If you had a gay relative ...

344471 thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#1
Note to the moderators and viewbie[s]: if any topic as such had been created in the past, or if you feel that this thread is not appropriate for the forum for any reason[s], then feel free to lock this one. I have searched for such a topic, but didn't come up with one, so I'm hoping this is the first one.

_____________________________


We've had/have a lot of discussion on the nature and science behind homosexuality in the past, however we did not have any thread on society's view towards homosexuality and homophobia, and our personal opinion on how it should be.

Ya know, just that day I heard from one of my friend that a kid of around fourteen-fifteen was kicked out of his house for being caught making out with his man servant. Now I don't know if there is any truth to this story (this might as well be a make up 'story' from my friends), however I think such things are constantly happening in the conservative society. So what's your take on it?

Many people are not compatible with the thought of premarital sex, and I think I can understand if a family decides to 'break up' with their son[s]/daughter[s] for having any premarital relation (owing to the fact that the members had gone against the guidelines set up by the family for years, and participated in such an act that they were fully prohibited and warned from doing). However, many families are breaking up with their son[s]/daughter[s] for being gay (in orientation; any action towards the people of same sex may or may not have happened). So, do you feel it is permissible and morally acceptable for the parent[s] or guardian[s] to punish, disown or break up with the gay member?

Remember it is not about homosexuality, but about homosexuals.

If you had a gay relative, and one day all of a sudden he came out to you, how would you have reacted to it?

Would you have:

-Punished him cruelly, that would have redeemed the 'terrible monster' that resides inside him
-Kicked him out of the house, disown him, and break any further communication with him for being such a 'filthy' human being
-Take him to a doctor/psychologist/psychiatrist to cure the 'disease'' he is suffering from, but accept him (the person) wholeheartedly.
-Accept him and let him live his life accordingly


Also, do you support the current attitude towards homosexuality in society? If you are living in any conservative country, then do you accept the intolerance of homosexuality/homosexuals and advocate the harsh punishment (varies from country to country; some says a few lashings and whippings would do the trick, while others uses imprisonment, fines, and some even goes a few steps ahead - capital punishment, like throwing down from a cliff top, or stoning down the person alive) used? Or do you feel a need to change them and the society's outlook and change this old and uncivilized laws? If you are living in a liberal and secularist country (where homosexuality is accepted), then do you support tolerance and acceptance towards homosexuality/homosexuals, and advocate gay marriage/union? Or do you feel a need to change them and the society's outlook and punish them for their deed?

Another thing, to the religious people: Do you view homophobia contrary to your belief system, i.e. do you feel homophobia being any different from racism, sexism or any sort of classing/grouping people into category and demeaning them for it? Do you feel God would be against such a behavior?

And to the non-religious: Do you see 'viewing homosexuality as a sin' (by non-religious) equivalent to homophobia?


_____________________________


So I hope by now everyone has got a proper understanding towards the thread and its subject: it's more about our and the society's outlook towards homosexuality than about the nature of it. Granted that both of them are inter-related and one is bound to come up into the discussion with the other.

Labib 😃
Edited by PhoeniXof_Hades - 16 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

81

Views

6.1k

Users

26

Likes

12

Frequent Posters

*Woh Ajnabee* thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#2
Good topic Labib, waiting to hear some nice responses. 😊
I hold my peace until then.
344471 thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#3

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Good topic Labib, waiting to hear some nice responses. 😊
I hold my peace until then.



But it was your response which is supposed to be 'nice' and I was anxious to hear about. 😉😆 [Hey no pun intended there]. I do hope Raj doesn't close this one. 😆😛
And thanks for the complement. 😳
hindu4lyf thumbnail
17th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 16 years ago
#4
I'm in a rush but I'll just post my views on this and i'll be honest.
If we had a gay relative then the distance between them and their family would be hugee. Forget having a gay relative, if we marry outside religion we'd get disowned end of! lol
Yeah i live in UK and apparently we have 'modern' views about it, forget Indians even the British haven't accepted it yet.
You should see the way people screwface when they hear about a new gay legalised marriage.
I don't blame them or anything, but I still feel slightly uncomfortable and i'm sorry if that makes me homophobic or whatever but I'm not used to it and I know one or two gay people and it'd be cool if they'd talk like a friend would but they just act really funny around me? Maybe that's just the people who I've seen. I wouldn't isolate them or not talk to them, but yea I'd feel weird and relatives would probably feel the same.
I hope I haven't offended anyone here, I just posted what I've felt during my personal experiences. :$
souro thumbnail
19th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 16 years ago
#5

