People will lose faith in God after seeing MKC

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Why did creatives make this serial ? What was the purpose behind it ? The posters say MATA KI CHOWKI.........KALYUG MEIN BHAKTI KI SHAKTI . So what was purpose in showing that Sheel Kumar wins ? What bhakti ki Shakti was shown ? It was shown that Vaishnavi does a lot of bhakti......but the goddess each time refers indiffrently to her fate . Yeh vidhi ka vidhaan tha is the Devi's favorite dialogue in this serial . Do people who r plagued by suffering , sickness , politics etc watch this show to get this same ghisa pita message .......that we have to suffer our karmas only and that God leaves us to our fate ? Why this character sketch of God ? A helpless God who watches from the skies and leaves us to our fate and says ....yehi vidhi ka vidhaan tha . Arre then why will common people pray to God ?
Look it is true that God is not our servant who shud constantly fulfil each wish of ours and eradicate all our bad karmas . We understand that perfectly as viewers . But watching a baby die .........watching Vaishnavi die ..........and Sheel kumar getting extension of life for another 20 years is ridiculous . Common people watch this serial to get hope to continue their prayers to VaishnoDevi and not leave then half way if their bhakti wavers in the middle . The strength of this serial shud be such that if people r thinking of giving up their prayers they shud not do so but continue it . Such hope shud be generated after watching the story . Otherwise all know that yes this is Kalyug and what is in the fate only happens . We dont need serials to tell us that........we need seriials to tell us that even fate is overridden if Mata Rani wishes........so strong is our MataRani and that strong shud be our trust in her .
The goddess in this serial is extremely beautiful but often laidback . It is my suggestion to creatives to show us the real power of VaishnoDEvi .

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree too but it is only a show right? I know it is wrong to see stories about our Gods/Goddesses that are made up, but still it was a good show, I'm sure they will make it so that Mata Rani wins in the end, maybe Sheel's Paap ka Ghara hasn't filled up totally yet?

😲 And have they already skipped 20 years?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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HI I totally endorse your opinion cent percent. You are very very very...................................................................correct. I feel we viewers are taken for granted. Be it a show or anything even a comedy has some truth revealed. Facts portrayed... but the creatives of these serials r just doing something with no reality or truth or even facts. God is Omnipotent & He is Almighty & no devil, no evil can reign supreme & the ppl shud b fed with the hope that God is there to help whoever calls on him in truth & goodness. I had given up seeing the serial. Sometimes i just browse the forum for comments. Eversince they showed Vaishnavi hurt that was my last. I quit seeing. Sorry to say sane heads will never see such serials anymore.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sattvik

I agree too but it is only a show right? I know it is wrong to see stories about our Gods/Goddesses that are made up, but still it was a good show, I'm sure they will make it so that Mata Rani wins in the end, maybe Sheel's Paap ka Ghara hasn't filled up totally yet?

😲 And have they already skipped 20 years?

I agree with you but not all will understand this that Sheel's Paap Ka ghara hasn't filled up yet and will think that bad has won over good
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: k-kimya

I agree with you but not all will understand this that Sheel's Paap Ka ghara hasn't filled up yet and will think that bad has won over good

Yesterday here in the US we saw the episode where Vaishnavi runs like mad , bleeding and pregnant in the rain..........and The Devi watches indiffrently from the skies saying vidhi ka vidhaan hai as usual [ only one dialogue the Devi knows ]. Not only that , she actually says Sorry Putri i cannot do anything .
The Asur Raj on the other hand has some very practical questions to ask the Devi.........how did ur vidhi do an about turn and how come ur not helping ur param bhakt Vaishnavi who did all this on ur saying ? The dEvi has no answer to this !
Vaishnavi bothered to go and try to kill her father in law coz the Devi demanded it of her ............or else Vaishnavi cud have continued living there ignoring his misdeeds and focussing on Vansh alone.........at least she wud have been alive ??? What the Devi did was lead her to her death and when things went wrong she simply withdrew her hand of support !
God never does this . It is his mahima that when u fall , full world will forsake but God will hold u and not let u fall . This nonsense shown in MKC is totally wrong . Fantasy serial or no..........this characterization of God is wrong .
Also what they r showing , Vaishnavi as a ghost...........didnt Mata Rani give her atma mukti ? that was the least she cud do seeing that Vaishnavi did so many senseless ordeals for her . in life too Vaishnavi suffred and after death she bevcame a ghost ...........is this what bhakti of Devi achieves ? Then why do that bhakti ?
Common people want hope ...........not evil winning over good . Even if Vaishnavi's child kills Sheel later , what happened to Vaishnavi can never be justified .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Your interpreting this whole thing wrong according to me!

If you don't fall, how will you ever learn, until you make a mistake, you won't learn is what is said, so of course God will let you make a mistake so that you learn for the future. God won't always show you the way in everything, I mean it in a good way, if God did that, why do we have the ability to think?

