6 jan: big things, little things

Originally posted by: estee

ooof! totally tension-packed episode, no? ooooof! and funny thing is, today's weakest part was the one with prem in it! 😲

Yes i also felt that was the weakest part why will explain below

* big thing: is lalit juneja finally gonna change??!

c'mon! he doesn't scream and bashan at heer during the felicitation ceremony. he doesn't scream and bashan afterwards at home -- or was that 'cause it's not his home anymore? he doesn't scream and bashan when heer comes with (disgusting, filthy, pathetic, not-worthy-of-being-majestic-ravan 😡) ratpal. he doesn't scream and bashan in public at all! he does it in private 👏 and he admits he has been wrong, wrong, wrong! 👏👏

Lalit Juneja can't change 😆😆😆 and i don't want him to change, if he changed who would we make fun of 😆😆😆

* big thing: gayatri-mom reacted to heer's action!!!! gayatri-mom reacted! she stood up in shock! um... wasn't that something? isn't that unusual? uh... um.. why am i the only one who is freaking out at this?

I can so relate gyatri's reaction to her love for Prem, Heer is her Prem's love, his everything, she had to react didn't she? Her reaction might mean more than one thing, she is shocked that heer can do something like this? and agree to marry there Enemy? The state she is in does she even realise what RR has done to their family? Or more likely Gyatri is sad/stunned by Heer's action because it tells her that even Heer has accepted that Prem is dead and she has to move on that leaves only Gyatri, i think Gyatri was too sad to realise that hence the reaction 😭

* little thing: heer crying in front of prem's picture at the ceremony. lakshman shielding his father and taking his father and his family away. both with their backs to each other, both in opposite directions that they've chosen. for some reason, that scene touched my heart.. made me sniffle..

Yea i so wish Preet had turned back to see her tears but hey RR actually did heer and everyone a favor by letting her so called fiance do the ceremony, i mean she deserved to do it for her Prem more than lalu 😆 i still cant help but wonder where were cool dude and his assistants at the time of picture ceremony? Dozing off? 😕

* little thing: um... never seen that tie on prem before. photoshop, anyone? 😆

* big thing: i still detest dirtchachi.

*sigh* didn't someone say the actress was pregnant? when does she go on maternity leave? oh please, please, please let it be soon! puh-leaaaase! i can't stand the hypocrisy, the hysteria, the teeth-grinding anymore... i can't. ts - puh-lease grow too large and need to take bedrest for the remainder of the pregnancy. please, please, please. *i can't believe i'm pining all my hopes for a better story on a pregnancy! 🤣*

LOL 😆😆😆 Honestly with all the dialogues about a mother's shraad and all she makes me go mad at the creatives. I mean what the hell are they trying to prove by her dialogues that how her shraad has come true and how Lalit will never see the happiness of his children and all! 😕🥱 I mean she is evil pure evil!!! And whats this talk about Prem leaving Ash in mandap? I mean didn't Ash a part of her mom's plan in decieving the juneja's? What else did she deserve? And she never wanted to marry Prem, Prem atleast was honest that he didn't love her even before the whole mandap scene! Weren't they after his money? So whats this DJ BS about? what do the creatives want to prove? 😡

* little thing: but y'know? didn't anyone else find it odd that everyone came home and just parked in the living room in silence?

i mean. you go through a very traumatic function. there is a ill person who was traumatised - and yet everyone's sitting around? waiting for what? such things never make sense to me - even though i know it happens on these shows all the time!

So typical how easily they ignore small details

* little thing: so did anyone else think there was some deep link to the ratpal secret in the pointed way he told preet not to call heer "bhabhi" 'cause he's not his half-brother?

back to lalit-juneja had many affairs and many illicit children theory anyone? 😆

ummm although we can expect anything from Lalu but i doubt it by the way i am so glad he didn't have a heart attack and die after hearing about heer's engagement *Phew* otherwise we would have lost a good source of entertainment 😆😆😆

* preet thing: yes, yes, yes! *fiercely yes* preet needs a thing. maybe preet has needed a thing for the longest time now. he was the hero of the show today. preet is lakshman. and now i realise: lakshman is the real hero of the ramayan. not ram. it wasn't ram at all. it was lakshman. and it was sita. preet, you rock.

i've adored prem. i've admired heer. but i see that i should have worshipped preet a lot more a long time ago. he tells dirtchachi to shut her filthy, rotten mouth. (politely - those adjectives are mine *i'll do situps as punishment later, preet, i promise*) that heer "bhabhi" wouldn't do anything like that. he tells meher firmly but kindly that it's not heer bhabhi's fault. note - here, he explicitly ignores ratpal's directive not to call heer bhabhi. he calls ratpal "tu" - no respect for sewer poop from mr. preet juneja, no siree! he tells ratpal that there will be no relationship between ratpal and heer bhabhi. *omg, i was whistling and applauding and causing enough noise for mom to call out an admonishing "esther" from downstairs* and after all that controlled fire from preet, he will shut up when his heer bhabhi tells him to.