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades



-Punished him cruelly, that would have redeemed the 'terrible monster' that resides inside him
-Kicked him out of the house, disown him, and break any further communication with him for being such a 'filthy' human being
-Take him to a doctor/psychologist/psychiatrist to cure the 'disease'' he is suffering from, but accept him (the person) wholeheartedly.
-Accept him and let him live his life accordingly


Also, do you support the current attitude towards homosexuality in society?



Who am I to punish him?? And even before that why should anyone punish him when it's just another act of nature. We all know that it's not some disease that will get cured by visiting a doctor and neither is it a crime that will go away if we make laws and punish them.
The only homosexual people who should be punished are those road side gay romeos who try to harass people. I seriously doubt if they are homosexual at all, most probably they just put on an act to harass others.

However, if I speak of reality then accepting a gay relative wholeheartedly may not be that easy too. The pressure from society can make people to keep their distance as much as possible from such relatives, even if they actually like the relative. Whether we support it or not societal pressure do force us to accept certain things.

413185 thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#6
hey its their life.. i dont find it natural, coz ppl were supposed to produce .. thats how life progresses rite.. then again some might feel that it controls overpopulation lol

personally i would feel comfy lol.. but with a gay man who sint my relative..then ewww
*Woh Ajnabee* thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades



But it was your response which is supposed to be 'nice' and I was anxious to hear about. 😉😆 [Hey no pun intended there]. I do hope Raj doesn't close this one. 😆😛
And thanks for the complement. 😳



Oh boy, I'm outta here - I knew you'd say something like that. 😆
But I don't know, I hate getting myself in these long debates where there's no end. Haven't we been down all these different roads already? Anyways, I'll put in my two cents later perhaps not that it matters or anything. 😆

Did Raj close the last one? I can't remember. Don't worry, SRGMP section is getting active again, all his worries and hopes are attached there .... hehe. 😆 Now, I'm outta here before he reads this and gives me his "I'm-disappointed-in-you" Akshaye Khanna glare. 😆😆

G2G to work!

return_to_hades thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 6
Posted: 16 years ago
#8
I follow the 'an it harm none do as thou wilt' principle. So yeah, gay, straight are all the same to me.

I firmly believe in equal rights in a legal sense that is marriage rights, employment rights and the right to having a meaningful relationship without being branded a criminal.

However, I do not think legal rights equate to social rights. Society is complex and people will form their own moral opinion. If a parent wants to disown a child, or if someone wants to ditch their best friend because that person happened to be 'gay'. It is absolutely a personal choice. It is upto people whether they want to accept such people in their family or social life. Not that I condone such behavior, in my opinion socially outcasting a person because they are gay is wrong, mean and unfair. But, I have to accept peoples choices in their personal matters.

In an ideal world homosexuals would have social and legal acceptance. In my opinion social acceptance is preferred though. People need friends and family, a court document and a well paying job can never fill a social void.
nuomi.riceball thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#9
pre-marital sex is now pretty much acceptable in the society of the world don't you think?? perhaps not in a conservative countries like in the south asian regions, some parts of southeast asian regions, but nonetheless it is pretty much acceptable. and about homosexuals, if a person or family in this case really truly care about the homosexuals don't you think they will accept that person despite whatever others say and how society will see it. homosexuals were actually pretty much embraced by the roman empire actually before it converted to christianity empire, it is only after christianity was embraced by roman empire do they see homosexuals and homosexuality as something different and something abnormal. if a person is a homosexual why do we have to mistreat them as long as they don't do something that disadvantage the society or harm other people.
Edited by rongna - 16 years ago
happe thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Engager Level 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 16 years ago
#10
I was discussing with my professor the concept of arranged marriage and in our discussion she asked me what will happen if someone in my family was homosexual or declared to be one and how would my family react to it. I told her it would probably be unacceptable in my family. However, if it was a far-off relative then I don't think my family will have any problem because after all everyone has the right to decide their sexual orientation.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".