Also, Mata Rani has no control about the future anyways, she is bound by Vidhi like all other Gods. Our future has already been written - most say by Brahma Dev, so how can Mata Rani change it and go against Brahma Dev so many times? Isn't it unfair to all other Mata Rani bhakts if MR just helps Vaishnavi?

On top of it, of course the Asur Raj will make fun of Maa, what else can he do?

Vaishnavi has mukti, but she chose to stay with her baby, it's the least Mata Rani can do, so that Vaishnavi can take care of her baby while being dead - if you get me.

If you read all the stories, then Bad wins over good first, then good wins over bad, the Asurs take Swarg and then Maa/Vishnu/Ganesh/Shiv etc incarnate and go and kill the Asurs and restore peace.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sattvik

Your interpreting this whole thing wrong according to me!

If you don't fall, how will you ever learn, until you make a mistake, you won't learn is what is said, so of course God will let you make a mistake so that you learn for the future. God won't always show you the way in everything, I mean it in a good way, if God did that, why do we have the ability to think?

Also, Mata Rani has no control about the future anyways, she is bound by Vidhi like all other Gods. Our future has already been written - most say by Brahma Dev, so how can Mata Rani change it and go against Brahma Dev so many times? Isn't it unfair to all other Mata Rani bhakts if MR just helps Vaishnavi?

On top of it, of course the Asur Raj will make fun of Maa, what else can he do?

Vaishnavi has mukti, but she chose to stay with her baby, it's the least Mata Rani can do, so that Vaishnavi can take care of her baby while being dead - if you get me.

If you read all the stories, then Bad wins over good first, then good wins over bad, the Asurs take Swarg and then Maa/Vishnu/Ganesh/Shiv etc incarnate and go and kill the Asurs and restore peace.

Sattvik.........interesting post but wud like to add my two cents on this .
Yes ........vidhi isnt changed for normal human beings...........but it is changed for special human beings and the character of Vaishnavi as conocted by the creatives was special . It is clearly mentioned in mata ki Chowki summaries that Sheel kumar realises very quickly that his bahu is not normal .........but special . That she has the blessings of MR , that MR's hand is forever on her head . Our Puranas , mythological tales constantly tell us stories of Markandeya . Nachiketa , Savitri , ........the Karwa Chauth lady [ I forgot her name it is on the tip of my tongue ] who changed the effects of the karmic law [ vidhi ka vidhaan] by surrendering to God . Did this mean God loved other human beings less ?No . These humans changed their fate coz they had the power of bhakti and the heroine shown in this serial was special as she had access to even heaven to give exams ! The fact that she shud meet such a horrific end with no support from God is indeed strange .
Not only that ....what they showed was Sheel's vidhi changed..........Vaishnavi's didn't ?? That means fate does change , right ? Only funny thing was , an evil person's fate changed ...........good person succumbed to vidhi ka vidhaan ? So this argument that vidhi doesnt change for anyone was proven false by creatives themselves ! Sheel kUmar had a strong Mrityu Yoga...........and Mrityu Yoga isnt overturned that easily as all forces of nature controlled by God stop working for the one destined to die . It cud have been shown that Sheel tried to pull Vansh as a pathetic attempt to save himself but a strong gale literally loosened his grip and Vansh cud get away , therey knowing that his father dear is no saint ! Now thats vidhi ka vidhaan for u.........but they didnt show it . What they showed was Vaishnavi , who had no mrityu Yog . died instead of Sheel . Remember ..........one who has no mrityu yog , simply doesn't die . Somehow he is saved . In a plane crash all may be killed but one who has no Mrityu Yog lives ! So how come Vaishnavi dies ? Illogical . They can show logic in fantasy serials but obviously that wasnt the case here .
Yes Asur Raj can make fun of MR.......it is an ancient war between good and evil but MKC showed a scene in which Asur Raj overturns a bhiksha thali over MR's head and drops grains rudely on her . That was far too much........demons tremble to go near God and do all their boasting from afar [ they never go near ] as they cannot bear God's pure cosmic energy .
Letting Vaishnavi stay near baby as a ghost as ' the least that MR cud do for her ' is again debatable . Vaishnavi's bhakti shud be such that she shud know that MR will take care of baby . We r all excuses , real caretaker is God alone............once we go , still our children survive , dont they ? It is our ego that we feel that we alone can take care of our baby and our ghosts will later take care of them !
Bad .........represntated by Sheel had ruled for a long time already ............it was turn of good now . What they showed was after nine days of fasts and Mata ki Chowki , the results were disastrous..........fate didnt change a bit and it infact boomeranged ..........the death yog not in Vaishnavis kundali occured . She also died a horrific sad death . Whats more , after the death she is a ghost and the Pandit who for his whole life worshipped MR had no success on the night he yelled frantically to MR to help his daughter ..........years and years of worship yielded no protection from God .
Common people cling to the hope that their bad karmic effects can indeed be turned over by Vaishno Devi ..........it is their only hope . And yes , that climb to the mountain indeed does that . Those who dont have child get children , sicknesses r cured , wealth comes to the needy .......spiritual realisation comes to those who seek spiritual progress . For God is in the role of a Mother there........Mother , who never turns away her face from her children , however bad they have been . She will tussle with a thousand Brahmadevas and get for her children what they desire.........BRahmaDeva tw is ineffective in the Kaliyuga [ dunno why creatives even show him .]
So all i feel is after seeing this serial one shud say " JAI MATa DI !' ...........thats all .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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WOW! truly you are great KOOLSADHU 1000. You are wonderful,👏 in making clear the truth. You have laid bare the truth. I am amazed & hold greatest appreciation for yr comments. Very well expressed am very happy.😊😊😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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How do you know that Vaishnavi had no Mrityu Yog? Vaishnavi could have been destinded to die at that time in that way, Mata Rani might not have known (silly but it is something that can happen)

