Universe and Lokas

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There are innumerable universes. All that we see is one universe. Like this, there are innumerable universes. And each universe has one Shankar, one Brahma, one Vishnu. So there are innumerable Shankars, innumerable Brahmas, innumerable Vishnus.

Devi Bhagwat Puran says, you can count the grains of sand on earth. But you can't count the number of universes there are in this Creation.

In each universe, there are different Lokas. Like, in this universe of ours, we are in Bhoo-Lok, the planet of ours. Below that, there are lower planes of existence, which we call the hellish planets, or Narak. and above there are 7 lokas which we usualy called swarga, but avove swarga there are more.

So, it is described that above our (1)Bhoo-Lok(Earth), there is
(2) Bhuvar Loka -Antariksha, the space between Earth and Sun
(3) Swarga Loka -the heaven world ruled by Indra; the space between Sun and the Pole Star
(4) Mahar Loka -the world of the Adepts who are coexistent with Brahma
(5) Jnana Loka -the world of celestial beings such as mind-born sons of Brahma
(6) Tapas Loka -the world of immortal ascetics, the Vairagis
(7) Satya Loka -the world of Brahma, the Supreme Deity

besides there is seven below own Bhoo-lok-Below that, there are lower planes of existence, which we call the hellish planets, or Narak or patala. Patala Lokas are the infernal regions, inhabited by Nagas, Daityas, Danavas, etc. They have been classified differently in different scriptures. According to Padma Purana, these infernal lokas are
(i)Patala -where dwell the Nagas under the rulership of Vasuki; where dwell the animal body of men and their material propensities
(ii) Mahatala -the abode of men's astral body; here reside the great serpents

(iii) Rasatala
the plane of passionate and lustful beings; where Daityas and Danavas dwell
(iv) Talatala -the clinging of lower Manas to the sentient and objective life; the realm of Maya
(v) Sutala -identification of man with his animal nature; the realm ruled by Bali
(vi) Vitala -the realm where animal nature in man is delinked from his higher nature; the realm ruled by a form of Shiva
(vii) Atala -the realm of perpetual state of torture.

To know more about Naraka- https://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1077531

And all of these together make one Universe. Like this, there are innumerable Universes.


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This is the description of Universe, This universe is also called material world, above material world there is Spiritual world. To understand this universe we have to start from the highest level and slowly come down to our material world.
The total material energy contains many universes, which float in a relatively small space in the unlimited spiritual sky. Each universe is shaped like an egg, the shell being made up of seven elemental layers, each ten times thicker than the previous one, beginning from the innermost.
Each universe contains millions of planets, situated within fourteen systems( as described previously), with earth in the middle region. The planets above the earth are realms of heavenly pleasure and are reached by souls who properly execute their religious duties as human beings on earth. The lower planets are places of darkness and are the destination of materialistic persons who reject the guidance of revealed scriptures.
The Vedas tell us that beyond the limited material world is the infinite spiritual world, the abode of Krishna and His expansions, and our original home as well. Everyone there is eternal and absorbed in ever-increasing happiness.The topmost planet in the spiritual realm is Goloka, Krishna's personal home. In Goloka the Lord lives like a simple cowherd boy, and His devotees serve Him with the sweetness of intimate personal relationships. Goloka is larger than all other spiritual planets combined and is far above them.When Krishna comes to this world He brings Goloka with Him, as He did 5,000 years ago, showing all the extraordinary, beautiful features of God's original home.The other planets in the spiritual world are called the Vaikuntha planets. Lord Krishna's expansions as four-armed Vishnu rule these planets like kings, worshiped in awe and reverence by innumerable devotees.All the spiritual planets float in what is called the brahmajyoti, the spiritual effulgence of the Lord's transcendental body. Within this unlimited brahmajyoti there are unlimited numbers of spiritual planets, as there are innumerable numbers of material planets within the sun rays of the material universes. These spiritual planets are dominated by plenary expansions of Lord Krisna, and the inhabitants there are ever-liberated living beings. They have bodily features like the Lord and are full of bliss, knowledge and eternal. The Lord is known there as Narayana and the planets are known as Vaikunthas.
Sometimes a spiritual cloud overtakes a corner of the spiritual sky of brahmajyoti, and the covered portion is called the mahat-tattva. The Lord, then, by His portion as Maha-Visnu, lies down in the water within the mahat-tattva. This water is called the Causal Ocean (karana-jala). As He sleeps within the Causal Ocean, innumerable universes are generated with His breathing. These floating universes are scattered all over the Causal Ocean. They stay during a breath of Maha-Visnu. In each and every universal globe the same Maha-Visnu enters again as Garbodhakasayi Visnu and lies there on the Garbha Ocean on the serpentine Sesa incarnation. From his navel-abdomen sprouts a lotus stem, and on the lotus, Brahma, the Lord of the universe, is born. Brahma creates all living beings of different shapes in terms of desires within the universe. He also creates the sun, moon, and other demigods. Maha vishnu further expands Himself as Ksirodakasayi Visnu, and enters everything--even into the minute atom. The sun is situated almost in the center of each and every universe, and it distributes profuse light and heat all over the universe. There are millions and billions of suns in all the millions and billions of universes within the mahat-tattva. The suns and moons are required within the universes because they are dark by nature. The Vedas instruct us to go out of the dark universes and reach the glowing effulgence, the brahmajyoti.

