wtf - 14 feb

Originally posted by: NNOOO

I M ASO VERY HAPPY THAT PREET IS BACK !

Originally posted by: palak19

👏 The first time I ever found this forum and Kis Desh was when you made a post about Prem and his white rolled up sleeves... that was the best introduction i could have gotten to this forum.

😆 oh dear. a post of mine on prem's white shirt's with sleeves rolled up halfway? should i be embarassed now? i must warn you that the forum can be ... um ... a leetle more sensible than that. *thinking* well, mebbe not... 😆

but those sleeves are cool.. no? 😍 can hardly wait for 'em to make an appearance back on the show...

After such a while, I came back by accident and decided to make an account and if nothing else, thank you for that post and of course this one...

you're welcome? 😆

As for your points,
1) I know, how can everyone go on so normally? Shoot, if I found my dead fiance to be alive again, I mean I would be happy but there would be so many questions in my mind!

*sigh* just read a couple of posts by soaps (nadia) saying the same thing. y'know? i think part of the problem with this show is that they show us five episodes which is essentially what is the start of one evening (heer getting ready for her marriage to the rat) and ends at the end of that same night.

but we get to see them across five days! i wonder if that is part of the problem causing a disconnect in our head.

i've always thought that the pacing of this show is a problem - and this is part of it. if they know it's a daily serial, they should really work to get the content to fit (as much as possible, imho) within the audience's time-frame as well.... ?

another thing is: i suspect that prem-heer have had a serious conversation where she's understood a lotof things -- just we were not privy to it! *keeping my fingers crossed on a sensible explanation on this question soon though*

Maybe Heer sits and watches Kyunki, I mean if Mihir can die and come back so many times in that show, she is probably glad that Prem can die and come back at least once.
Never say never attitude, I like it!

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2) Coming from the back... hint? Kisi ke peeche se aana apshagun hot hai. No good there, if he is sneaking up on everyone... hmmm... possibly a negative connotation but I sure hope not.

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3) And no Ekta vampire becomes good so quickly... some trick to this, maybe she is trying to be the best friend and take Preet away that way. Cause misunderstandings.

hmmm.... i remember everyone on the forum saying the same thing 'bout vishaka (ash' sister) and not believing them. it's just that... it'd be a little more interesting if she was really the good guy, no?

4) who is satpyal? And anyway screw that how did Ratpal just leave so peacefully? He did not come back marching down with the police to take them out of the house? Nor did he yell and scream...

🤣 satyapal is the guy who used to at ratty's side 24x7 - kinda like his pa. he vanished when ratty took his trip to rajasthan. satyapal used to track the juneja family for ratty earlier -- want to know where he's vanished to now.

ratty didn't leave so peacefully! he did squeak that this marriage couldn't happen and then tried to get physical with heer. at which point, he got thumped by your "fierce-eyed prem" 😆 i think he's gone to strategise - and will be back in the morning to kick 'em out of the house?

5) Haha I do not know what Smitha's conspiracy theory is but I did read the first 15 chapters of her story today and yah I would buy anything she writes... she is a fantabulous writer!

isn't she??! ⭐️👏 seriously need to get her to write for this show...

6) Gosh, I am already tired of Sanjana track and it hasn't even fully started yet...

🤣 i think i said this the first time they introduced the sanjana idea... boring, boring!

And who do you like more, Preet or Prem? Kya baat hai 4 pictures of Preet and his smile but no pictures of the seductive looks Prem was giving Prem?

😆 that's 'cause we've gotten used to doing preet-pooja in the wtf. and all things targetted towards prem-heer had been covered ... er ... extensively, imho! 😆 in the bt,lt of 13feb.

Hai, I am fida over both the brothers, kya kare Ekta always manages to bring in the best looking male actors despite everything!

don't they, though?? even more than that, this team gets the best matched couple ever! i've this fantasy that when they audition for a new show, they select the girl. and then, as part of the guy's audition, they have the girl and the guy stand next to each other, in ... comfortable poses 😆 to see if they have good on-screen chemistry... 😆 forget pacing. forget scripting. get the pair... and this? they get it brilliantly! 😆

Be back later for more =) Ab jo mil gaye hai, baate shaate chalti rahengi

😆 see you 'round. have fun.

Originally posted by: Soaps1

For me the last 2 episodes were very depressing, i found everything that happened once the wedding stopped to be too unnatural and too unrealistic . Someone returned from the dead and everything back to normal in 15 minutes? You got to be kidding me!

