maintained through a distance.And its also normal for Sul to react the way she did.She is mother after all and she must have hoped that her son will stay with them forever after the girls have left for their homes.This hope of her was shattered because Vinod had never talked about living separately.The news came suddenly to them.Both of them were shocked.But they will have understand it.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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i agree with devashree .
Sulochana's reaction is understandable . 80 % of middle class Maharashtrian moms .......if told suddenly that son is living seperately will react this way only . It was told initially to her that the flat was being taken for investment purposes only . She is a simple traditional woman , who believes daughters will be the ones who leave and son will remain with her . And they did , for quite some years after the marraige . Besides the arrangement worked just fine . Manju wud go to office and all housework was looked after by Sulochana and Archana . They took care of Punni too . There was no jhik jhik . It was a smooth arrangement . To Sulochnas credit she was , unlike Savita , a very good mother in law . She once bluntly told her daughters not to make an issue of Manjus behaviour as her fights with Vinod will affect Punni . So from her viewpoint i can understand it .
As far as making Vinod feeel guilty is concerned ...........they will show this scene as some drama is needed . But i dont think she set out to make him guilty on purpose . Savita did that a lot with Manav in the past . Remember her scene how she threatened to leave house when Manav raised his voice only once . Now that is called a real bad fake guilt trip .
Manohar is the perfect foil to his emotional , energetic wife .............calm , wise , rational and immensely decent . It is a good couple . We often see Manohar signalling to her not to get excited and talking things over . He isnt really wimpy ...........most couples r like this .
I think this whole Manju moving out business is PR team's ploy to show us Manju getting punished for her evil deeds ...........by poetic justice . It is the upar ki lathi mein awaz nahi par bahut zor se lagti hai thingy . After becoming seperate , Manju will not be able to manage housework , Punni , office at all . THe very same Manju who cribbed about contributing to even the smallest of expenses to her husbands household will be seen sitting with household accounts and no savings as all their joint income is consumed by servant salaries and babysitting . Besides there will be the mortgage of the flat . Oh no , it will be a tough time for Manju alright . Fights with Vinod will intensify and this time she will be exposed as there is no Sulochana to cover up for her . Vinod too will see how inept his wife is to live independently . Rasika will come and go and Vinod will lose his mental peace and one day will walk out on Manju and go back to his old home . Not just that , I think Vinod will overhear Manju and Rasika talking . I think this is where the serial is headed to .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Exactly KS..

Manju is going to repent every second for living separately.Manju never had to touch her salary because Sulochana never took any money from her.Now Manju will have to spend every penny of her salary on her house.She wont be able to handle the pressure of looing after her house alone. I think Rasika's interference will increase once they separate and this will irk Vinod a lot.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

I think this whole Manju moving out business is PR team's ploy to show us Manju getting punished for her evil deeds ...........by poetic justice . It is the upar ki lathi mein awaz nahi par bahut zor se lagti hai thingy . After becoming seperate , Manju will not be able to manage housework , Punni , office at all . THe very same Manju who cribbed about contributing to even the smallest of expenses to her husbands household will be seen sitting with household accounts and no savings as all their joint income is consumed by servant salaries and babysitting . Besides there will be the mortgage of the flat . Oh no , it will be a tough time for Manju alright . Fights with Vinod will intensify and this time she will be exposed as there is no Sulochana to cover up for her . Vinod too will see how inept his wife is to live independently . Rasika will come and go and Vinod will lose his mental peace and one day will walk out on Manju and go back to his old home . Not just that , I think Vinod will overhear Manju and Rasika talking . I think this is where the serial is headed to .

This is what I was thinking as well. This moving out will come as more of a lesson to Manjusha than it will as a luxury.
I get why Sulochana was upset earlier, I would have been more suprised had she been chilled out and responded with something similar to, "Kay, peace out, keep yo swag on." It was a very unexpected scenario for her, as she tried her hardest to keep Manjusha happy, often sacrificing her own daughters' happiness to do so. I think in the future she will just settle at the fact that there are two likely outcomes of this, 1) Vinod is happy with his new life, which Sulochana would suffice with, as atleast her son is happy or 2) Vinod will learn a lesson and realize the value of being with his family and will come back. I'm thinking that the 2nd seems more likely, otherwise they wouldn't really show this track.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: toothbrush13

This is what I was thinking as well. This moving out will come as more of a lesson to Manjusha than it will as a luxury.
I get why Sulochana was upset earlier, I would have been more suprised had she been chilled out and responded with something similar to, "Kay, peace out, keep yo swag on." It was a very unexpected scenario for her, as she tried her hardest to keep Manjusha happy, often sacrificing her own daughters' happiness to do so. I think in the future she will just settle at the fact that there are two likely outcomes of this, 1) Vinod is happy with his new life, which Sulochana would suffice with, as atleast her son is happy or 2) Vinod will learn a lesson and realize the value of being with his family and will come back. I'm thinking that the 2nd seems more likely, otherwise they wouldn't really show this track.

