29 May written - Sita's golden statue to be made

So K-L are gonna get sahastra dal kamal again ?! 😵

First things first - the above episode is total fiction - there was never any pressure on Rama to remarry, nor was there any such tension w/ Sita. She didn't need to do any severe penance, as depicted both in the previous serial as well as this one, and there wasn't the issue of Rama's vow to her - something never mentioned in the original Valmiki.

Now to this episode. As Akhl noted, the nightmare was horrendous, as was putting Sita through all that tension and pain - looks like sadism is an innate quality of the Sagars, masquerading as prayashchit and tapasya. If the original story is plain and straightforward, just insert some pain points.😡😡 So Sita goes through this trauma of anticipating that her husband will complete his foresaking her by re-marrying, and wonder what else is there to live for. 😡And then do some severe penances to ultimately split the earth, unlike in the original, where her purity was enough to pull that off without her going through all that extra effort.🤔

Also, the biggest problem with the argument about Rama taking a second wife. Let's for the moment assume that Rama did take such a vow, and that he was under pressure to re-marry. We've already seen how his rajdharm trumped his marriage vows to protect and shelter Sita, and his marriage vows were certainly more sacred than any ancillary gifts he gave to Sita in form of vows. 🤔🤔🤔If his marriage vows could be overriden by his rajdharm, then how could this vow of remaining monogamous have survived his rajdharm demands that he provide a wife for the yagna (aside from the statue option?)🤔

Now, re: the above episode, just following this storyline, wouldn't it have occured to Lakshman that suggesting an yagna would require the participation of the queen/wife? And if not to the impulsive Lakshman, at least to the more contemplative Bharat? But both gloss over it, and Kaushalya hits Rama with that discovery.🤔

The other thing that strikes me is the rudeness first of Bharat yesterday, and Shatrughan today. 😡😡😡Yesterday, when Rama was contemplating the idea of a Rajasuya yagna, Bharat was pretty hostile in his opposition to the idea, which wasn't such an adharmic idea at all in the first place. I thought that all 3 brothers worshipped Rama. 🤔

And today, when UMS are discussing Sita's predicament, Shatrughan barges in and rudely scolds them for doubting Rama's fairness in judgement (which anybody can argue was unfair to Sita). 😡Hello - has everybody forgotten that 2 of the queens there were Shatrughan's bhabis, and he could only have addressed Shrutakirti in such a tone? Either, they could have shown Bharat coming in and doing it, or have Shatrughan speak more civilly. Also, instead of holding up Rama's fairness, he could have held up Rama's dedication to raj-dharm, in which case he'd have been on more solid ground, since the thing that the sisters were discussing was the fairness to Sita.🤔

Also, one statement of Shrutakirti was not true. Taking a second wife was not always a Raghukul tradition. True, Dasharath and Sagar had >1 wife, but Raghu, Aja, Dileepa, Harishchandra, all were monogamous.🤔

All in all, today's was a crappy episode.😡😡😡

Exit question: is getting the sahastradal kamal (what's that - 1000 lotii?) any easier than getting the swarna-kamal???😈😈😈 What are these 2 kids - unpaid florists for hire???

Originally posted by: ananyacool

So K-L are gonna get sahastra dal kamal again ?! 😵

and Is there any vrat called Sanyog-karan vrat?😕 Its mentioned in the prev version too ...

I always thought that this 'vrat' was made up ,correct me if I'm wrong.

Akhl

See the Doubts & Discussions group. This time, they'd go to Ayodhya to get the flower(s?) in question. So I doubt rakshashas will be involved.😆

Unless Rama has Vibhishan guarding the place, in which K-L will need a Rakshasha defector to advise them on how to break thru😆

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

First things first - the above episode is total fiction - there was never any pressure on Rama to remarry, nor was there any such tension w/ Sita. She didn't need to do any severe penance, as depicted both in the previous serial as well as this one, and there wasn't the issue of Rama's vow to her - something never mentioned in the original Valmiki. Chandra, something keeps you always comparing this with the original. C'mon buddy - its no use... 😉

Now to this episode. As Akhl noted, the nightmare was horrendous, as was putting Sita through all that tension and pain - looks like sadism is an innate quality of the Sagars, masquerading as prayashchit and tapasya. If the original story is plain and straightforward, just insert some pain points.😡😡 So Sita goes through this trauma of anticipating that her husband will complete his foresaking her by re-marrying, and wonder what else is there to live for. (And be reminded by someone that she has two kids)😡And then do some severe penances to ultimately split the earth, unlike in the original, where her purity was enough to pull that off without her going through all that extra effort.🤔

Also, the biggest problem with the argument about Rama taking a second wife. Let's for the moment assume that Rama did take such a vow, and that he was under pressure to re-marry. We've already seen how his rajdharm trumped his marriage vows to protect and shelter Sita, and his marriage vows were certainly more sacred than any ancillary gifts he gave to Sita in form of vows. 🤔🤔🤔If his marriage vows could be overriden by his rajdharm, then how could this vow of remaining monogamous have survived his rajdharm demands that he provide a wife for the yagna (aside from the statue option?)🤔

Now, re: the above episode, just following this storyline, wouldn't it have occured to Lakshman that suggesting an yagna would require the participation of the queen/wife? And if not to the impulsive Lakshman, at least to the more contemplative Bharat? But both gloss over it, and Kaushalya hits Rama with that discovery.🤔Hey, when it wouldn't strike Vashishta himself, how do you expect it to hit Lakshman or Bharat. Looks like Kaushalya is the one who is fully aware of all the requirements of the procedure.

The other thing that strikes me is the rudeness first of Bharat yesterday, and Shatrughan today. 😡😡😡Yesterday, when Rama was contemplating the idea of a Rajasuya yagna, Bharat was pretty hostile in his opposition to the idea, which wasn't such an adharmic idea at all in the first place. I thought that all 3 brothers worshipped Rama. 🤔

And today, when UMS are discussing Sita's predicament, Shatrughan barges in and rudely scolds them for doubting Rama's fairness in judgement (which anybody can argue was unfair to Sita). 😡(One thing that surprises me is that it was Sita's decision to separate as shown in here. Then why does everyone blame Ram for banishing Sita?) Hello - has everybody forgotten that 2 of the queens there were Shatrughan's bhabis, and he could only have addressed Shrutakirti in such a tone? Agreed! Either, they could have shown Bharat coming in and doing it, or have Shatrughan speak more civilly. Also, instead of holding up Rama's fairness, he could have held up Rama's dedication to raj-dharm, in which case he'd have been on more solid ground, since the thing that the sisters were discussing was the fairness to Sita.🤔Btw, where did Shatrughan come from all of a sudden? Ram had stopped him from coming to Ayodhya after his victory bcoz he had to take care of things in Madhupuri. But now, preps have just started and Shatrughan apna bistar peti lekar aa gayaa dera daalne?

Also, one statement of Shrutakirti was not true. Taking a second wife was not always a Raghukul tradition. True, Dasharath and Sagar had >1 wife, but Raghu, Aja, Dileepa, Harishchandra, all were monogamous.🤔Right, she should have probably said "It is not against kshatriya dharm" or something like that.

All in all, today's was a crappy episode.😡😡😡

Exit question: is getting the sahastradal kamal (what's that - 1000 lotii?) any easier than getting the swarna-kamal???😈😈😈 What are these 2 kids - unpaid florists for hire??? 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆. Delivery guys.....

Chen2

The only reason I keep the original in mind is to avoid the pitfall of actually rendering any judgement on any of the characters based on the serial. It's a good way to keep the real picture in the background

Originally posted by: chen2chic