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Posted: 16 years ago
#21
hi guys in a tamil ramayan movie in the 70's they also show that sitaji doing such virat. not sure its the same mentioned by sagars.
in tamil they showed that sitaji was interupted during the finish of the virat by hanumanji.he says that luv and kush arefighting their father ramji ,so sitaji without completing the virat rushes to the place where they were fighting to stop the war.they also showed that due to incompletion of the virat sitaji's life was in danger. don't know which one is true sagars or the other versions of ramayan.😕
did'nt see the episode.
thanks for the update Avinash bhaiya.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks for the update Avinash
and everyone for all detail...
No doubt the dream was very Funny specially ...
Devi aap kaun hai main aapko nhn janta
hey ram
Ramayan is moving very fast HI-Tech Speed...
Luv-KUsh disagree with ramjis decision of sending SItaji here
STill they are enjoying the Kavya ....
SItaji dint tried to convince them ...
My God Sitaji ending her life ... How cld it be possible ....

The time I saw Shatughan
First thought came was
Gaya Shatrughan , now waiting for Chandras long post and finally got ur detail post Chandra
and Agree with u completely....

Laxman himself adviced for the yagya and now taking Sitajis Side...
In this version
they showed Laxman many times against Ramji ....
Now waiting for the fantasy sahastra dal kamal



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Posted: 16 years ago
#23
Bharat's conquest of Gandhar and Shambuka's story should be shown. Yes Shambuka is a tricky issue but that is no excuse for the Sagars to shy away from showing it. Unlike many other things they've shown, this is something that is in the Valmiki text itself. So why avoid that issue?

As for versions, there are literally hundreds of different versions of the epic. So many different interpretations, so many different incidents. Fascinating stuff. 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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There are 2 reasons why it's not a good idea to show the Shambhuka story:

1. Its authenticity as a part of the orginal Ramayan is questionable. Same goes for the Kalapathi of Kalanjar dog story, as well as for the part near the end about K-L singing the balance of the Ramayan after watching their mother pass away.

2. More importantly, such a story, if shown, would need to be shown in the proper context of Shambhuka having divine ambitions of getting Indra's throne & power, not merely wanting to break out of a caste-constrained limitation, real or imagined. Given the way the Sagars have distorted so many messages, I don't trust them as being capable of this.

Bharat's conquest of Gandhara should be shown, as that was what started the transition of power from Rama to his nephews and sons, post the death of the 3 rajmatas (and presumably Sita's sisters). But if these guys are showing the script from Ananda Ramayan, I doubt that they'll show it that way. This is not to say that I don't want the conquest of Gandhara shown - I do. But then again, I wanted an authnetic Valmiki to be shown for this stretch of the serial, which they didn't follow.

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Authenticity does not appear to be a high priority for this show. Otherwise why include Jataka tales, Ahiravan/Mahiravan (which are later regional additions) and so on and so forth? 😆

Also, there is much even in the Valmiki text that is debatable in terms of authenticity. Volumes have been written debating various aspects of the epic back and forth. But that is an entirely separate issue and well beyond the scope of this serial. Sagars are about dragging shows for as long as possible, not good scripts.

Instead of serial makers arbitrarily taking one particular stance in these debates of authenticity, I'd like to see a complete adaptation of the Valmiki text (using as many versions of the Valmiki text as possible) from start to finish. Without bias or political correctness. That would be ideal. They can add a disclaimer that there are questions of authenticity on so and so part of the show. I mean, just for once I want to see the complete and purely Valmiki text on screen without additions or omissions.

Since there is no sign of a serial promising to do this, I guess we'll have to settle for the Sagars. I would like to see their take on it. I mean, after adding so many other things to the serial, it seems rather incomplete to leave this out.

Going back to the authenticity issue, I can think of another more radical approach: gather a group of academics (historians, anthropologists, etc) and attempt to reconstruct the original events that inspired all these legends, including the Valmiki version, stripping all supernatural/fantastical elements from the story. This would be more of a docudrama than a drama serial like the one we are watching right now. This kind of a show would be an ideal companion piece to my dream of an anthology program dealing with the different versions of the epic (I talked about that in another thread). However, I think that would be highly controversial and not very likely to be ever attempted. 😔
Edited by Kal El - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i loved the epi
thank u for d update

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks for the update Avinash.👍🏼
My problem with the epi is not it's "un-authenticity" when compared to Valmiki Ramayana, because I like other versions too. My problem is that the tid-bits from other versions the Sagars are using are not consistent and I really do not like how they're twisting the characters' personalities. I mean, Sita contemplating Suicide, Shatrughan showing disrespect to his Bhabhis, Bharat being outright rude, Lakshman not being very supportive, and Ram always looking angry?🤢 I especially despised the scene where Sita was contemplating suicide. And like someone said, someone had to remind her that she had two young children? Wasn't the point of her going to Valmiji's ashram, and not calling upon Mother Earth right after she was exiled (or left Ayodhya in this case), was so that she could bring up her children with full responsiblity and later on hand them over to their father? And it was very rare when Shri Ram became angry, so why is Ram in this serial always looking so temperamental? And like someone else pointed out, Bharat, Lakshman, and Shatrughan were always dignified and respectful.
I'm actually looking forward to when Ramayan ends. It's not sending a very good message to its audience, so unless the Sagars actually do correct research with the episodes they have left, there really is no point to this serial anymore.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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thanx 4 the udpate .......
loved the scene ...

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