Did the director undo New Moon?

Alright, I am not much of a fan of the Twilight series. However, today someone brought up an interesting point to me.

While I may not like the series, when I saw Twilight I thought the cast could not have been better. Robert Pattison seemed dreamy as Edward and the entire Cullen clan was gorgeous. I even had to admit there was something to Bella and Edward's obsessive romanticism.

However, most people I know were disappointed with Edward in New Moon. Many felt as a movie New Moon was better, especially the visual effects and thrills. But Edward seemed more like some junkie freak and the sweeping magic of Bella Edward's romantic connection was missing.

Twilight was directed by Catherine Hardiwicke. New Moon was directed by Chris Weitz. A friend suggested that being a female director Hardwicke was able to capture the beauty and essence of Edward and the Bella/Edward romance better. Weitz on the other hand does great with the buff more masculine Quileute werewolves and Jacob but is unable to capture the romantic aspect of Bella/Edward or do Edward and his looks justice.

What do people have to say on this? I'm curious what some of the fans think? Is there anything to this theory?

I actually think people found too less of Bella/Edward romance, or rather found it too dull more so because of the storyline than of the director's cut! I mean it's so not necessary for a director to be a female in order to capture a more romantic aspect of the storyline than a male director. Come on, we've so had some of the greatest romantic movies directed by males, or am I mistaken about Adam Shankman? 😆


Coming back to New Moon, I feel the Jacob-Bella storyline, having taken way too much footage, has lessened the impact of the Edward-Bella plot the fans first saw in Twilight. It's a bit like, when Twilight first came out, girls were crazy behind Edward Cullen/ Robert Pattison and suddenly, in less than one year or so, half of the same girls shout for Jacob Black/Taylor Lautner. I think it's more that than anything else. I felt exactly the same thing between Edward-Bella when I watched the movie. The only thing is, I didn't like it then, I didn't like it now either!


I think a woman perhaps understands the depth of loving someone when the odds are so strong, like in Bella's case. But I certainly far from believe that she can portray romance better than man. Come to think of it, men have proven to be more romantic than women in many cases! 😉


Somehow, I feel it's just the hype of Bella-Jacob, what's more is that people are loving them together, on and off-screen. Obvious it's going to affect the craze behind the other couple!


I am no fan of Twilight, but I simply love Taylor Lautner and I really appreciate Jacob's character. Thank God people are realizing who's the better man out of the two.. 😆

Both Hardiwicke and Weitz have done a commendable job in condensing the books and bringing the story to life. Talking about TW, there are a bunch of stuffs that the movie has captured perfectly. To begin with, the weather of Forks was very well illustrated. The way Meyer goes on and on about Edward's out of the world beauty, glimmering eyes, mesmerizing voice, marble-like skin that sparkles in the sun, perfectly-built physique, frequent mutterings, painful resistance against Bella, etc in the book, it's almost impossible to concentrate those God knows how many unbelievable and cheesy qualities mentioned in the book into a human. Edward's characterization was excellent. I was hecka surprised the first time I watched TW coz Edward was exactly the way I had imagined and was totally up to par. Edward and Bella's unconditional and obsessive love for one another could be felt throughout the movie.

I thought TW did a good job portraying Bella as well, considering that she's described as a reserved, delicate, pale-skinned, clumsy, vulnerable girl who hates Forks, isn't very much comfy being the center of attraction and likes to remain unnoticed by people.

Irrespective of the gender of the two directors, TW was the first attempt to bring the characters in the book to life. I wouldn't say it was perfect. There were some parts where it required more polishing. So, obviously the director of NM should've been able to take those flaws into account and work on making the second attempt even better and he actually did for the most part. What TW couldn't capture well enough was actually captured by NM perfectly. The general wardrobe, make-up and visual effects were better in NM. Needless to mention Jacob's portrayal in the movie. I thought NM was a complete somersault for Jacob. I would anyday prefer the wolfboy in NM to the Jacob that hardly had much footage in TW. But then, he almost replaces Edward in Bella's life in NM. So, it's a given that Jacob has the lead role in this particular movie even though the main character is still Edward on the whole.

Agreed that NM is supposed to be the darkest phase in Bella-Edward's relationship and Jacob was like a filler in Bella's life when Edward was gone for a while. But that doesn't mean they should've tossed Edward aside in the movie. NM couldn't preserve Edward's character. The least they could've done was to carry the tradition and keep the character unchanged if they couldn't make it any better. To me, Edward in NM was a huge disappointment. Just take Edward's belly hair for example. Jesus! His skin is supposed to be all that plain, marble like and smooth, rite? And what was up with his gloomy and high on crack kind of expression throughout the movie? NM's depiction of Edward totally sent all of those heavily embellished, out of the world, cheesy descriptions down the pipe.

