PurplePantsuit thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#1
wtf stands for ''weekend thoughts forum''. and 'cause i've been taken all weekend driving up and down on freeways, this might turn out to be short. *whistling nonchalantly at all the disbelieving raised eyebrows around me as i start to write. 😆 actually along those roads, it was quite easy to slip into auto-pilot and wtf 'bout the show... hmmm!*

since most of the show over the last two weeks has been 'bout telling who the charaacters are just now, after the 6-year tls**, rather than the story of how they got there, i'm just gonna wtf the characters.

wtf#1: prem has become withdrawn, shut-down -- that we saw last week. but this week, we saw that he has also become... insecure? 'cause i seriously did not like prem walking away from heer after he yanked heer out of the dance party and told her that he still loves her. why did he tell her if he wasn't going to claim her for his own? i thought he decided to do it 'cause he saw that she was miserable at the dance -- and that she would walk away with him once she knew that he has always loved her, these six long years.

smits (sshekar) in a bt,lt said it was a sign of how much he loved her; to tell her how much he wants her for himself as always, but that he wishes her all the happiness in the world with someone else. what i couldn't figure is -- after everything that they have been through, how can prem imagine that this would've done anything other than make heer miserable?

and even after he finds out that heer is not getting married, he apparently accepts that she thinks she will never find love again, that after her trust in him is broken, she will never love anyone again -- why does he accept that that includes him? who she has loved ever since she was one/two years old?

how has prem become such a defeatist in all matters heer? 😔 all because of that one incident where he thought he slept with ashlesha??

but wow. chahat makes prem become kiddy. and smile. that sooo rocks...

wtf#2: heer, otoh, has become a bubbling, excitable extrovert -- that we saw last week. this week, we see that it's all a front -- that it doesn't take more than one meeting with prem to strip it all away and leave someone who is deeply unhappy.

worse, heer has become ... bitter about prem? she doesn't trust herself to stand strong against prem. but she so doesn't want to let him come back into her life! there is something deeply bitter and deeply afraid in her voice when she shrugged off the ''aunty-ji's'' question about what she was worried about. bitterness is such a sad thing to see in heer... 😔

it must've been a hard life! she probably had her daughter immediately after she left jzoo. she had left with nothing. with a new baby in hand, she came to delhi, nothing in hand, no-one she knew? and built herself and a life for her baby from scratch? man, i hope life was not that difficult!

*sigh* when are we going to get to see what happened six years ago? why has she become so difficult? why was there such real fear in her voice when she asked harman to please not tell prem about chahat? *''prem bhaiyya kay chahat'' -- why, oh why does that sound so darned sweet??? 😍* why was she willing to take on ''such sin'' of lying, of having harman lie to his brother -- just to keep the little one a secret from prem? even after she has heard and seen how desperate prem is for her, about her??! argh! when are we going to get to see what happened six years ago, darnit!??!

and man, i'm dying to see chahat make heer smile... i hope we get to see some real heer smiles soon.

wtf#3: what has happened to nihaal? why haven't we seen him yet? it has been six years -- time enough for nihaal to come out?

wtf#4: along with what happened six years to prem and heer, now i am curious to see what happened then to cause preet to become so stiff and hostile with his brothers.

at first, i thought preet was just extremely angry with prem. but he's as stiff with harman as well! and while he is still eager to please lj (lalit juneja), lj himself said that he hadn't spoken to his sons in six years. clearly, preet is successful in business -- he looks like he earns well. like prem, unlike harman. who else noticed how he was comfortable with the attendant take his suitcase, while harman preferred to carry his own luggage at the hotel? and yet, there is no pride that lj shows in any of his sons' achievements.

does this all go back to what made prem walk out of can-atta six years ago? or is it something else?

wtf#5: exactly what happened to make harman a house-husband? at the start of the show, we know harman was studying law -- in canada. then, they shifted to india and he was studying and taking his exams in india. then we were told he could take cases in india. later, we saw he was helping out in the hotel business in ludhiana.

and then boom! he's a house-husband with maya working. somehow all of us assumed that he didn't have a choice in that matter, no? that he was forced to stay at home?

hmm, either i was wrong -- has he chosen to stay at home? or had something happened to force him to be able to do nothing that he used to before -- either being a laywer or helping out with the business. hmmm. did he gamble and get into huge debts, or something?

gah! in any case, what happened to make ram-bharat-lakshman not talk with each other??! aaaargh! i want to know -- like now!