'kay. i found my religion - i worship preet. *um... wiping the sweat off my brow... that's not too much, is't?* 😃

Preet is great no doubt, i always liked him but Prem is still Ram and the hero! why? because i think Prem is the one who completed Preet, loved him when everyone else thought he is useless, stood up for him and supported, nurtured him like a baby yet wanted to give him confidence to go and face the world. Having the trust in him and saying he will be a star one day when everyone else use to call him useless and what not! So Prem is the actual hero, who always brought the best out of his little bro Preet. But you can still go on with your new religion he is worth it 😆😆😆

* heer thing: wow! i mean, wow! heer turns dirtchachi. i knew she wasn't just listening obediently to that pile of poop -- she was observing and learning so that she could return the attitude one day. but with 10x the class and grace! seriously, i was sitting back and admiring the way heer "played dirtchachi". the same flashing taunting eyes. the same grinding teeth. but she didn't raise her voice - the voice was firm. she didn't spit venom - the taunts were totally upper-class. and the taunts were most cruel. it's as if she had identified the real weakness in everyone she targetted. the most graceful part was when she managed to silence lalit juneja's voice. the taunt .. flowed! from one target to the next - perfectly.

and that's the performance that made it crystal-clear for me: heer is royalty. and dirtchachi is ... scum. it's always been that way. and i think that dirtchachi has always known it! she probably saw the young heer -- and known that there was no way she could ever ever gain that kind of purity, that grace, that inborn blue-bloodedness. and that's the reason why dirtchachi has always hated heer. 'cause heer was always better than her and hers.

wow. heer - you are amazing.

separately, i must add this: i thought this was one of the best performances of ag-as-heer that i've ever seen. what was the best part? the way that she made heer shift from bright-eyed royal taunts at the junejas (even darling preet -- ram's lakshman, who had saved her once before when some scum wanted to fool around with her in prem's hotel. and will do it again soon) - to that totally natural smile at ratpal! did you see that smile? it was perfect - nothing fake or forced 'bout it. and then! when she has turned away from her family and is walking ratpal out, you can see that heer is beginning to cry again... 'kay, said this before, need to say it again -- ag is brilliant!

Yea AG was brilliant although i think Heer really didn't need to say all those things abt gyatri, preet and lalu but as far as her delivery and performance was concerned it was great 👏👏👏

* little thing: i detest vitchface - "how can you marry the person who insulted me?" -- *yawn* nothing new today. *where is that damned blackhole?? 😡*

Veera is not even worth a comment 😡

* little thing: meher - i felt sorry for her today.

'cause y'know what today reminded me of? of the day that heer gave herself up to be jailed just so that prem's wealth and reputation will be preserved. so that his family will remain safe and secure. that day, heer gave herself up - without thought for herself and her own - for prem. she's doing that again today. and meher is in exactly the same spot as she was in that day too. abandoned by her sister.

except that this time, heer is leaving meher in safer hands - preet's. heer actually doesn't have to worry 'bout meher at all. and i think meher will not understand her sister this time either. but she may accept her actions a little better. after all, this time she knows how much prem-heer-are-one. here's to hoping that meher has grown up too...

I don't feel sorry for Meher, i think Heer has always done more for her but meher never stood up for her, remember the mandap scene? She didn't even move to protect her, when prem died she was no where to support her, too busy thinking abt Harman 😡 Heer started working just for Meher and her study that one thing Heer did for herself was give herself up to be jailed because she loved Prem and even than Meher never tried to understand her! And even yesterday she didn't understand her! Doesn't she know Heer:? Doesn't she know money means nothing to her? Doesn't she not know that how muuch heer loved Prem and how she can never do anything like this to his family? Still she went on and on asking her why she did that 😡

* little thing: um... was anyone else totally 🤣 at the prem-and-his-assistants characters today?

these are supposed to be ... uh .. grown men? boys? with jobs? living at home, rented or otherwise? worried 'bout what home-people will say when they get back? uh... exactly what kind of grown guys are these?? my gang do not behave like that! the contrast between the assistants and prem made my head hurt actually.. the difference is so exaggerated, i know there's something fake going on here...

yea, i don't want to say bad things abt the cool dude as i promised to give him a chance but he is still a jerk 😆😆😆

* little thing: 'kay, someone please go hc lessons on how to be a cool dude?

i don't care 'bout the current prem-facade. the late nights. the parties. the drinking. 'cause apparently that's what the character is supposed to do. but what comes across clear, as clear as the water under the ice in a lake in montana in winter 😆 is that mr hc has had little experience being the cool dude in real life. and apparently his directors are too carried away with the entire hc is a genius actor aura to tell him how to play the role! i mean, did he have to shout "pack-up" or "let's party" that loudly???!

Ummm you are right but i think its not how it appears to be, i think Gurav is not Gurav, either he is faking a memory loss and is delibrately trying to act like a cool dude or even if he actually has a memory loss he is not the cool dude he appears to be! He is just pretending to be a cool dude infront of his assistant but is actually quite sad and different when alone (Hint hint remember the sad, confused, lost Prem in Jaisalmir? that is when he was alone) and hence that explains what looks like over acting to us 😆 i mean he is not a cool dude, he just acts to be one to hide himself, to hide what he actually is going through! So harshad is not acting bad, he is just acting the chrachter! When we pretend to be someone we are not, we do act weird don't we? From hating him, i have actually started feeling for him 😭😭😭

and i'm right about hc obsessing with his new look! while he was taking the tape to it's case, he was actually flicking up his hair!! argh!! someone shave that guy's head! *um... 'kay, i take that back... 😆.. he looks chabboo enough with hair this short. i'll probably want to stuff him into a pram and stick a bottle of milk into his mouth before taking him out on a stroll, if he cuts it any shorter. what? why're you looking at me like that?? never made money baby-sitting before? 🤣*