*sigh* soaps. i feel your pain. but y'know s'thing? nothing 'bout his return was normal, no? the setting wasn't normal -- a last moment intervention to persuade a guy (who had coincidentally landed up at heer's marriage) he is prem. the last moment intervention to stop heer's marriage. gayatri-mom fainting away.

i kinda thought most of the stuff was okay -- except that it would've made more sense (to me at least) if after they tucked gayatri-mom in, they had not launched immediately into the whole suhaag raat drama.

what was odd to me was that with that one hug session, it was like everyone had understood everything 'bout prem's past-year disappearance. where he'd been. how he got back. etc.

here, the way we got it - it's like that family session has already happened! that they've talked. they've understood. they've accepted. and from that point onwards, life goes on as planned.

and if we had seen such a family discussion, everything we'd seen would've made more sense to me. as it stands, they didn't. we get little hints of what might have happened between the time that prem stopped heer's marriage to ratpal, no?

- lalit juneja saying "i've been wanting to talk to you, but everyone wanted you and i didn't have a chance." does this mean that the big questions have been answered? did lalit juneja just want some emotional father-son bonding time at that point?
- prem saying "meher told me that you used to stand looking at the moon while i was not here". does this mean that during the big questions session, maybe heer wasn't there much? maybe she was with gayatri-mom?
- and of course, we didn't get to see what prem-heer had to say to each other when they finally were alone.

some conversations did happen. we were just not shown when? this is how they want us to perceive it? that we'll be told later?

i think they just wanted to show us (the audience) a spectacular set of prem-heer scenes for phalentine's. 'cause prem-heer-are-one is the ultimate love story. perhaps once 02/14 is out of the way, we can get back to some real answers to questions? *thinking* mixed up with some pheyeoooohs, phhandoooohs, general prem-heer-are-one-ooohs, mebbe? 😆

To top it all of Prem and heer's first moment alone was totally not Premeer moment and Prem was totally not ThePrem when he said "i love you" without even a hint of emotion. I mean Prem is back and heer is not at all emotional and neither is Prem? You got to be kidding me!!!

ah, no, no, soaps! it wasn't as bad as that. here, i blame two things: one, the scriptwriters -- who don't seem to get that ph-convos suck and pheye-convos rock. and this got compounded with the new camera trick that they've been fooling 'round with -- the floor level shots. they totally miss out on the phact that the strength of prem-heer-are-one come from reading little nuances on their faces. and how can a floor-level shot ever do justice to faces??! 🤣 and remember -- we see nothing of their conversations after!!!

seriously enough -- i think we've been shown too little. just mho. but true, i think. and btw, i think this has pretty much always been true -- we get to see too little of prem-heer convos - but they've never had a problem convincing us prem-heer-are-one. um... 'kay maybe it's convincing me ....?

i'm gonna w&w to see if it's as hopeless as you think or no. and btw, i do think there's something different 'bout prem. although i'm not sure it's a ... lack of emotion. i think it's a different flavour of prem emotion -- more like prem-has-grown-up-while-on-his-own kinda emotion. a more independent prem than before. which i think will be an i nteresting thing..

And yea i am also suspicious of Kiran, there is something so not right about him

yeah! i thought that was seriously fishy...

ummm Faking? i really doubt it because if they now show him to be faking...it would make the whole "trying to get back his memory drama" appear just too much! If he was faking he wouldn't take forever to go down and stop heer!

😆 y'know what i think 'bout this? we don't know what'd happened if that stooooopid doctor hadn't come in. and then lalit-juneja hadn't discovered him. we just don't know - 'cause the juneja's did find him. me? i ask -- what the heck was hip-hop driving like crazy away from the airport for? and where was he headed? 'cause if he was headed towards the jzoo, then he'd have been going to stop heer...if the juneja's had not found him, mebbe he would've stopped the wedding sooner?? 🤣

as you can tell, i'm w&w... 😆

Originally posted by: estee

on some levels, this entire phalentine's day thing is a big old sham, no? but sitting cosily tucked into an armchair at my pcp's place; stomach full of a lovely dinner; waiting for dessert; mind half full of the argument we had with her dad 'bout whether armies in countries should be retrained to focus more on domestic terrorism rather than be ready to fight wars; i'm glad there's a phalentine's day where there are phalentine day's shows. and we get to see another facet of hc and ag. it was quite interesting - hc actually converted his usual manic energy into some coherence! and ag looked graceful and totally in control. i was charmed against my will.

dessert in this house is an elaborate affair giving lots of time to wonder 'bout something that shabs asked -- ''what, oh what, to wtf today?'' fatima wanted wtf to be a ''wish things feature'' -- but then this would become longer than even the usual estee sized posts with multiple entries and everything! 🤣 so 'm gonna put up a separate one for that..

