wtf -- 09 nov '09 :-D

1. that ashlesha has been tutoring her that prem juneja is her father all her life. that means that she has been preparing for this for a really long time. but that didn't really make sense -- 'cause wouldn't it have been easier for ashlesha to get to prem if heer wasn't in the picture?? this line of thinking has more puzzles than solutions, imho.
2. that ashlesha got the plan together only recently. that she got the little kid trained to recognise prem from photographs, and to watch out for prem. in fact, she probably got trained to recognise phukda as well. after all, as the principal kept saying, ''she is a breeeeeeeliant student.'' 🤣🤣 so she's probably able to do everything that ashlesha wants perfectly... 🤣

• heer what she does best -- obsess about prem. 😆 and be a darling mother. she is seriously good at loving chahat. almost as good as she obsesses about prem.
• heer what doesn't do well at all -- scream ''prem!!!'' when she sees that he is in trouble! bwaaaahahahahahahahahaha!! remember when prem had called her at the accident site, and she first saw him? heer yelled ''prem''. hahahahahah! i could just see ag dying to laugh in that scene at the stooopidity of the script needing her to scream ''prem''. i agree with her -- at that point, heer should've just be running to the car to get prem into her arms asap.
• prem -- obsess about heer in an bordering-on-insane manner. when during prem's dream-sequence that heer is leaving when he tells her that sneha is his daugther, i fell over my chair hooting when prem said that sneha was his daughter -- and didn't say that ashlesha was the mother. until that point, no one knew that ashlesha is apparently sneha's mother. and i laughed 'cause if it was truly that prem told heer that he had a kid -- heer needn't think the kid is ashlesha's, no? then her reaction to leave as soon as possible would be justified -- this would be proof that prem is .. uh .. a flagrant womaniser? whatever, i found that entire dream sequence funny. primarily 'cause it showed up prem as such a duffer. i mean, since when has prem been such a loose-screw-in-the-head duffer? 🤣
  

• most thrilling thing -- glob, sliding on ghee and falling on her large bottom! bwaaaa... hahahahahahaha! did anyone notice how it took all the younger people to lift her up??! 🤣
• sweetest thing -- prem after his accident, sitting still in his bed, obediently doing every thing heer tells him to do, not saying a word. and all along, heer behaves telling him that she will never leave him, her fingers in his hair. i also liked when heer went to gi-it and told her that she knows what glob is doing, but that she wants gi-it to do as heer asks, and to leave. i thought it was sweet, even if a little dramatic.
• prem-heer-magic thing -- when jzoo finds that ashlesha is sneha's mother, post the little ball's accident *no, i do not have a typo there... 🤣*, prem and heer did their old familiar magic for a moment in that superb little pheyeoooh. it was a pity that the moment was based on prem think that he was the lord of .. uh.. fertility or s'thing. *i can say that, right? 🤣* and i must admit -- i didn't at all like how meher accused prem of not knowing that till the last moment. but prem and heer rocked that moment -- i totally loved how prem's eyes never left heer's face, not even for a second, no matter who was saying what. 😍
  
• phooooooh-est thing -- of course there has to be a separate phoooooh thing from a prem-heer-magical moment. 😆 'cause phooohs happen when they .. uh ... touch each other. ☺️ 'cmon, admit it! didn't you just go ooooooh, when heer all dressed for bed in a sunny yellow outfit cuddled a troubled-prem-in-white from the back, resting her chin in the curve of his shoulder, her cheek cuddling his ear? oh, that was soooooo oooooooh... 😍☺️*thud!*
• most awkward thing -- i would put each and every moment that had new harman in it 😆 but that would have been too general. 🤣 so i picked the moment when heer came to apologise to prem after the whole drama of jzoo finding out about ashlesha being sneha's mother. i was squirming along with prem as she apologised. and that would've been such a perfect moment to tell her about his fanciful idea that he was sneha's father. she was already feeling like a heel -- when better to hit them with fanciful ideas when they are on your side, no? unfortunately for prem, in this universe he has a nosy brother called new harman. 😡
  
• thing that i badly want out of this show -- heer's miles of bangles. 🤣 ha! you weren't expecting that, were you?😆 it was actually the safest to ask for. if i started with the real things i wanted out of this show -- ie, the characters 😆 -- i would have ended up with only prem and heer ... and maybe phukda on this show. 😆

Originally posted by: locman

can i but in?

Originally posted by: locman

fortunately i've not seen ash in her pre-leap appearances, so i was quite transfixed by her inability to stand up straight for long [invertebrate?]. and her penchant for talking o pictures, mirrors and even directly to us.