* w&w thing: i can hardly wait to see today's episode! i do hope we get to see what prem's real after-job life is like! and i guess i'm also curious to see whether gayatri-mom'sgonna say something to heer when heer cries in her lap... if prem-heer-are-one and gayatri-mom's treated heer like prem a couple of times already, will gayatri-mom do one of her prem-treatments to heer? so badly wanting to see tomorrow's episode soon! 😍

I think gyatri would understand heer though i don't think she would react just yet afterall its ekta serial 😆

highlight of the episode: no questions asked: preet, preet, preet. preet saying "there will never be any relationship between heer bhabhi and you" to ratpal. *go preet!*

He is so right, isn't he? 😆😉😉

Originally posted by: estee

ooof! totally tension-packed episode, no? ooooof! and funny thing is, today's weakest part was the one with prem in it! 😲

* big thing: is lalit juneja finally gonna change??!

c'mon! he doesn't scream and bashan at heer during the felicitation ceremony. he doesn't scream and bashan afterwards at home -- or was that 'cause it's not his home anymore? he doesn't scream and bashan when heer comes with (disgusting, filthy, pathetic, not-worthy-of-being-majestic-ravan 😡) ratpal. he doesn't scream and bashan in public at all! he does it in private 👏 and he admits he has been wrong, wrong, wrong! 👏👏
I was totally surprised by Lallu's restraint to spew out some rant like "Yeh sab dekne se pehle zaameen kyun nahi phat gaya, aasmaan kyun nahi gir gaya, bhukam kyun nahi aagaya..etc" Very interesting how he decided to stay silent lol.

* big thing: gayatri-mom reacted to heer's action!!!! gayatri-mom reacted! she stood up in shock! um... wasn't that something? isn't that unusual? uh... um.. why am i the only one who is freaking out at this?

* little thing: heer crying in front of prem's picture at the ceremony. lakshman shielding his father and taking his father and his family away. both with their backs to each other, both in opposite directions that they've chosen. for some reason, that scene touched my heart.. made me sniffle..

* little thing: um... never seen that tie on prem before. photoshop, anyone? 😆

* big thing: i still detest dirtchachi.
LOL duude I don't understand why she always wants to be involved in other people's drama,,, lol she's such wannabe.. like she just wants to pretend like she's apart of it so she can use her clever ryhming lines 😛.

*sigh* didn't someone say the actress was pregnant? when does she go on maternity leave? oh please, please, please let it be soon! puh-leaaaase! i can't stand the hypocrisy, the hysteria, the teeth-grinding anymore... i can't. ts - puh-lease grow too large and need to take bedrest for the remainder of the pregnancy. please, please, please. *i can't believe i'm pining all my hopes for a better story on a pregnancy! 🤣*
Arn't pregnant ladies not supposed to take on so much stress.. I mean surely the dialogues she has where she has to put so much energy into screaming at people must make her tired.. lol she should go on a leave... Ekta's overworking her 🥱 ...
Tasneen is going to be a mommy soon.. she shouldn't let the bura aasar of DJ go on the baby!

* little thing: but y'know? didn't anyone else find it odd that everyone came home and just parked in the living room in silence?

i mean. you go through a very traumatic function. there is a ill person who was traumatised - and yet everyone's sitting around? waiting for what? such things never make sense to me - even though i know it happens on these shows all the time!

* little thing: so did anyone else think there was some deep link to the ratpal secret in the pointed way he told preet not to call heer "bhabhi" 'cause he's not his half-brother?
Hmmm interesting I thought there was something fishy aobout that too.

back to lalit-juneja had many affairs and many illicit children theory anyone? 😆
lol imagining lallu as a player in his young days.. lol. 🤔

* preet thing: yes, yes, yes! *fiercely yes* preet needs a thing. maybe preet has needed a thing for the longest time now. he was the hero of the show today. preet is lakshman. and now i realise: lakshman is the real hero of the ramayan. not ram. it wasn't ram at all. it was lakshman. and it was sita. preet, you rock.
I wish I could go through the TV and give him a big HUG! lol he is a hero 😍 The way he was ready to rip Ratpal's throat out was amazing lol!

i've adored prem. i've admired heer. but i see that i should have worshipped preet a lot more a long time ago. he tells dirtchachi to shut her filthy, rotten mouth. (politely - those adjectives are mine *i'll do situps as punishment later, preet, i promise*) that heer "bhabhi" wouldn't do anything like that. he tells meher firmly but kindly that it's not heer bhabhi's fault.
It's a shame that Preet has to tell Meher that her sister is innocent! Stupid Meher doesn't use her brain.
note - here, he explicitly ignores ratpal's directive not to call heer bhabhi. he calls ratpal "tu" - no respect for sewer poop from mr. preet juneja, no siree! he tells ratpal that there will be no relationship between ratpal and heer bhabhi. *omg, i was whistling and applauding and causing enough noise for mom to call out an admonishing "esther" from downstairs* and after all that controlled fire from preet, he will shut up when his heer bhabhi tells him to.