my brain must still be putting itself -- i still can't think much beyond phriday-13th-phhandooh#3 *sigh. this prem-heer, na? they even redefine what terror a phriday-the-13th can bring! 😆* - and if it can think, it just remembers that it was prem who broke up the marriage of heer to ravan. and after that, all my brain comes up with is pictures of smiles, and sunshine, and green fields in moutains, and the sounds of laughter and birds singing, and all such things. 😆

so i'm seriously tempted to say: lets just fuhgeddabout wtf-ing today and go straight to preet-pooja today. 😊

but there are ''t's'' though. some of them 'bout the past, some 'bout the future, all in the hands of the creatives.

I had decided to go on maunvrat coz its too depressing to see the forum these days...I mean Prem & Heer are married, its something we always wanted! Old Preet is back in action, the fun and games are back....and when its shown to us, we are still not happy.. we are still wondering why why why....we still have questions in our mind.. it could be that probably it was shot for and it has not been shown to us....probably it was cut at the editing table , probably they are saving it for a later date....I think the charm is coming back albeit slowly and I think we should give the creatives some time for the show to regain the lost glory... dont ya think so.... Since its your post estee, I will just just go ahead and tell you my thoughts..

1. hopefully, we are going to be told something 'bout where prem has been all this time? we are going to be told whether he had lost his memory or not? 'cause i'm still not convinced he had lost it.

I dont think he lost his memory. I think he was faking it all this while and I think he knew what Ratpal was upto... I think he knows and he is keeping quiet..probably wants to expose ratpal in his own ways. Thats Prem for you.- Prem who would do anything for his family and love and hence i think he got to know that ratpal wanted revenge from him and the family and wanted to know the reason why and hence a character totally different from Prem so that ppl dont mistake him to be Prem

i still want to know why he got off that plane. i still want to know why it was seeing the cctv recording that switched him from hip-hop to prem. and he has a serious problem with people touching his face -- did you notice how he ducked when kuldi touched his face during the family-sequential-hug session after the wedding was done? why? is that a wig he's wearing??? 🤣 or ooh! a mask that he is wearing? 😲

most of all i want to know what made him fake hip-hop *yeah still believing that story, guys. 😆* -- 'cause i'm sure that will tell us how long it'll take for him to get done with everything that heer has asked for, and for them to ... um ... to .. uh .. to .. er .. *can you give me a second while i get a bucket of water to dunk my head in?*

Ummm... knowing the character of Prem, Prem is some one who will do anything for his family. For whom his family means everything to him..so again, i think he got to know that rampal was taking revenge from his family and he just wanted to get to the bottom of the matter...

2. btw, isn't it funny how many back-door entries prem made last week? i mean, kodiyonpal brought prem into the jzoo in a backdoor entry manner. then prem came to the mandap in a total backdoor entry - sneaking in from behind his heer to give her a near-heart-attack. is there a hint there???

Well. again, he was faking his memory loss... so....

3. so now that heer has broken her ''contract'' with ratpal, does that mean preet's soon gonna lose his job? 'cause didn't he get that job 'cause of heer forcing ratpal to do so?

I think the three bothers are going to get together and join hands and bring the business back to where it was ...

3. also, does that mean dirtchachi will be asked to get back to her juneja-troubling ways? 'cause the deeds of the house are still with her, no? and now that prem's back -- gayatri-mom can longer be the excuse for them to stay in that house? does that mean they'll be kicked out?

and has ash really become ''a good guy''? i mean, she was nice to meher as long as heer was getting married to ratpal -- but she was missing during the tease-heer session, and the morning after?

i think ashlesha has changed to the better... either dirtchachi gives the property papers back to the junejas or then the house is sealed off and junejas are bought to the street.... thius begin the journey of the junejas to start life afresh just as they did, when the first moved to canada.I still cant believe that they could show the juneja';s as being so dumb that they didnt believe in saving for the future.... I wonder whatever happ to the hotels that were in veeras name or then to the land that was in heers name

4. exactly how is prem gonna get the family's fortune's back on track? he looks very confident! but ratpal's around to foil his every move, so how...? *btw, where is satyapal these days? is very fishy that he used to never move around without that guy - and now he's nowhere to be found?*

Where are jugni and the doves re.... I miss them. Prem & Heer are married, why havent any member in the family remembered Balraj & Teji....