wtf#6: of kuldi, meher, maya, kuldi seems the one least affected by the past six years, no? she is the one that lj still talks to, who lj tolerates more than he tolerates gaali-maa. kiran-kuldi is a husband wife relationship that doesn't seem to have any cracks. she hates having returned to canatta. she is mother -- well, to at least two kids. hmmmm -- i wonder if something horrible happened to vikas, the eldest kid? i wonder if that was part of what happened to make them all leave india and return to canatta? *puzzled muh* hmmmm.

wtf#7: nothing new we have found out on meher and maya, no? except that they are staunch friends -- and that meher treats maya like she treats kuldi?

hmm. the sisters-in-law have a strong bond? i wonder if kuldi and maya are as close as maya-meher?

wtf#8: lj (lalit juneja) has left all connection with the hotel business -- was he forced to, or did he choose to? prem is the one who has built the 20-hotel business that they currently have. whereas earlier, lj used to have his fingers in all the projects they did.

and lj seems to have cut himself off from his sons. but not his grandkids. and ... not his sons' wives? not his daughter, for sure. and he clearly does not involve kiran in duties and responsibilities of his ''son''s. i wonder though -- does he talk with kiran?

and man! has lj cut himself off from gaali-maa! the only question is: for what reason? what happened that no-one -- not gaali-maa, not his kids -- can question or berate lj for not being cordial or close with gaali-maa?? has he told everyone that vitchface veera had aborted her own child? 'cause certainly gaali-maa was all over him, trying to act the dutiful wife. except that it looked like he couldn't stand her!

wtf#9: *sigh* i left gaali-maa for last, 'cause she was the one who really startled me the most last week.

'cause for some reason, i'd never imagined that after all this time, gaali-maa would still hate heer. but guess what? she does! the look on her face when lj jerks out of his nightmare saying ''heer!'' in that moment, she goes from a heavy-spirited mopey wife to a shifty-eyed, evil-mongering gementor! 🤢

she can't stand the thought that prem might even see heer, let alone meet her! despite all her moanings and groanings about how lj doesn't treat her like a human wife anymore, she doesn't seem to have understood -- or care! -- that a really large part of lj's life was about fulfiling his promise to his old friend. and that really became all about prem and heer being together. (once of course, the old hypocrite found out that prem's heer was also his heer. *sigh*)

she doesn't seem to understand - or even care! - that she is living among the ruins of a most beautiful set of brother-brother relationships. that she has herself helped to destroy. or some possibly wonderful sister-sister/sister-in-law relationships that she never gave a chance to live.

the only thing this woman obsesses about is prem now, no? for prem to remain within her grasp? no matter that prem today is no longer prem from before. she really doesn't care about prem the guy; all she cares about is owning prem.

*sigh* i wonder why? so that prem will never stop being a support to her -- today and till the day she dies? so now it's all just about her? 'cause prem to support vitchface in the future if gaali-maa is not around is no longer important, no? and she doesn't care that, in spirit, he is always far away from her? where's the happiness in having such a thing, i wonder? 😕

and before i feel nostalgic and sad that they might actually be trying to tell us that prem-heer-are-one was not strong enough in front of gaali-maa, i must remember that we don't yet know why it is that prem left india (and heer) to come to canatta.... waaaah! i so want to know why right now!!

wtf#10: and of course, one cannot forget little chahat.

y'know? i must admit -- they've got me again. i never could imagine the kind of mood swing about this show that i have had since the friday show. seriously. but this kid rocks.

one of the primary reasons is that prem with the kid is no longer the mopey insecure escapist guy we've had for the last one week! he is both engaged and engaging in a new way that we've never seen prem before -- prem-the-kid! 😆😍

and another reason is that the kid, brought up by herself by heer, is such a spunky, sparkly, seeking, aware little thing! and that she loves her mamma/mummy. *btw, it's really cool how they show the kid flip in and out of what she calls her mom. i think that's exactly what people do with mom's -- and they have a fixed name to call their fathers. isn't that weird? 😆*

chahat. y'know? in the ... thursday bt,lt, i mused out aloud whether this little kid is going to be like luv-kush of the ramayan, or like krishna of the mahabharat. certainly, her first meeting with prem is like luv-kush -- ram was running a yagna when luv-kush stopped the horse. ram's children challenge ram to a fight -- just like little chahat challenged prem. *although if prem was a leetle less childish, it need not have been such a challenge! 🤣*

but this is just the first episode with the kid. and methinks that by keeping gaali-maa's evil fires alive -- even without any vitchface pictures or diyas being shown yet -- they are trying to say that gaali-maa has become the evil kans. and that it will take a krishna to kill the evil spirit.