'kay. i found my religion - i worship preet. *um... wiping the sweat off my brow... that's not too much, is't?* 😃

* heer thing: wow! i mean, wow! heer turns dirtchachi. i knew she wasn't just listening obediently to that pile of poop -- she was observing and learning so that she could return the attitude one day. but with 10x the class and grace! seriously, i was sitting back and admiring the way heer "played dirtchachi". the same flashing taunting eyes. the same grinding teeth. but she didn't raise her voice - the voice was firm. she didn't spit venom - the taunts were totally upper-class. and the taunts were most cruel. it's as if she had identified the real weakness in everyone she targetted. the most graceful part was when she managed to silence lalit juneja's voice. the taunt .. flowed! from one target to the next - perfectly.
I was soo proud of Heer, even thoughh the things she said where mean, I was just proud of her for being strong and assertive and not just standing there and weeping like a baby.

and that's the performance that made it crystal-clear for me: heer is royalty. and dirtchachi is ... scum. it's always been that way. and i think that dirtchachi has always known it! she probably saw the young heer -- and known that there was no way she could ever ever gain that kind of purity, that grace, that inborn blue-bloodedness. and that's the reason why dirtchachi has always hated heer. 'cause heer was always better than her and hers.

wow. heer - you are amazing.

separately, i must add this: i thought this was one of the best performances of ag-as-heer that i've ever seen. what was the best part? the way that she made heer shift from bright-eyed royal taunts at the junejas (even darling preet -- ram's lakshman, who had saved her once before when some scum wanted to fool around with her in prem's hotel. and will do it again soon) - to that totally natural smile at ratpal! did you see that smile? it was perfect - nothing fake or forced 'bout it. and then! when she has turned away from her family and is walking ratpal out, you can see that heer is beginning to cry again... 'kay, said this before, need to say it again -- ag is brilliant!
Oh gosh but you know the part where Heer put's her hand on ratty's shoulder and says "Rishab rampal can give me happiness" or w/e... I honestly felt like throwing up... ughhhh I was like "eww no don't touch him Heer... he's scum" and how she had to utter those nice things about Rishab YUKKKKK!

* little thing: i detest vitchface - "how can you marry the person who insulted me?" -- *yawn* nothing new today. *where is that damned blackhole?? 😡*

* little thing: meher - i felt sorry for her today.

'cause y'know what today reminded me of? of the day that heer gave herself up to be jailed just so that prem's wealth and reputation will be preserved. so that his family will remain safe and secure. that day, heer gave herself up - without thought for herself and her own - for prem. she's doing that again today. and meher is in exactly the same spot as she was in that day too. abandoned by her sister.
You know what's weird I just watched that episode where she went to jail last night on youtube (It's b/c I was really missing some good old Prem and Heer moments), but the thing is it doesn't seem like Meher really care if anything happens to her sister.... meher has already abandoned her because lately they barely show Meher feeling any concern for her sister. Lol I mean today she went up to Lallu to as Preet's attorney to tell him why preet was late coming downstairs and to not throw the coat in the fire b/c Preet bought it. She didn't bother to say one word aobut her Heerdi! it made me cery disapointed.. Shame on you Meher!

except that this time, heer is leaving meher in safer hands - preet's. heer actually doesn't have to worry 'bout meher at all. and i think meher will not understand her sister this time either. but she may accept her actions a little better. after all, this time she knows how much prem-heer-are-one. here's to hoping that meher has grown up too...

* little thing: um... was anyone else totally 🤣 at the prem-and-his-assistants characters today?

these are supposed to be ... uh .. grown men? boys? with jobs? living at home, rented or otherwise? worried 'bout what home-people will say when they get back? uh... exactly what kind of grown guys are these?? my gang do not behave like that! the contrast between the assistants and prem made my head hurt actually.. the difference is so exaggerated, i know there's something fake going on here...
LOL same thing I was thinking, do these "men" have a curfew or something lol and Gaurav is supposed to be the kid with the cool parents that don't care when he comes home.. gosh I don't know lol. But I think that the guy;s that he works with are supposed to be in their late teens or something.. and Gaurav's trying to fit in.

* little thing: 'kay, someone please go hc lessons on how to be a cool dude?
Lol I love HC but him trying to act as a "cool dude" comes off as a hyper little 13 year old like in today's scene I thought he was overdoing it a bit.. it made me laugh lol.Maybe he;s faking ML and trying really hard to act like a hip and happening guy lol.. because we know prem wasn't hip and happening.. he was smart, dashing, amazing, handsome...etc.. lol I could go on forever about Prem if I could 😳

i don't care 'bout the current prem-facade. the late nights. the parties. the drinking. 'cause apparently that's what the character is supposed to do. but what comes across clear, as clear as the water under the ice in a lake in montana in winter 😆 is that mr hc has had little experience being the cool dude in real life. and apparently his directors are too carried away with the entire hc is a genius actor aura to tell him how to play the role! i mean, did he have to shout "pack-up" or "let's party" that loudly???!
LOL!

and i'm right about hc obsessing with his new look! while he was taking the tape to it's case, he was actually flicking up his hair!! argh!! someone shave that guy's head! *um... 'kay, i take that back... 😆.. he looks chabboo enough with hair this short. i'll probably want to stuff him into a pram and stick a bottle of milk into his mouth before taking him out on a stroll, if he cuts it any shorter. what? why're you looking at me like that?? never made money baby-sitting before? 🤣*
LOL maybe his new hair is really bugging him... lol I mean it is pretty long.. that's why he keeps touching it? lol I dunno I think maybe the creatives are telling him to constantly fix his hair.. maybe there;s been a shortage in Makeup/Hair people. It saves time if he does it during shots... ?