The brahmajyoti is due to the illuminating Vaikuntha planets, which need no sun or moon or power of electricity.

The entire material creation is only 1/4 of the entire creation of Krisna....the spiritual sky accounts for the other 3/4.

So there are innumerate universe consisting of innumerate brahma, vishnu and mahesh each for one universe. In each universe there is Garbha ocean where Garbodhakasayi Visnu and lies in shesh. but beyound all univese there is causal ocean where Mahavishnu lies down and above him There is Golok where Sri krishna resides , the highest of all places.


Edited by Rajnish_Kumar - 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

very well writtten

thanks Rajnish.


Thanks di⭐️
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Thanks Rajnish, great piece of info.👏
There's one Saket Dham where Ramji resides with Ma Sita eternally. Are "Dham" and "Lok" the same??
Also do you know about Atlantis?? It has something to do with Atala lok and Sutala.
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Originally posted by: ananyacool

Thanks Rajnish, great piece of info.👏

There's one Saket Dham where Ramji resides with Ma Sita eternally. Are "Dham" and "Lok" the same??
Also do you know about Atlantis?? It has something to do with Atala lok and Sutala.


Thanks ananya for reminding me about saket dham, yes lok and dham are same but spiritual lokas are called dham, generally we call golok, vaikuntha lok and saket dham, Few people belives saket, vaikunth and golok combined as vaikunth. few things i want to add here causal ocean is also called Viraj river and mahavishnu who resides there are also called Maha Virat ,Karanodakshayi and Karanavasayi Vishnu. also Garbodhak ocean which is insides each universe is at the bottom of universe and Garbhodakshayi Vishnu who resides there is also called Lord Laghu Virat who lives there on Sheshnag and with Laxmi. beside there is Ksheer Sagar (ocean of milk) where Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu lives with Laxmi on Shesh Nag. When gods go to pray to Him, then they do so from the shore of the ocean or from an island called Shvet Dvip inside this ocean. Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu comes out of the ocean on hearing their prayers.
and pleace post about Atlantis , i have no idea what you are talking here😊

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Spiritual lok is usually called as dham. A sacred place is also called as dham.
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Yes, Ram and Sita live eternally in Saket.😊 Likewise, Krishna and Radha live eternally in Golok.😊

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Originally posted by: akhl

Spiritual lok is usually called as dham. A sacred place is also called as dham.


thanks avi for differentiating between lok and dham😊
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Originally posted by: akhl

Yes, Ram and Sita live eternally in Saket.😊 Likewise, Krishna and Radha live eternally in Golok.😊


yes😛 , these dhams has been described beautifully. i want to explain it here😊

Golok
- In the Srimad bahagwatam ( the best available link online by sirla prabhupada, fouder of ISKON)we find descriptions of Lord Krishna's eternal home, such as this one:

"Goloka, also called Vrindavana, is always full of cows. There are many waterfalls, which are always pouring water, and the sound is so sweet that it covers the sound of the crickets. And because water flows all over, the forest always looks very green and beautiful.

"The inhabitants of Vrindavana are never disturbed by the scorching heat of the sun or high summer temperatures. The lakes of Vrindavana are surrounded by green grasses, and various kinds of lotus flowers bloom there. The air blowing in Vrindavana carries the aromatic pollen of those lotus flowers. When the particles of water from the waves of the Yamuna River, the lakes, and the waterfalls touch the bodies of the inhabitants of Vrindavana, they automatically feel a cooling effect.

"Vrindavana is such a nice place. Flowers are always blooming, and there are even various kinds of decorated deer. Birds are chirping, peacocks are crowing and dancing, and bees are humming. The cuckoos there sing nicely in five kinds of tunes.

"Krishna, the reservoir of pleasure, blowing His flute, accompanied by His elder brother Balarama and the other cowherd boys and the cows, enters the beautiful forest of Vrindavana to enjoy the atmosphere. They walk into the midst of newly grown leaves of trees whose flowers resembled peacock feathers. They are garlanded by those flowers and decorated with saffron chalk. Sometimes they are dancing and singing and sometimes wrestling with one another. While Krishna dances, some of the cowherd boys sing and others play on flutes; some bugle on buffalo horns or clap their hands, praising Krishna, 'Dear brother, You are dancing very nicely.' "

Vaikuntha- From Srimad-Bhagavatam (3.15.16'23)

"In those Vaikuntha planets there are many forests which are very auspicious. In those forests the trees are wish-fulfilling trees, and in all seasons they are filled with flowers and fruits because everything in the Vaikuntha planets is spiritual and personal.