whatever the mode -- be it just chahat, or chahat+prem, or chahat+prem+heer -- i'm fiercely watching to see gaali-maa get killed. yes, i am! *fiercely!*

** tls: time-line-shift
*thinking of reserving the spot below for some prayer ... for some smiles!
should i?
should i not?
should i?
should i not?
hmmm....*

Created

Last reply

Replies

15

Views

1.2k

Users

9

Likes

37

Frequent Posters

PurplePantsuit thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#2
oh wtf! i mean, i'm reserving space for wtf, of course!

what else??! (you better not have thought it -- do you want to stand in the corner??!)

😆
Sweet_Kandy thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 16 years ago
#3
awww..very nice estee...👏👏 enjoyed reading it
ash08 thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Commentator Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#4
E,

Waiting for the smiles.

Every week when I read ur wtf, the first thought i get of wtf is.........
(going and standing in the corner now😆)

Gotta run. But agree with u. Awaiting the day when Chahat will take on gaali-mom.

Love,
Ash
she100 thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#5
well estee dear ,,,,nice workagain,,,,,,,,wtaever evry1's predictions n feelings,,,,,wat i m afraid ,,,,is missing of beautiful n lovely ,,,yet romantic,,,,,phanddhhhu,,,,,sigh,,,,,kiphh,,,,,,,double sigh,,,,,,,,,,,phingoli,,,,,,after the entry of chahat,,,,,,,,though she is so shweet cutee,,,,but still i m scared of heer being ignored,,,,,,may b,,,,may b not,,,,,or i m totally wrong,,,,,,,guys i hav noticed one more thing,,,,,,,don't u guys think that chahat is quite resemble with heer as well as prem,,,,,, but,,,,,,she talks like mehar n preet,,,,,,,,,,,,,but her nose is like her grand paa,,,,,,wat u say dear,,,,,,,,well keep couting,,,,,,,,,should i ,,,,,,should i not,,,,,
-.Priya.- thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 16 years ago
#6
awwww...its soo good estee...i loved reading it
Soaps1 thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 16 years ago
#7
About Prem may be insecurity is the right word or may be not i dunno ... he is so guilt ridden that when heer said how her vishvas her love of so many years was broken he couldn't do anything except bow his head down and walk away because he is the one who is responsible for it! If prem has become insecure about heer its quite understandable isn't it? He has lived six years in guilt, his family looks dow upon him, he too feels guilty and responsible for having lost Heer ... so what else can one expect!
Heer i dunno, i totally understand her being hurt by that one act of Prem ... but i am still unable to take the disgust with which she talked about Prem with that aunty ji ... there has to be more than that ashlesha thing for this behavior of hers don't you think so? And why oh why did heer hide about Chahat from Prem? I won't say much will wait and watch but i am afraid they may not show us what happened six years ago and Ashlesha thing might be the only reason
Chahat is cute and yea she does resemble both of them a bit 🤣
I too want to know what happened six years ago after Heer left with junejas to turn them all like this sighs but will we ever know? I have my doubts particularly after what they did during GS track, i highly doubt if they will give a good enough reason ... but then the shock in heer's eyes when Prem held her against the pillar and told her he had been waiting for her ever since she left him and always will ...
is giving me hope that there is more to it then heer having seen Ash in the bed ... one thing i ave always hated about the show is how they keep such answers hidden forever and once they reveal it as a viewers you feel cheated cause the explanasion is so stupid... hoping against hope they don't do it this time
Edited by Soaps1 - 16 years ago
shantaus thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#8

E - I love your Post.