Precisely . Sulochana is an amazing mother in law . Unfortunately so many on the forum dislike her coz they believe that she has been a major hindrance in Archu Manav 's milan that they dont do justice to her in her role of a mother in law to Manju . They only view her as Manav's mother in law most of the time .
She is immensely respectful , loving , fair to Manju as a mother in law . We see her shushing her own daughters from time to time when they point out Manju's faults , not joining them or even showing the least interest in extracting more information or indulging in gossip like most mother in laws would do with their on daughters ...........a perfectly natural scenario in the world all over , especially India . Savita tried to break up her son's getting together with her bahu from day one..........Sulochana does everyhing she can to keep her son's marraige with Manju intact ..............including shielding her when she was found red handedly guilty in switching the necklaces thing . She treats Manju like a daughter ........gives her readymade dabbas in her hand as she leaves for office .
Most mother in laws in India would give this treament to their bahus if the bahu was contributing fairly to the household expenses . The readymade dabbas in hand r not phookat ............that kind of treatment , like all other practical things , comes with a price . Infact there r quite some mother in laws who have this attitude that so big deal , ur doing job , come home and cook too , what wud u have done if we were not alive , we r old now , we did our responsibilities and looked after our children now shud we tire out our old bones looking after your children too , is this our age ? Had we been dead wudnt u manage the cooking ? R u saying you will look after us in our old age only if we cook and look after ur child ? It is our time to retire , read newspapers , go in the afternoon to our retirement clubs , and eat a readymade meal .........not vice versa . And do not forget , the house is in our name , the son we gave u as ur husband did not fall from the sky but was raised and educated by us . Ur doing job so others shud do all other things for u ...........from where is this even coming ? Ur contributing half to the monthly expenses ............that is what you r supposed to do ..........we did it for many many years ! Besides my daughters r chipping in too . Otherwise , when we die we will see to it that even daughters get equal share in the money when this flat is sold . So dont throw your job in our faces please .
This attitude wud be given to a bahu by most middle class mother in laws in suburban Maharashtrian families today if the daughter in law was like Manju . If 60% are cooking , looking after grandchildren etc , it is because the bahu contributes to the household expenses and lifts the financial load from their son's shoulders ............so this tacit understanding is there , that u do job , I will manage here . Manju lives phookat there and even objects to Vinod spending money . On one hand , Rasika teaches her that the house belongs totally to u after ur saas sasur's death ...........it is ur haq , ur right . Arre , on what basis right yaar ? KUch responsibility toh leti nahi as a bahu Manjusha . Then on this basis , why shudnt the daughters get an equal share when the property is sold after their death ? Varsha too is contributing and Archana contributed by slogging like servant in house and handing dabbas to sisters and brother for years..............a thankless , never ending , highly undervalued contribution . If a bai is kept for these jobs how much will she charge ? Besides that , they want equal bonuses of full salary etc in Mumbai nowadays during Diwali time , and a month long full paid vacation in May when they go to their native villages . On the top of it , these kaamwaali bais give attitude .........they dont like their cooking criticised , use oil and sugar liberally and waste it , sometimes pilfer things and what not .
In this sense , Manju had a wonderful marital life uptill now , with extremely decent saas sasur and docile sister in laws who handed her teas and dabbas . Manju was pampered by her in laws . Now when she lives seperately she will pay mortgage , servant salaries , the house wont be spick and span and lot of problems will be there . Punni wont get so much love from day care or servants . One has to , at a certain point , inspite of having marital tiff with in laws , think deeply and weigh how much one is getting and how much one is losing or may lose with the decision to move out . Moving out sounds fun but it is hard work . Varsha learnt her lesson the hard way , so will Manju . Varsha hadn't known that there r predatory men in the office world and ' friends' who drop u like a hot potato once their purpose is served . Parents may be out dated but they have seen the world and so some rules and boundaries r set , so their children shud not fall in danger ..........Varsha didnt know that . Manju too will learn a very bitter lesson . In fact I hope they show us that all her savings r depleted ..............she had constantly used Punni Punni Punni as an excuse to be extremely selfish . Not just that , since Rasika will come with a righteous attitude to live with her daughter now as she has loaned some of the money to her daughter for the flat , Vinod will hear some conversations between mother and daughter and will be shocked to hear some ugly truths . He is going to first fall for his wife's schemes , then realise the truth and return home as an unhappy , wisened guy .
Initially we may see Manju and rasika acting uppity with the Karanjkars ..........we may see an emergency where money is needed by parents but Manju doesnt even relay message to Vinod and Sulochana remembers Savita's curse of losing a son . Something on that line . Then , the scenarrio will slowly change and Manju's winning streak will be over .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In such a case it is my opinion that the parents shud just let the son go , realising he has grown up and his life has started .

