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Posted: 17 years ago
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I was reading a post related to "stop making comparisons bet'n 2 mahabharats"..and I agree with that .Everybody is after Ekta for showing mahabharat as she sees it...why everyone is so harsh on her. She has tried her best to make this show appeal to the youngsters and the new generation. It is just sad to see that the channel itself is having problems so the show has become redundant.

I would like to draw your attention to another point too...."Ramayan"
Even though this show is remade by the same group/producer🤔 still i find a lot of difference in the way the show is handled...The new Ravan is too creepy ...ok..ok the point is even the original makers can't duplicate their own success so why should we all compare ekta's show...to the THEN SUPRERHIT EPIC mahabharat....what ekta has made was made to suit the new gen taste .

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Posted: 17 years ago
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it is wrong not wrong but quite foolish and childish to compare this soap with sagar arts ramayan. i hope you should see ramayan of NDTV imagine to come to cunclusion whether it is comparable with this show or not. old Ramayan of ramanad sagar and old MB of BR chopra was a legent. it was just fav. but this KHMK stants no whr in front of old MB. but NDTV ramayan does. the difference is use of simple language and story more simple which should appeal to this generation. but it has not lost the saul of ramayan. but this show achully has nothing in it which could be called an epic. it seems as we are watching regular soap of ekta than a epic. NDTV ramayan is 200% more better than this. does it contain anything just a single thing we should like watching it. it has made a mockery of MB. it can be called as an attack to our holy epic by story teller itself. sorry if anyone is offended but this is what i belive. when old ramayan or MB use to came parents just advise theire pupil to watch these as there was something to learn but on what basis parents adivise their child to wach this show of ekta, just to gather wrong, never heard info about MB by this show of ekta.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i am not talking about comparing MB with RAMAYAN....i am comapring old ramayan with new ramayan and thet too not the serial ramayan on the whole...it is good...but ONLY raavan and his dialogues , they were very wierd and cheap....the raavan we had then had better dialogues instead of this raavan...he got really cheap dialogues....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hey ur a fan of Ekta's MB then plz tell me..Is the show back on air or no?

n dear why ru bringing up the topic again ? there have been lots of fights and issues on this matter already ..this topic will lead to nothing but fights only...nobody is comparing the old MB and the new one..whatz there to compare when Ekta's MB has halted in between?

@Rajnish - plz don't take offence yaar..what she intented to say was that legends can't be recreated even if the creator is the same..Even if Ramesh Sippy remakes Sholoy, he won't be able to match upto his previous work....

but she's right about Ravan and a few dialogues ..half of the dialogues are copied from the old Ramayan or twisted in some way .......frankly speaking, I can't identify with Ramayan at all..I can't believe this is our Ramayan , our culture..it's overdramatized ... i'm not comparing it to Mahabharat or any other mythology...plz don't take offence since this is my view only

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

hey ur a fan of Ekta's MB then plz tell me..Is the show back on air or no?

n dear why ru bringing up the topic again ? there have been lots of fights and issues on this matter already ..this topic will lead to nothing but fights only...nobody is comparing the old MB and the new one..whatz there to compare when Ekta's MB has halted in between?

I am not a gr8 fan of MB but i always watch it with an open mind...other producers , they are making prithvi raj chahan and many othermythological serilas which are far from reality but successful and apprecaited by a lot of people.... so why everybody targets ekta only...whatever she does instantly becomes an easy target. even the superhit hollywood movie 300 was half fiction...still people appreciated it

but if poor ekta tries to do something she has to suffer
...yup i know it is too late to discuss it now...the serial is over...

@Rajnish - plz don't take offence yaar..what she intented to say was that legends can't be recreated even if the creator is the same..Even if Ramesh Sippy remakes Sholoy, he won't be able to match upto his previous work....that is exactly what was in my mind😃

but she's right about Ravan and a few dialogues ..half of the dialogues are copied from the old Ramayan or twisted in some way .......frankly speaking, I can't identify with Ramayan at all..I can't believe this is our Ramayan , our culture..it's overdramatized ... i'm not comparing it to Mahabharat or any other mythology...plz don't take offence since this is my view only

Thank you so much for understanding my point of view...even i cudn't express my thoughts in a better way...😳
Charu

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: chullbulli

I was reading a post related to "stop making comparisons bet'n 2 mahabharats"..and I agree with that .Everybody is after Ekta for showing mahabharat as she sees it...why everyone is so harsh on her. She has tried her best to make this show appeal to the youngsters and the new generation. It is just sad to see that the channel itself is having problems so the show has become redundant.

I would like to draw your attention to another point too...."Ramayan"
Even though this show is remade by the same group/producer🤔 still i find a lot of difference in the way the show is handled...The new Ravan is too creepy ...ok..ok the point is even the original makers can't duplicate their own success so why should we all compare ekta's show...to the THEN SUPRERHIT EPIC mahabharat....what ekta has made was made to suit the new gen taste .