can't wait for Prem-Chahat-Heer.
I have few questions that I PMed you.
soapsuds thumbnail
16th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#9
hi E!
Just wrote a reply in your 10th july bt lt and then realised that may be it should have really gone here. feeling to lazy to write another reply so just going to paste the whole thing here!
Besides his lj genes coming to fore when he was thinking about the mitti and his ansh and vansh, i thought that it showed how lonely and defeated prem feels. until now in his thoughts we have always heard prem waiting for heer even if it took a lifetime, confident that one day heer would return. but now prem expects to die alone....?...he has given up all hope...? i kinda felt sad and at the same time wanted to shake him! prem feels so burdened by guilt that he feels he has forfeited the right to just go and grab heer and never let her go which i am sure is what he would like to do (and which is what i wish he would do *sigh*) and instead feels that he must wait for her to come to him (does he now believes that may never happen??) !
i was glad it was harman rather then preet who saw heer because after the tls harman is a little softer towards prem than preet. preet would have commiserated with his bhabhi and bhaiyya be damned. so here's harman chance to finally be bharat. when i saw that the first thing i thought was finally, E will be happy that harman can get to be bharat!
gementor completely creeps me out and i have nothing to say about her. i have totally given her up (and to think that i used to love gayatri mom once upon a time!)
i so want to know the story about what happened 6 years ago. why does heer not want anyone in jzoo to know about chahat, especially Prem? why especially Prem? heer who told a lie.."jhoot maine bola hai"..? the same same heer about whom everyone and particularly prem always said "heer kabhi kuch galat nahi kar sakti"? so what made heer do it? a lot of people on the forum feel that there is no other story here other heer's hurt and bitterness over what happened that night.....but i dunno...i feel heer had to have had a strong reason...because heer was never the one to put her feelings above everyone else who mattered to her. i wrote about this in your last bt lt. don't know whether you read it. don't want to retype it so just going to copy paste it here (@red)
Originally posted by estee

Originally posted by KDHMDfan

But despite all this I still can't believe that the Heer of Prem-Heer-are-one would, let alone should, keep the knowledge of his child from Prem. I can't excuse that.

hmm... why is that inexcusable? if she truly believes that he is not hers anymore. that she has no relationship with him, why would this not be natural?

well, maybe heer thinks the same -- that prem is in love with someone else, and she thinks it's crass to bring up that there is a love-child of his and hers into his life just now.

I know Heer is very very hurt and stattered and not thinking straight (and i understand it ), but once there is a child in the picture it is no longer only about how painful it is for her and how hurt and betrayed she feels. Now there is much more at stake....no?? Beyond what Prem supposedly did and what Heer feels? And even believing what she does, this is heer we are are talking about, heer who knows Prem better than anyone else. It was a one night stand in drunken stupor. Surely she does not think Prem was having a relationship with Ash? This may be reason enough for Heer not to forgive Prem..she loves him but living with him as his wife... intimacy...after what she saw and believes....is unaccaptable to her. Thats fine. Its even ok for her to want to keep prem away to protect herself from further pain, but she knows Prem...she doesn't need to protect her child from prem...he would never do anything to harm his child...and doesn't he get any choice about being a part of his daughter's life.....prem would even perhaps stay away to not cause heer any further pain if that was what he believed heer really wanted (he is doing that now, inspite of his own miserey, isn't he?) but to deny him all knowledge?....a little harsh?....i don't know....Heer can make this choice for herself but can she solely choose this for her child and prem without giving them any say in it? UNLESS there is a lot more involved here that we don't know ( and I definitely feel that there is) and I am sure gaalima has a lot to do with it. So until we know the whole story and I am very much hoping that there is good story here that we don't know (not like the hole-in-the-heart), I am willing to w&w and reserve judgement and in the meantime continue to believe that heer has a very good reason for keeping Chahat from Prem (or else i would be disappointed).
i thought she was truly horrified when he grabbed her and told her he had never stopped loving her. i think that shocked her out of whatever she has been believing of prem just now? that prem is not happily settled into another life with another person. that he was being sincere at ambala station?
and i think (believe, hope, whatever you want to call it) she will tell prem 'bout their kid -- soon. once his message to her that he loves her has truly sunk in?

Even if she has believed otherwise (for whatever reason) all these years now she knows what prem feels and has always felt.....no?? so will she now willingly give them (prem and chahat) the chance she denied them ( i really hope heer does that) and make it happen or will it happen due to fate and circumstance and heer having no choice? w&w....

E, in the next episode Heer still doesn't want prem to know about his daughter...even now...even after his declaration that he has always loved her and always will. WHY? what is the story here. I want to know!!
but i am looking forward to w&w and enjoying having chahat around!
Edited by KDHMDfan - 16 years ago
Anhdara13 thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 16 years ago
#10
See, first I didn't think it, then I saw your reservation for the second part, and I thought it.

And I'm just waiting for the pooja. So this is my spot.

Love,
Radz

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".