"In the Vaikuntha planets the inhabitants fly in their airplanes, accompanied by their wives and consorts, and eternally sing of the character and activities of the Lord, which are always devoid of all inauspicious qualities. While singing the glories of the Lord, they deride even the presence of the blossoming madhavi flowers, which are fragrant and laden with honey.

"When the king of bees hums in a high pitch, singing the glories of the Lord, there is a temporary lull in the noise of the pigeon, the cuckoo, the crane, the cakravaka, the swan, the parrot, the partridge, and the peacock. Such transcendental birds stop their own singing simply to hear the glories of the Lord.

"Although flowering plants like the mandara, kunda, kurabaka, utpala, campaka, arna, punnaga, nagakeshara, bakula, lily, and parijata are full of transcendental fragrance, they are still conscious of the austerities performed by Tulasi, for Tulasi is given special preference by the Lord, who garlands Himself with Tulasi leaves.

"The inhabitants of Vaikuntha travel in their airplanes made of lapis lazuli, emerald, and gold. Although crowded by their consorts, who have large hips and beautiful smiling faces, the male inhabitants cannot be stimulated to passion by their mirth and beautiful charms.

"The ladies in the Vaikuntha planets are as beautiful as the goddess of fortune herself. Such transcendentally beautiful ladies, their hands playing with lotuses and their leg bangles tinkling, are sometimes seen sweeping the marble walls, which are bedecked at intervals with golden borders, in order to receive the grace of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

"The goddesses of fortune worship the Lord in their own gardens by offering Tulasi leaves on the coral-paved banks of transcendental reservoirs of water. While offering worship to the Lord, they can see on the water the reflection of their beautiful faces with raised noses, and it appears that they have become more beautiful because of the Lord's kissing their faces.

"It is very much regrettable that unfortunate people do not discuss the description of the Vaikuntha planets."

Saket- saket dham is just like Ayodhya during Ram rajya. the people there is satisfied and always in peace serving Ram. they know that Ram is supreme and always serve Ram. Ram with her Sita eternally resides in saket dham with His devotees who served Him during His Ram incarnation on Earth. All devotee of saketh dham lives in eternal happiness and pleasure ae a subject to Lord Ram and happily serves him

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Originally posted by: Rajnish_Kumar

There are innumerable universes. All that we see is one universe. Like this, there are innumerable universes. And each universe has one Shankar, one Brahma, one Vishnu. So there are innumerable Shankars, innumerable Brahmas, innumerable Vishnus.

Devi Bhagwat Puran says, you can count the grains of sand on earth. But you can't count the number of universes there are in this Creation.

In each universe, there are different Lokas. Like, in this universe of ours, we are in Bhoo-Lok, the planet of ours. Below that, there are lower planes of existence, which we call the hellish planets, or Narak. and above there are 7 lokas which we usualy called swarga, but avove swarga there are more.

So, it is described that above our (1)Bhoo-Lok(Earth), there is
(2) Bhuvar Loka -Antariksha, the space between Earth and Sun
(3) Swarga Loka -the heaven world ruled by Indra; the space between Sun and the Pole Star
(4) Mahar Loka -the world of the Adepts who are coexistent with Brahma
(5) Jnana Loka -the world of celestial beings such as mind-born sons of Brahma
(6) Tapas Loka -the world of immortal ascetics, the Vairagis
(7) Satya Loka -the world of Brahma, the Supreme Deity

besides there is seven below own Bhoo-lok-Below that, there are lower planes of existence, which we call the hellish planets, or Narak or patala. Patala Lokas are the infernal regions, inhabited by Nagas, Daityas, Danavas, etc. They have been classified differently in different scriptures. According to Padma Purana, these infernal lokas are
(i)Patala -where dwell the Nagas under the rulership of Vasuki; where dwell the animal body of men and their material propensities
(ii) Mahatala -the abode of men's astral body; here reside the great serpents

(iii) Rasatala
the plane of passionate and lustful beings; where Daityas and Danavas dwell
(iv) Talatala -the clinging of lower Manas to the sentient and objective life; the realm of Maya
(v) Sutala -identification of man with his animal nature; the realm ruled by Bali
(vi) Vitala -the realm where animal nature in man is delinked from his higher nature; the realm ruled by a form of Shiva
(vii) Atala -the realm of perpetual state of torture.

To know more about Naraka- https://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1077531

And all of these together make one Universe. Like this, there are innumerable Universes.


Great work, Rajnish!!! 👏👏👏
I read in a book that Atala was the first of the infernal worlds - the immediate lower to Bhulokha and Patala was the last and the lowest of all the infernal regions. I'll refer and get back here.
Vitala is ruled by Hatekeshwar, isn't it?

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