* w&w thing: i can hardly wait to see today's episode! i do hope we get to see what prem's real after-job life is like! and i guess i'm also curious to see whether gayatri-mom'sgonna say something to heer when heer cries in her lap... if prem-heer-are-one and gayatri-mom's treated heer like prem a couple of times already, will gayatri-mom do one of her prem-treatments to heer? so badly wanting to see tomorrow's episode soon! 😍

highlight of the episode: no questions asked: preet, preet, preet. preet saying "there will never be any relationship between heer bhabhi and you" to ratpal. *go preet!*

Originally posted by: estee

ooof! totally tension-packed episode, no?

naaaaa.... itr was hillarious... watched 3/4th in mute... trust me its a refreshing change and quite funny😆😆

ooooof! and funny thing is, today's weakest part was the one with prem in it! 😲

ok it wasnt natural but then bnothing has been natural in the show since... since i dont know when!!!!!

* big thing: is lalit juneja finally gonna change??!

lalit juneja and change - if that hapens, then an analysis on prem - heer scenes just for you

c'mon! he doesn't scream and bashan at heer during the felicitation ceremony. he doesn't scream and bashan afterwards at home -- or was that 'cause it's not his home anymore? he doesn't scream and bashan when heer comes with (disgusting, filthy, pathetic, not-worthy-of-being-majestic-ravan 😡) ratpal. he doesn't scream and bashan in public at all! he does it in private 👏 and he admits he has been wrong, wrong, wrong! 👏👏

lalit can never admit he has been wrong. He went to the room because his ego took a beating. He couldnt reconcile to the fact that heer spoke like that, that heer was wrong...

* big thing: gayatri-mom reacted to heer's action!!!! gayatri-mom reacted! she stood up in shock! um... wasn't that something? isn't that unusual? uh... um.. why am i the only one who is freaking out at this?

* little thing: heer crying in front of prem's picture at the ceremony. lakshman shielding his father and taking his father and his family away. both with their backs to each other, both in opposite directions that they've chosen. for some reason, that scene touched my heart.. made me sniffle..

preet scene touched me like they always did... heer crying with RR smilrking... watched that part on mute and here's what i thought - for how long will heer keep on crying, when will they show cinema. and why the hell does that RR have that smirk... it also made me think that we are into the second week of January.... and in the year 2009... Its been 4 months since RR made an entry and we still dont know what are his real reason for hating the junejas.... i think the creatives are themselves not sure ... and its telling on the storyline period. They need to pull their socks up period and they need to pull up fast...

* little thing: um... never seen that tie on prem before. photoshop, anyone? 😆

* big thing: i still detest dirtchachi.

*sigh* didn't someone say the actress was pregnant? when does she go on maternity leave? oh please, please, please let it be soon! puh-leaaaase! i can't stand the hypocrisy, the hysteria, the teeth-grinding anymore... i can't. ts - puh-lease grow too large and need to take bedrest for the remainder of the pregnancy. please, please, please. *i can't believe i'm pining all my hopes for a better story on a pregnancy! 🤣*

🤣 i need a spaceship too...

BTW has any one notced that kis desh has by fair more negative and grey characters than any other show.....no wonder the trps are just not there like they used to be before....

* little thing: but y'know? didn't anyone else find it odd that everyone came home and just parked in the living room in silence?
i mean. you go through a very traumatic function. there is a ill person who was traumatised - and yet everyone's sitting around? waiting for what? such things never make sense to me - even though i know it happens on these shows all the time!

aree they were waiting for heer to come and say her bashan to them...no seriously but it didnt makje sense and kis desh has never made sense to me since i dont know when....

* little thing: so did anyone else think there was some deep link to the ratpal secret in the pointed way he told preet not to call heer "bhabhi" 'cause he's not his half-brother?

huh? one more deep link... so you think the enemity could be not because of sanjana but because RR & Preet are step brothers indeed??? could it be the reason for enemity be that RR dad was in love with lalits first wife? could it be that RRs dad and lalits wife were in love before lalits first wife married lalit ???? could be no??? (well if the creative is the same as that of KTH - i am sure this is what has crossed her mind)

could it be that RR father had a clandenstine affair with lalits junehas first affair, by prodict was RR who was abondoned..

eeeks, i am watching too much of BT, hence i am thinking like then.. ok 9 pm, when shall you come...

back to lalit-juneja had many affairs and many illicit children theory anyone? 😆

could be .... with you on that....

* preet thing: yes, yes, yes! *fiercely yes* preet needs a thing. maybe preet has needed a thing for the longest time now. he was the hero of the show today. preet is lakshman. and now i realise: lakshman is the real hero of the ramayan. not ram. it wasn't ram at all. it was lakshman. and it was sita. preet, you rock.

i've adored prem. i've admired heer. but i see that i should have worshipped preet a lot more a long time ago. he tells dirtchachi to shut her filthy, rotten mouth. (politely - those adjectives are mine *i'll do situps as punishment later, preet, i promise*) that heer "bhabhi" wouldn't do anything like that. he tells meher firmly but kindly that it's not heer bhabhi's fault. note - here, he explicitly ignores ratpal's directive not to call heer bhabhi. he calls ratpal "tu" - no respect for sewer poop from mr. preet juneja, no siree! he tells ratpal that there will be no relationship between ratpal and heer bhabhi. *omg, i was whistling and applauding and causing enough noise for mom to call out an admonishing "esther" from downstairs* and after all that controlled fire from preet, he will shut up when his heer bhabhi tells him to.