Vaishnavi knew that Mata Rani would look after her baby for her, but she still wanted to take care of the baby.

After all, this is only a show right, we can't really take it to heart as the channel might decide to pull the show off when ever they want!

And just to clarify, people go to so many mountains, not just Vaishno Devi, but Pavagadh and the Ambaji Mountain near Mount Abu etc and sitll don't get what they want, going to all these temples for getting children, curing sickness etc is wrong, its selfish!

Lets just hope Vansh goes to Yamraj to get Vaishnavi back 😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sattvik

How do you know that Vaishnavi had no Mrityu Yog? Vaishnavi could have been destinded to die at that time in that way, Mata Rani might not have known (silly but it is something that can happen)

Vaishnavi knew that Mata Rani would look after her baby for her, but she still wanted to take care of the baby.

After all, this is only a show right, we can't really take it to heart as the channel might decide to pull the show off when ever they want!

And just to clarify, people go to so many mountains, not just Vaishno Devi, but Pavagadh and the Ambaji Mountain near Mount Abu etc and sitll don't get what they want, going to all these temples for getting children, curing sickness etc is wrong, its selfish!

Lets just hope Vansh goes to Yamraj to get Vaishnavi back 😉

Well since we r talking of the serial...........nowhere were two other Mrityu Yogas mentioned in the serial.........Vaishnavi's and Vansh's . One Mrityu Yoga was specifically mentioned.......Sheel Kumar's . The Mrityu Yoga was mentioned so many times that it is shown that the Devi specifica;lly asked Vaishnavi to look it up . Nowhere do we see the Devi telling Vaishnavi that even u and Vansh have Mrityu Yog . So instead of asking me that how do I know Vaishnavi had no Mrityuyog ........it is a question u shud ask the creatives 😉...........coz simple viewers like us who watched this serial from the beginning simply assumed that since only one Mrityuyoga is being mentioned , naturally , the other two had none . Three Three Mrityuyogas in one episide sounds a little fantastic and far fetched to us viewers don't they ?😆
My dear , I am well aware that there r many mountains besides VaishnoDevi and that people do go there too . And I am well aware that not all of them get what they desire ..........which proves that somewhere , their faith lacks in overturning their past karma . And that is what these mountain or temple pilgrimages r all about ..........strengthening ur faith so much that ur past karmic effects ..........the bad ones , r overturned . This is the hope of mankind. If one looks around and sees 40 people whose fate didnt change but they succumbed to fate and sufferings , and then look at 5 people who were such devotees of god that somehow or other they were pulled out of crisis , then one will try to follow those 5 people , not those 40 people , and embark on a pilgrimage to ask for something very simple and materialistic.........like a child , or cure for a sickness , but while returning , they return much richer .........as their hearts r lit with the spark of devotion .
And sorry .......I dont agree with u that it is selfish to ask God for cure to our maladies . Everyone is not on a high spiritual plane that he is strong enough not to ask for these things ................only the immensely strong ones ask for devotion and self realization . The common folk ask for simple things only............there is nothing wrong about that as it is their first link with God just as a baby searches it 's mother to suckle for milk . Remember that all this asking is also done ultimately by god's will alone . When he wishes to be remembered he creates situations that makes us think of him . So when he doesn't denounce our demands from him as selfish but looks on indulgently and helps us on our spiritual journey , who r we to say that it is selfish etc etc ?
Anyways these r strictly my opinions.........needn't be urs . To Each his own .😊 Life taught me at this stage never to hold contempt for people who ask even the simplest things from God..........as all is his will only . And all I was trying to say [ and hoping creatives would read our posts] was that create serials that generate hope............dont destroy it . Remember very simple folk watch these serials . Help them with hope . since this was an open forum I voiced my opinion .
Vansh going to Yamraj is highly impossible .btw . But who knows.........since industrialist Sheel turned into a Devil Worshipper .........anything can happen . One thing is sure ........the creatives had a good thing going , they blew it .

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