So does Ekta see Mahabharat as a mockery of the epic? Does she see Mahabharat as something she can mold into to suit her needs? Once again, the Mahabharat is not hers.
There's a difference in showing a mythological in your own way, and there's a difference in changing the story. Seeing Mahabharat in your own way would be to tell the exact story according to the story line, but giving a few characters more specialty or whatever, showing the time of Mahabharat according to you, clothes, etc. For example, someone who likes the characters of Duryodhan or Karna more than the Pandavas may make a Mahabharat which focuses more on their life story, how they felt during everything, and their side of the story. They would give more important to Duryodhan and Karna, and make us feel more sympathy for them, but they would not change the story, or add their own stories, and call in it Mahabharat!
So you can't say KHMK is Mahabharat as Ekta sees it. Then, where did the stories she made up come from? KHMK is another of Ekta's soap operas, and she only gave it the name of Mahabharat to draw in more viewers. 80% of the younger generation does not like KHMK, and it appeals to them in no way. The younger generation these days is more interested in knowing about our epics, and they do not like trash like KHMK. There is nothing religious about KHMK, no soul in it whatsoever. There is nothing in it to say that it is an epic of Hinduism, and that is the main reason I do not like it. I hate it when our puranas are molded to suit others' needs, and the truth is distorted. Any mythological, no matter how it is viewed by different people, needs to contain our culture, and our Hindu identity.
This is just how I feel. Sorry if I hurt you.😳
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: luv_khwaish

hey ur a fan of Ekta's MB then plz tell me..Is the show back on air or no?

n dear why ru bringing up the topic again ? there have been lots of fights and issues on this matter already ..this topic will lead to nothing but fights only...nobody is comparing the old MB and the new one..whatz there to compare when Ekta's MB has halted in between?

@Rajnish - plz don't take offence yaar..what she intented to say was that legends can't be recreated even if the creator is the same..Even if Ramesh Sippy remakes Sholoy, he won't be able to match upto his previous work....

but she's right about Ravan and a few dialogues ..half of the dialogues are copied from the old Ramayan or twisted in some way .......frankly speaking, I can't identify with Ramayan at all..I can't believe this is our Ramayan , our culture..it's overdramatized ... i'm not comparing it to Mahabharat or any other mythology...plz don't take offence since this is my view only

Charu

Charu, even you know that nothing can take place of the old Ramayan for me. The old Ramayan is my very life, because it was taken so beautifully. I am sure you know I prefer the old one to the new one, but unlike in the beginning, I like the new Ramayan now, not more than the old one, but I like it as another nicely taken Ramayan serial. The actors have also improved a lot, especially Gurmeet Choudhary (Ram), Prafulla Panday (Indrajit), and Debina Bonnerjee (Sita). Their acting is more pleasing now than it has been in the beginning, and I can see Gurmeet now in a Ram image. I don't think of him as Shri Ram like Arun Govil, but his acting and expressions now give off a Shri Ram aura, which is good. I agree that Akhilendra Mishra's lines are twisted and a little annoying at times, and his acting uses more force than necessary, but he too improved since the Sita Haran scenes, though he still does not contain the vigour and pride which is necessary for a character like Ravan. Arvind Trivedi in that was outstanding.
What I really appreciate in NDTV Ramayan is that they sticked to the story,👏 which is very very important. And the background stories which NDTV Ramayan shows is very helpful to understand the actions of some of the characters.
In the beginning of NDTV Ramayan, I agree that everything was a little dramatized and sometimes a little boring, but ever since the Vanvas episodes, it is really interesting now.
What I see in NDTV Ramayan which is retained from the old Ramayan was the bhakti towards God, and the spirituality that it teaches. NDTV Ramayan shows Shri Ram as Maryada Purushotham, just like it did Arun Govil 20 years back, and it shows Sita Mata as a Maha Sati, just like it shows Deepika 20 years back. I am not talking about the actors' acting, but the characterization of the characters. Hanuman in NDTV Ramayan, just like Dara Singh 20 years back, is really doing a wonderful job, and he gives off an aura of Bajranbali, the most devoted servant of Ramji.
While this Ramayan (for me) may not contain (in full) the warmth and devotion of the old one, it definitely seems like a Ramayan serial, and not a trash soap opera like KHMK. It has bhakti and shows the story as it happened, which is important.
I still like the old Ramayan much better, but I like this new Ramayan also, as it has taught me many things I did not know before. Mythologies, to appeal to younsters these days, don't need to be like KHMK. They don't need to use modern clothing, fake story plots, a modernized script, etc. NDTV Ramayan uses technology in a way that appeals to youngsters, but at the same time, it has not lost the soul of Ramayan.⭐️The clothing, the jewellry, the setting, the weaponry, is all modernized a bit to appeal to the new generation, but now overly like KHMK. In the end of the day, whether it is better or not than the old one, it is still Ramayan.
This is just my opinion.😊 I respect your opinion, but I only wrote this because you said you couldn't relate NDTV Ramayan to our culture.

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