😆 no, no, ashlesha was quite cute (comparitively) in her earlier pre-tls avatar. she used to be a witch with a penchant for tormenting meher. but by and large, she was a mean-go-lucky kinda gal, as long as there was easy access to money and servants. ashlesha post-tls is trying to fill her mother's shoes -- and failing miserably. and ya, her mother used to talk to pictures, mirrors and almost always directly to us! 🤣

Estee, did you say heer is a good mother?

i thought she forgot to take chahat to school again and was chatting to best pal geet, whom she had thrown out recently, asking her to come back. it was geet who asked after chahat and then *ding*, heer remembers she has to take chahat.

i guess i'm always getting the specifics wrong. maybe i mean a lovely mother, rather than a good mother by the definition of the standard things mothers are supposed to do. in every single interaction between her and phukda, heer has been loving, motherly, like a best-friend-mother who her daughter adores. it's more that than the action of her picking phukda up from school or ironing her school dress or making sure she eats her breakfast that i picked up on. i love how phukda loves heer -- and vice-versa. that's what makes me think heer is a lovely mother.

heer is prem-obsessed?

there's psycho ash, just moved in and giving prem the jitters but heer couldn't care less. she's out shopping with chahat and prem despearately tells her to hurry home. no i think heer now lives on a planet in another galaxy.

of course, heer is prem-obsessed. we are getting to see prem's reasons for being frantic -- unfortunately, heer doesn't have the same privilege. she knows s'thing is bothering him -- i'm hoping she's beginning to understand that it's got to do with ashlesha and sneha -- but ya, she is constantly worrying about him. as for the shopping with phukda thing -- er... she is also a mother. and prem may not be used to being second to phukda in heer's life, but i thought that heer spending some time with phukda -- on getting stuff for school, perhaps? i don't really remember -- is part of her being mother. to a certain extent, it falls to only her to nurture two individuals now: real-baby phukda and man-baby prem. now if prem would just be in her face about his jitters, i'm guessing heer would not come-across as so non-chalant. but i think she was totally spot on playing mommy to phukda in that last segment.

😲i missed the whole heer dressed in yellow, cuddling prem thing.😕

so thanks for pointing that out, i might watch it. is it really worth it?

oh, ya... 😍 and i can't believe you missed out on this! it might have been way in the beginning of the week before this one, though? remember, prem had just come back from seeing ashlesha-sneha together, and she tells him to come to bed, and he is all troubled? catch it. i'll go check to see if dimple/nans/mod-am khush has caps up at the premeer at... 😍

Originally posted by: tv star

estee🤗

😆 hey dimple! 🤗 was just about to saunter off to check the premeer-at for some caps of heer cuddling prem from the back with her chin on his shoulder, while in bed. but i thought i'd reply to your post first... 😆 do you have caps for this moment up?

yes u r right .....ash is saying that she wants to remove heer out of prem's life and that could be so easy when heer wasnt there in prems life....i mean she was always present in prem's life but not phsically!!

stoopid it is, no? i mean -- i am totally confused about what ashlesha wants. so either this whole ''get-that-heer-out'' is something that she has actually cooked recently with someone else. or it's just something that these half-pant-wearing creatives have half-baked as an attempt to spoof all the other times this track has been used to cause trouble on all the other saas-bahu shows that balaji telefilms has ever created. idiots. at least, they could put some decent effort into making it even half believeable! 😛

nd that sneha she is also getting very very confusing dont know what she wants......dont know weather ash has tourchered her or not

y'know? that's actually something to think about. i know that when small children are tormented by the only elders they know, they start treating them with a lot of love, doing anything for them. 'cause the kids think that it is their fault that the adults are angry with them and hurting them. so they try to be extra nice and do anything for the adult. it's quite miserable.

i had once thought that maybe sneha is phukda's (fraternal) twin, who is actually prem-heer's kid -- 'cause y'know, ram and sita had twins.

and ashlesha had kidnapped her soon after she was born. or maybe that heer had run into money trouble, when she was alone and having her babies. and that maybe (just like nihaal got stolen at the station) one of heer's babies got stolen. but then, heer would tell prem about it, no?

oh well. i have lots of fanciful ideas -- who knows what these half-pant-wearing creatives are going to give us instead... 😆

now! let me go find the premeer at... 😆

Originally posted by: locman

well thank you my sweet, i always bow to your final word on matters premeer 'coz really i'm sometimes quite clueless. 🤣 but i know i'll be set straight.