'kay. i found my religion - i worship preet. *um... wiping the sweat off my brow... that's not too much, is't?* 😃

I join you there.... preet is the only sane character left in the show.....he is the only character who i think is the strongest character so far left in the show....you know esteee, i shall download this part - just for preet....saw this part in mute and the expressions were worth a watch.....they were something to die for

* heer thing: wow! i mean, wow! heer turns dirtchachi. i knew she wasn't just listening obediently to that pile of poop -- she was observing and learning so that she could return the attitude one day. but with 10x the class and grace! seriously, i was sitting back and admiring the way heer "played dirtchachi". the same flashing taunting eyes. the same grinding teeth. but she didn't raise her voice - the voice was firm. she didn't spit venom - the taunts were totally upper-class. and the taunts were most cruel. it's as if she had identified the real weakness in everyone she targetted. the most graceful part was when she managed to silence lalit juneja's voice. the taunt .. flowed! from one target to the next - perfectly.

and that's the performance that made it crystal-clear for me: heer is royalty. and dirtchachi is ... scum. it's always been that way. and i think that dirtchachi has always known it! she probably saw the young heer -- and known that there was no way she could ever ever gain that kind of purity, that grace, that inborn blue-bloodedness. and that's the reason why dirtchachi has always hated heer. 'cause heer was always better than her and hers.

wow. heer - you are amazing.

separately, i must add this: i thought this was one of the best performances of ag-as-heer that i've ever seen. what was the best part? the way that she made heer shift from bright-eyed royal taunts at the junejas (even darling preet -- ram's lakshman, who had saved her once before when some scum wanted to fool around with her in prem's hotel. and will do it again soon) - to that totally natural smile at ratpal! did you see that smile? it was perfect - nothing fake or forced 'bout it. and then! when she has turned away from her family and is walking ratpal out, you can see that heer is beginning to cry again... 'kay, said this before, need to say it again -- ag is brilliant!

i put the voliume on .. and as soon as i put it on.. i regretted it.. it was totally unlike heer but there was defiance in her voice as also a cry, a plea for help as if telling the junejas ... wake up now before its too late and do something about my life because i cant do it alone, i need you to do it....

* little thing: i detest vitchface - "how can you marry the person who insulted me?" -- *yawn* nothing new today. *where is that damned blackhole?? 😡*

errr she finally realized that RR insulted her...

* little thing: meher - i felt sorry for her today.

'cause y'know what today reminded me of? of the day that heer gave herself up to be jailed just so that prem's wealth and reputation will be preserved. so that his family will remain safe and secure. that day, heer gave herself up - without thought for herself and her own - for prem. she's doing that again today. and meher is in exactly the same spot as she was in that day too. abandoned by her sister.

except that this time, heer is leaving meher in safer hands - preet's. heer actually doesn't have to worry 'bout meher at all. and i think meher will not understand her sister this time either. but she may accept her actions a little better. after all, this time she knows how much prem-heer-are-one. here's to hoping that meher has grown up too...

meher has matured.....but her character and her reactions are not making sense... she was very expressionless... but yep she will the link that wull bind lalit to his son preet...

* little thing: um... was anyone else totally 🤣 at the prem-and-his-assistants characters today?

these are supposed to be ... uh .. grown men? boys? with jobs? living at home, rented or otherwise? worried 'bout what home-people will say when they get back? uh... exactly what kind of grown guys are these?? my gang do not behave like that! the contrast between the assistants and prem made my head hurt actually.. the difference is so exaggerated, i know there's something fake going on here...

i think its a put on act, i think he is staying with the junejas.... i think and i keep on thinking....

prem and his assiustant were behaving like any interns would..prem may jyust be behaving like this cool dude, who likes going out, who loves living life to the fullest - the profession is such after all....

* little thing: 'kay, someone please go hc lessons on how to be a cool dude?

i don't care 'bout the current prem-facade. the late nights. the parties. the drinking. 'cause apparently that's what the character is supposed to do. but what comes across clear, as clear as the water under the ice in a lake in montana in winter 😆 is that mr hc has had little experience being the cool dude in real life. and apparently his directors are too carried away with the entire hc is a genius actor aura to tell him how to play the role! i mean, did he have to shout "pack-up" or "let's party" that loudly???!

it wasnt loud, it was not too loud... it was his way of reacting after a hard night of work... it was a sigh of happiness, a sign of relief, a sign of excitement???

and i'm right about hc obsessing with his new look! while he was taking the tape to it's case, he was actually flicking up his hair!! argh!! someone shave that guy's head! *um... 'kay, i take that back... 😆.. he looks chabboo enough with hair this short. i'll probably want to stuff him into a pram and stick a bottle of milk into his mouth before taking him out on a stroll, if he cuts it any shorter. what? why're you looking at me like that?? never made money baby-sitting before? 🤣

i thought it was cool, i thought it was hep... and i loved this attitude - slightly arrogant guy...btw i would like to see him in white - AGAIN....

* w&w thing: i can hardly wait to see today's episode! i do hope we get to see what prem's real after-job life is like! and i guess i'm also curious to see whether gayatri-mom'sgonna say something to heer when heer cries in her lap... if prem-heer-are-one and gayatri-mom's treated heer like prem a couple of times already, will gayatri-mom do one of her prem-treatments to heer? so badly wanting to see tomorrow's episode soon! 😍

highlight of the episode: no questions asked: preet, preet, preet. preet saying "there will never be any relationship between heer bhabhi and you" to ratpal. *go preet!*

ditto

Originally posted by: estee

hello estee...good to see u 😃
ooof! totally tension-packed episode, no? ooooof! and funny thing is, today's weakest part was the one with prem in it! 😲yeah sadly it is!!!!