5. didn't any one else get bad vibes 'bout kuldi's husband (kiran?) when he came in and told lalit juneja that he just couldn't believe that prem's back? or have i bought into smitha's conspiracy theory too well? *hey! she writes destiny - if you read that, you'd buy into anything she sells too! 😆*

could it just be that kiran had an extra marital affair with sanjana and that is the reason for her state and not Prem?

6. of course, there's gonna be a revenge-for-sanjana angle that ratty will play out? i mean, i know that just a night's passed since ravan got thrown out on his bottom. but still, ratty has been good in marshalling plans and resources before...

naahhh....

7. w&w**, i guess, to find out what's gonna happen. but what is really interesting looking at this story is: doesn't it look like they're trying to go back in time to where prem was getting ready to marry heer way back in october? i mean, including having him in the same shirt he was wearing that day! as if this whole prem-death excursion was one elaborate way of bringing sanjana into the story? personally, i think they could've done is in a simpler way - without the misery of that prem death. but i must admit -- the whole ''death of prem'' made for some superb acting from hc and ag. also made for some superb cinematography in rajasthan. there were even phhandoohs, damnit!

it also paved the way for preet and harman to show some mettle!! They have come a long way... i think that track was needed at that time, to show how family members deal with pain and how life takes a turn when a loved one is gone...you know estee, relationships are siuch... you dont question. you understand. you dont ask. the heart gives you the answers that you are looking for...and hence I guess the Junrjas didnt bother asking Prem, coz they trust him. and they know he must be having his reason, reasons they will know in time. dil ke rishte.... hote hi aise hain. rest latrer

hmm... is it is really true that misery makes for better drama on these shows?? personally, i think not. but i guess that has been the approach in drama's so far..

and they've certainly still got me w&w. 😆

hmm.. so we're done. all that leaves to be done is - preet-pooja and one really personal and bad rant. i think i should do the ranting elsewhere. but pooja shuru karengey?

*preetstess looking at the massive offering of flowers that has come from the massive group of smiling -- no! beaming -- disciples who have come for the pooja. and suddenly feeling very insecure of being a fit preetstess for (god) preet. what if i can't say the right prayer? what if my tongue gets twisted into knots and all that comes out is ohgdsmilpluadwspdf kinda nonsense?? giving myself a mental knock on the upside of my head! hey! brace yourself! god's doing all the hard work smiling and making them happy. the disciples are doing the hard work of loving (god) preet with all their heart and mind -- all i have to do is to keep the temple clean and not turn anyone away! squaring my shoulders and beginning...*

oh preet, god of smiles,
we gather here again to worship in your temple, this garden.

not out of a sense of social pressure,
or out of some obligatory burden.

but compelled by our joy
and driven by our happiness

seeking to offer our most sincere thanks,
that we have you here with us.

for being the perfect mortal brother to
your brother, with him through all strife,
just like you've been always been a
support to your beloved brother's beloved wife.

you're also the only one who, as well as always
being steadfast and true.
can make everyone laugh out aloud,
with your obviously poor choice of glue...🤣

we pray that here you will always be,
the laughter and joy in this story
and we, your humble disciples,
can laugh and smile and never have to feel sorry

for watching this show,
for you will always be there to soften any blow.

all hail, god preet.
our saviour, our saving grace,
our source of smiles,
we worship thee!

*sighing and hoping that everyone was able to understand all that. and turning 'round to the disciples lying on top of each other, as they worship in ...layers! sorry 'bout the space guys. as i said, this is a temporary temple. hopefully as the show continues and we get to see more (god) preet smiles, we'll get more funds coming in to build a temple that is worthy of our god. 😆*

end of prayer, people. all please rise. i see some of you have brought prasad and laid it at the feet of (god) preet. please collect it as you leave and distribute it to the poor outside. your prasad, here, i offer you.

(god) preet smiles a smile of desperate love and relief as his pb takes the sindoor from gayatri-mom

(credit, khushi, 11feb caps, http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1126344)

(god) preet smiles with macho pride at his pb's macho way of killting ravan's attempt to marry sita.

(credit, khushi, 11feb caps, http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1126344)

(god) preet and his wife smilling happily during the juneja family hug session - omg, what a smile!

(credit: khushi, 12 feb caps, http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1127225)

(god) preet smiling at being blessed by his god, his pb.

(credit: khushi, 12 feb caps, http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1127225)

i hope the prasads gladden your heart and lighten your soul. so that you can smile, smile, smile for the rest of the week and the weekend, when we will have our next preet-pooja.

have fun. and remember to keep w&w...? 🤣
*yeah, like anyone needs to be told that this weekend! 🤣*