The two movies speak for themselves when it comes to explaining how male and female modes differ. The series was written by Stephanie Meyer, a female. So, that might be one of the reasons why a female was able to do more justice with Edward's character that is supposed to appeal the female mass. It's apparent that the female director of TW is more inclined to bring forward the deep seated and emotional aspects of the book unlike the male director of NM who is more into visual and masculine aspects of the book. Not saying that Weitz failed to depict the lovey-dovey stuffs between Edward and Bella in NM but Hardwicke was just a lot better in that department. Weitz did a good job with human to werewolf transformation, Edward's reflections, the mopey tone of the movie, and above all, Jacob. Jacob is such a piece of eye-candy in the movie. "droooools"....Also, I felt that Jacob-Bella relationship was a lot less cheesy and a lot more pragmatic than Edward-Bella relationship. Perhaps that is also coz the movie was in a male's hand this time.

Woah middy!

I dont think ive ever seen you write sooooooo much! 😆😆

Its too late here to share my points RTH, later.....

Good night middy 😳!, LOL.....around 16 or so hours ago, i was saying good night to you and now its good night for me 😆....

Xoxo

Originally posted by: the_Naked_face

Woah middy!

I dont think ive ever seen you write sooooooo much! 😆😆

Its too late here to share my points RTH, later.....

Good night middy 😳!, LOL.....around 16 or so hours ago, i was saying good night to you and now its good night for me 😆....

Xoxo

LOL! yeah, this is my first time. I was like WOAH at myself ..i just went on and on without realizing that it would come out that long.😆
Alright....g'nite, girlfren😳....sleep well.

😆

Hmm, I think that's an interesting point, and it could have something to do with the director. However, I don't think its particularly gender that sets them apart. In the end, they are simply two different individuals, with two different minds, and with two different interpretations.

I agree, Edward looked awful in this movie, but IMO, he looked pretty bad in the first one as well. Meyers, though a horrible writer, gives a pretty elaborate description of what Edward's supposed to look like. I'm not just talking about his looks, of which Robert Pattinson obviously falls short, but I'm talking more of even his behavior. The way he acts around Bella, there's something to it. That, to this day, I do not think either director has properly captured. It could have something to do with the whole difficulty in transforming a book into a movie in its entirety, but I think at least the character's should be interpreted with great scrutiny.

And above all of this, why does everyone forget that Team Edward is supposed to hate New Moon? Edward is the bad guy in New Moon, he's supposed to be given less coverage. Jacob is supposed to be the big deal in the book. And although the director captured that part accurately, the movie forgets that in the end of not only the book, but also the series, it is Edward that is still the angel. You're still supposed to love Edward at the end, but unlike the book, the movie forgets to do that. I think most of those who haven't read the book are left wondering why Bella is stupid enough to go back to Edward when Jacob is perfect. The movie totally forgets to focus at the fact that Edward left Bella not for selfish reasons, but for her own sake.

Anyways, I think that unlike all the book to movie transformations, the Twilight series, for some reason aims at only the fans who've actually read the books. Unlike, for example, the Harry Potter movies, which you can watch without having read the books and still enjoy it, I think the Twilight movies are hard to not only enjoy but also understand without having read the books. Meyers' writing may be weak, but I don't think her plot is as weak as the movies make it out to be.

So which team would you be Anju then? Edward or Jacob? And why? (Note: I solely mean Edward/Jacob and NOT Robert/Taylor at all... Because in the later case, it would be too obvious!! 😆)


Also, I think HP's a better success in any age group because exactly the first reason you talked of in Twilight. Because HP, books or movies, explains the characters in its totality, or at least to the best possible! What Harry feels, what Ron feels, what Hermione, Draco, Dumbledore feel individually and respectively. Those once in while scenes showing nothing but the expressions on the faces of those individuals. Whereas Twilight and New Moon BOTH don't have those. I think Kristen's grown as an actor, but Robert, not really too much! Many times in the movie there are expressions that just don't match! Though sometimes a character is successful because of the actor who plays it whereas other times its vice versa. I think in Twilight's case, Robert became successful because he played Edward, whereas Jacob became successful because he was being played by Taylor.

Originally posted by: sneha0601

So which team would you be Anju then? Edward or Jacob? And why? (Note: I solely mean Edward/Jacob and NOT Robert/Taylor at all... Because in the later case, it would be too obvious!! 😆)

Team Edward. (Except when Jacob is shirtless)


Just kidding. 🤣 I don't know, I'm more of a Team Jacob fan. I liked Edward in Twilight, but I don't know, there was something missing there. When Jacob came along, he seemed so much more real, so much more emotional, and he was adorable. I hate how perfect Edward is, it annoys me to no end. But i also don't know think that Jacob and Bella could be together. Bella and Edward deserve each other too much. 😆

Originally posted by: Midnight_Shade

LOL! yeah, this is my first time. I was like WOAH at myself ..i just went on and on without realizing that it would come out that long.😆
Alright....g'nite, girlfren😳....sleep well.

😆

Haha I knew that something to do with Twilight would get the two of you posting more on DM. 😆