* big thing: is lalit juneja finally gonna change??! never!!!

c'mon! he doesn't scream and bashan at heer during the felicitation ceremony. he doesn't scream and bashan afterwards at home -- or was that 'cause it's not his home anymore? he doesn't scream and bashan when heer comes with (disgusting, filthy, pathetic, not-worthy-of-being-majestic-ravan 😡) ratpal. he doesn't scream and bashan in public at all! he does it in private 👏 and he admits he has been wrong, wrong, wrong! 👏👏
dat was da only thing i agree wid him..... his i'm wrong,wrong,wrong..... was sumthing dat made me say"yes u r right,for once i agree wid u"
n lack of shouting from him...was surprise...coz he loves to create scenes in parties n functions.... but then mayb it was only meant for prem..... so unlike g'mom n us...he does'nt think premeer r one.... but it was good he din't do wat he did to prem....
* big thing: gayatri-mom reacted to heer's action!!!! gayatri-mom reacted! she stood up in shock! um... wasn't that something? isn't that unusual? uh... um.. why am i the only one who is freaking out at this?
yeah..... she got up shocked.... n reacted wid every1 else.... da shock of it... her prem's heer getting engaged to sum1else...dat too da family's biggest dushman? more than dat.... it would b da same rxn from if prem would've done sumthnig like dat.... again she proves how much she thinks premeer r one😃

* little thing: heer crying in front of prem's picture at the ceremony. lakshman shielding his father and taking his father and his family away. both with their backs to each other, both in opposite directions that they've chosen. for some reason, that scene touched my heart.. made me sniffle..
ahhh.... it was sad..... n it angered me for da reason dat... not a single person stayed wid her then.... not her bro,not her sis..... preet obviously has to support his father..... but dat turning back against her meant leaving her alone wid da worst compromise of her life.... but prem was there wid her then... as a pic... but there smiling😃..... ok i'm getting too much into this....

* little thing: um... never seen that tie on prem before. photoshop, anyone? 😆

* big thing: i still detest dirtchachi.

*sigh* didn't someone say the actress was pregnant? when does she go on maternity leave? oh please, please, please let it be soon! puh-leaaaase! i can't stand the hypocrisy, the hysteria, the teeth-grinding anymore... i can't. ts - puh-lease grow too large and need to take bedrest for the remainder of the pregnancy. please, please, please. *i can't believe i'm pining all my hopes for a better story on a pregnancy! 🤣* i don't want to talk abt her..... yesterday i really preffered watching lallu talk but not her..... i simply can't stand her.... next time dj appers i sure am gonna break sumthing....

* little thing: but y'know? didn't anyone else find it odd that everyone came home and just parked in the living room in silence?

i mean. you go through a very traumatic function. there is a ill person who was traumatised - and yet everyone's sitting around? waiting for what? such things never make sense to me - even though i know it happens on these shows all the time! yeah.... they always do dat.... they were waiting for heer.... they decided to speak only when heer arrives.... but in da meantime dj spoke quite alot... so it must b dat... they were telling dj wat happened all this while.... n it was very painful n then fell silent.... so we were shown from da part they were silent?😆

* little thing: so did anyone else think there was some deep link to the ratpal secret in the pointed way he told preet not to call heer "bhabhi" 'cause he's not his half-brother?

back to lalit-juneja had many affairs and many illicit children theory anyone? 😆 well..... i once did support this theory.... n sumwhere deep down i still do😆

* preet thing: yes, yes, yes! *fiercely yes* preet needs a thing. maybe preet has needed a thing for the longest time now. he was the hero of the show today. preet is lakshman. and now i realise: lakshman is the real hero of the ramayan. not ram. it wasn't ram at all. it was lakshman. and it was sita. preet, you rock. nooooooo it's always.... ram.sita.lakshman.... ohhh i'd rather say... it's always prem.heer.preet..... i truely truely adore this guy... n wat he';s being doing off late is commandable(i know dat's an understatement) but i still stick to it dat... preet's almost prem.... not more...not less either.....

i've adored prem. i've admired heer. but i see that i should have worshipped preet a lot more a long time ago. he tells dirtchachi to shut her filthy, rotten mouth. (politely - those adjectives are mine *i'll do situps as punishment later, preet, i promise*) that heer "bhabhi" wouldn't do anything like that. he tells meher firmly but kindly that it's not heer bhabhi's fault. note - here, he explicitly ignores ratpal's directive not to call heer bhabhi. he calls ratpal "tu" - no respect for sewer poop from mr. preet juneja, no siree! he tells ratpal that there will be no relationship between ratpal and heer bhabhi. *omg, i was whistling and applauding and causing enough noise for mom to call out an admonishing "esther" from downstairs* and after all that controlled fire from preet, he will shut up when his heer bhabhi tells him to.

'kay. i found my religion - i worship preet. *um... wiping the sweat off my brow... that's not too much, is't?* 😃 my my estee..... mmm.... so now u'd start hating meet too?? i remeber u saying dat this could b considered a possibilty... so materalising now??...... but really... dat guy's trust in his bhabhi was 👏
even meher questioned her but he din't..... n even now i'm sure he knows heer can't do nything of dat sorts n is under pressure...... all i'm waiting for is this suspicion of his getting confirmed..... he would make sure heer does'nt do this sacrifice..... but do u think he'll b more hurt once he gets to know of heer's real intentions?? meaning... again he was being deprived of da chance to fight for his family n help them??