Whether his wife is right or wrong is not the issue here . The real fact is the parent's' role in their sons life is over .............he is learning to stand on his own in the world and has a blood family of his own and needs to branch out . This is how it always was.........even in the animal kingdom .


What remains is his responsibilities towards his parents......seeing to it that till the end they do not lack for food or medical attentiion . The emotional part varies with everyone according to their individual upbringing . Sometimes the emotional bonding is so strong that inspite of living seperately till the end that bond remains . Sometimes , duties r done , but emotionally the son outgrows his parents and bluntly finds more pleasure in his wife's company , his own children and sometimes even the wife's family whom he finds attractive for various reasons of his own . Like for instance , if his own parents r too strict , too traditional , too rigid and the wife's parents r more fun loving , jolly , modern in their outlook , if he can joke around with his brother in laws and sister in laws ..........he will simply not miss his own family as such . Each relation in this world is outgrown at some point or the other is the sad but true fact of life .


Manjusha is an extremely selfish and scheming individual who is totally under her mother's thumb . The family is not good..........just like there is a bad apple in an apple basket , there r some families who r just simply bad , and Manjusha's family is like that . They r bad blood ,pure and simple . Rasika , Ajit and Manjusha destroy innocents simply for the sake of it . The way Manjusha laughs silently ,covering her mouth is simply disgusting and shows what a petty , small minded woman she is . She goes scot free in this serial .........Like Manav commented that what diffrence does it make now when Varsha tells him that Archana did not do the complaint , similiarly a lot of Manjusha's wrong doings simply wont make a diffrence even if they r eventually pointed out as with the passage of time they will lose significance .



As a bahu she is selfish too ..........she uses her job as an excuse to shirk housework . She uses her daughter Punni as an excuse to extract maximum for herself .............by not contributing to the household expenses , or any event , and evades respobnsibility . But she does know how to extract the benefits of a joint family ..........free readymade dabbas of home food , readymade meals , no expenses and using salary for personal expenses only , and using daughter as an asset which she dangles before her aged saas sasur to shirk every work and responsibility .


She is lucky to get good saas sasurs . Her sister in laws r comparatively insipid and harmless compared to some real bitchy nanands in this world . Even Varsha hasnt really harmed her marraige with Vinod by telling him some horrible home truths about his seemingly goofy wife . Varsha's tiffs with her r really useless ones . In fact Manjusha has harmed Varsha more than vice versa . When Manju tells tales it hits the mark ..........She got Varsha thrown out of Vinods good books and Sulochana slapped her . Manju's politics gets RESULTS . Varsha's tiffs r nothing but getting the last word in an argument that only gets some ego satisfaction .


I waited to see if Varsha will expose Manju for what she is in a public event and get her slapped by Vinod and thrown out of the house forever . If at all a divorce is shown in PR I wanna see it between Manju and Vinod with him winning full custody of Punni . I want Varsha to gain this satisfaction as Manju WRECKED Manav and Archanas Life .


Maybe i went off topic .....but this was what came to my mind . Manju has every right as a bahu to move out , but i dont think she will excel as a wife , in house keeping skills , or even as a mother . Frankly i dont know what kind of a love marraige she even has with Vinod as she puts herself before him in every little or big thing . Manju loves herself more than her feelings for Vinod . In that sense , although i finf nothing wrong with her moving out decision , I dont see it as a wise move either as she is extremely inept to live independently .





Kools you and I think alike...our opinions are always the same, the difference is that you express them, whereas I depend on you to express them 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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For a south asian mother,its very hard to accept that her (married)son will leave her.She always wants to have her son around.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Seriously, kids moving out is not even an issue these days. Plus, it gives time to Sulochana to handle her daughter's lives better with a vamp absent from scene. She can concentrate on 2 gals (archi's kiddo siblings) and get them married. That leaves enough time for Archi and Manny's relationship to heal. She then initiates the same Pavitra Rishta or watever.
From other point of view, let Manju fall on her face. Let her cook and clean and lok after the kid. Let her realize her follies. It gives Vinod a chance to know his wifey better.
From practical view, common guys. there are like a dozen people in that house (sulochana her self is equal to 3 when it comes to melodrama).let eveyr one have some space and sanity.
Vinod get your wife out of your parents home and gvie you parents some LIFE.

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