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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: liza93

They said "Politics is a dirty game & girls are too gentle, Hence they should not enter Politics"...one of the boys said, "Parliament me jaakar rotiyan belni hai kya?" ( Do u wanna make chapatis in the parliament?), I felt like giving him a tight slap.

Tell them India has been already led by leaders majority of whom were men. So, what good have they been able to do. Agreed that whatever good have been done was also by these same leaders but then is it upto the potential that India has.

Originally posted by: liza93

If Affairs, divorces, family-breaking & heartbreaks are happening, then let me tell you that 99% of the times it is the man who strays, not the woman. Even men whose wives stay at home have mistresses & multiple number of affairs, What causes that?

That's not an honest remark. It's not as if men are having affairs with other men. There's a woman involved too for every man who's having an EM affair.

Originally posted by: Megha25

Women can think more rationally than men (they're calm in most situations) so women are better suited for politics in my opinion.

That's not the truth. Studies suggest that women are better at communicating both verbally and non verbally and also have better intuition. However, men are better at imaginative and logical thinking.

Originally posted by: liza93

If a woman works at home, does that mean that she doesn't come out of her house at all ?? Housewife does not mean "always at home wife". She might go out to do a few chores, she might go out shopping etc. Or are you trying to imagine a scenario of only men walking on the roads & women stuffed inside their houses ? In that case, homosexuality will become extremely common, don't you think ?

Men don't have affairs with only "working" women, they have affairs with housewives too. Maybe you need to widen your horizens a bit.

Here you're contradicting what you wrote earlier and proving me right.

Originally posted by: liza93

Let me remind you, that it is the men who go out and have affairs, so women should not go out of their homes because of the fear of getting hooked by a man ? Lousy theory... .....Infact, men should keep their hormones in check before stepping out of the house.

Same thing once again. You're going on contradicting yourself. Trying to prove those studies right are you, about logical thinking and gender you know.

Originally posted by: liza93

We are not welcomg the men to come & have affairs, it is the man who lures the woman into believing that he will lay the world at her feet.

Atleast learn the difference between the two. If the man is not welcome and he takes the woman forcibly then it won't be an affair, it'll be rape. Otherwise it's consensual.

Now coming to your actual point of discussion, if women should enter politics. I'll say why not (and the fact is many of them have already entered). As long as the leader/ politician is good how does it matter which gender s/he belongs to. If politics in India is dirty affairs, it's not the fault of the women, it's the fault of each and every Indian people. So, women shouldn't be penalised for that by discouraging them to enter politics. At this point of time the more choice we have the better, as out of them there'll certainly be some good leaders and we can elect them.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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You're contradicting yourself when one moment you say that 99% of the times it's the men who goes astray and in the next post you say that men have affairs with housewives. If those men have gone astray, what about those housewives. And does it really matter if that women is married or not, the fact remains that she is involved in an EM affair. And conversely there might be a no. of bachelors involved with married women, does that mean that those guys are innocent and don't know what they're into, of course not.
And don't try to kid us with that luring tale. It's not a fairy tale where a witch lures Hansel and Gretel and neither it is a film where a woman is made to look all innocent. The fact is women know very well what they're getting into. For every EM affair there's a man and a woman who are responsible. When you say you have equal powers then you have equal responsibilities too. Try to own up to that.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

You're contradicting yourself when one moment you say that 99% of the times it's the men who goes astray and in the next post you say that men have affairs with housewives. If those men have gone astray, what about those housewives. And does it really matter if that women is married or not, the fact remains that she is involved in an EM affair. And conversely there might be a no. of bachelors involved with married women, does that mean that those guys are innocent and don't know what they're into, of course not.
And don't try to kid us with that luring tale. It's not a fairy tale where a witch lures Hansel and Gretel and neither it is a film where a woman is made to look all innocent. The fact is women know very well what they're getting into. For every EM affair there's a man and a woman who are responsible. When you say you have equal powers then you have equal responsibilities too. Try to own up to that.

I think you took what I said in a completely wrong way. Someone here said that all the social problems, families breaking down etc is happening because women go out & work which therefore leads to an EM affair, Hence women should look after the house & men should work outside. In response to the comment, I said that why should women stay in their houses because of the fear of getting hooked by a man ? Maybe you haven't read through the entire post, why blame women for all the social problems ? Why don't you accept equal responsibility here ?
Exactly. The women know what they're getting into, I'm not implying that they are innocent. I'm only saying that mostly it is the man who takes the first step, it is the man who comes forward first.....the women might get involved willingly too, but that's after the man has taken the first step. That is what I mean when I say "The man goes astray first".....I do not mean that the woman does not go astray at all.
Edited by liza93 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: liza93

I think you took what I said in a completely wrong way. Someone here said that all the social problems, families breaking down etc is happening because women go out & work which therefore leads to an EM affair, Hence women should look after the house & men should work outside. In response to the comment, I said that why should women stay in their houses because of the fear of getting hooked by a man ? Maybe you haven't read through the entire post, why blame women for all the social problems ? Why don't you accept equal responsibility here ?
Exactly. The women know what they're getting into, I'm not implying that they are innocent. I'm only saying that mostly it is the man who takes the first step, it is the man who comes forward first.....the women might get involved willingly too, but that's after the man has taken the first step. That is what I mean when I say "The man goes astray first".....I do not mean that the woman does not go astray at all.

I know the context in which you said what you said. Just as I don't agree with the other person's remark that women should be housewives because otherwise EM affairs will increase similarly I don't agree when you say that mostly men are responsible for EM affairs. For you just because the man proposed first it makes him more guilty but for me both are equally wrong irrespective of who takes the first step.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

I know the context in which you said what you said. Just as I don't agree with the other person's remark that women should be housewives because otherwise EM affairs will increase similarly I don't agree when you say that mostly men are responsible for EM affairs. For you just because the man proposed first it makes him more guilty but for me both are equally wrong irrespective of who takes the first step.

You're jumping to conclusions now. I did mention in my previous post that both are equally responsible for the EM affair, which means that both of them are guilty. However, It is true that mostly men take the first step, that does not make them any more responsible or guilty than women.
I hope you get what I mean.
EDIT : Sorry, I meant "Does Not"
Edited by liza93 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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kk the boys of ure klass might be jokin n foolin around..bt der's a limit...dey cnt alwyz underestimate a woman..!! Today d view has abt women in d world has changed..there hv been mny women hu hv been sucsessful in their fields..n i hafta tell more sucsessful than men too :|...Soo i blv tat evry1 shud drop this image of women as weak..only a person hu serves u n wrks in d kitchen..drop this guys..wich generation r u in??!! n I'm ashamed 2 say dis bt itz true tat even some women have the same thoughts lykk the boys of ure klass!! 😡 Sorry If I reacted too mch..bt I jus cnt stand gender discrimination!!

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