* heer thing: wow! i mean, wow! heer turns dirtchachi. i knew she wasn't just listening obediently to that pile of poop -- she was observing and learning so that she could return the attitude one day. but with 10x the class and grace! seriously, i was sitting back and admiring the way heer "played dirtchachi". the same flashing taunting eyes. the same grinding teeth. but she didn't raise her voice - the voice was firm. she didn't spit venom - the taunts were totally upper-class. and the taunts were most cruel. it's as if she had identified the real weakness in everyone she targetted. the most graceful part was when she managed to silence lalit juneja's voice. the taunt .. flowed! from one target to the next - perfectly.

and that's the performance that made it crystal-clear for me: heer is royalty. and dirtchachi is ... scum. it's always been that way. and i think that dirtchachi has always known it! she probably saw the young heer -- and known that there was no way she could ever ever gain that kind of purity, that grace, that inborn blue-bloodedness. and that's the reason why dirtchachi has always hated heer. 'cause heer was always better than her and hers.

wow. heer - you are amazing.

separately, i must add this: i thought this was one of the best performances of ag-as-heer that i've ever seen. what was the best part? the way that she made heer shift from bright-eyed royal taunts at the junejas (even darling preet -- ram's lakshman, who had saved her once before when some scum wanted to fool around with her in prem's hotel. and will do it again soon) - to that totally natural smile at ratpal! did you see that smile? it was perfect - nothing fake or forced 'bout it. and then! when she has turned away from her family and is walking ratpal out, you can see that heer is beginning to cry again... 'kay, said this before, need to say it again -- ag is brilliant! ag's acting was awsum.... no doubts there.... but wat all she said was.... painful dude!! i don't think she needed to b dat rude.... or say all dat.... but well... could b RR's pressure!!! n she is in a tight spot now..... i hope she makes RR return da property b4 their marriage preparations.... coz he sure can turn plates after marriage(i know ravan-sita marriage will not happen... but it's his mind-set dat is so) i have a bad feeling dat this misunderstanding stuff will take quite along.... n mayb in da mandap prem's discovered n heer happily brings him home.... but every1 will b bitter towrds heer.... n this one will never tell da truth??

* little thing: i detest vitchface - "how can you marry the person who insulted me?" -- *yawn* nothing new today. *where is that damned blackhole?? 😡*being lallu's daughter ....she reacted exactly as i thought she would..... 😡

* little thing: meher - i felt sorry for her today.

'cause y'know what today reminded me of? of the day that heer gave herself up to be jailed just so that prem's wealth and reputation will be preserved. so that his family will remain safe and secure. that day, heer gave herself up - without thought for herself and her own - for prem. she's doing that again today. and meher is in exactly the same spot as she was in that day too. abandoned by her sister.

except that this time, heer is leaving meher in safer hands - preet's. heer actually doesn't have to worry 'bout meher at all. and i think meher will not understand her sister this time either. but she may accept her actions a little better. after all, this time she knows how much prem-heer-are-one. here's to hoping that meher has grown up too...welll.... i sumhow could'nt like meher as i used to ie during da initial parts of da show...i liked her more then.... after harman fiasco... there r still sum complaints abt her lingering around.... but then meet is growing li'l by li'l on me.... major contribution to preet..... but yes.... i do like meher.... but not a word in defence of her sister?? asking for benifit-of-doubt of sorts atleast..... so easily she accepted heer moved over?? dat too to RR?? n bigggg thing is when heer said she wanted 'ash aur aaram zindgi n only RR can gimme dat' y din't they think... y only RR if wat she wants is a luxurious life? he ain't da only richie they know? doesn't these thing look fishy for them?? i srsly... don't get these ppl!!!

* little thing: um... was anyone else totally 🤣 at the prem-and-his-assistants characters today?
meeeeeeeeeee😆😆😆😆

these are supposed to be ... uh .. grown men? boys? with jobs? living at home, rented or otherwise? worried 'bout what home-people will say when they get back? uh... exactly what kind of grown guys are these?? my gang do not behave like that! the contrast between the assistants and prem made my head hurt actually.. the difference is so exaggerated, i know there's something fake going on here... exactly... it was forced.... n total made up.... but is it dat prem faking it or gaurav faking it? u get my question? i dunno how to put it properly..😆

* little thing: 'kay, someone please go hc lessons on how to be a cool dude?

i don't care 'bout the current prem-facade. the late nights. the parties. the drinking. 'cause apparently that's what the character is supposed to do. but what comes across clear, as clear as the water under the ice in a lake in montana in winter 😆 is that mr hc has had little experience being the cool dude in real life. and apparently his directors are too carried away with the entire hc is a genius actor aura to tell him how to play the role! i mean, did he have to shout "pack-up" or "let's party" that loudly???!
as i said i think creatives r very confused as to how to confuse us..... in dat process they r confusing HC too..... i'm sure if not for prem-bhoot getting into gaurav once in a while he would've pulled it effortlessly.....
thing is once they r asking him to act as prem n then next sec they asking him to be an over da top guy as in gaurav..... so it is difficult for perfect prem to bcum not perfect gaurav in an instant.... so hc is struggling there.... coz he himself ain't able to understand who he is supposedly playing during a scene....

and i'm right about hc obsessing with his new look! while he was taking the tape to it's case, he was actually flicking up his hair!! argh!! someone shave that guy's head! *um... 'kay, i take that back... 😆.. he looks chabboo enough with hair this short. i'll probably want to stuff him into a pram and stick a bottle of milk into his mouth before taking him out on a stroll, if he cuts it any shorter. what? why're you looking at me like that?? never made money baby-sitting before? 🤣* no never.... given a chance i would baby-sit this particular guy.... n give dat money to dj n shoo her off from j-zoo.... so i get hc... n dj out... hey...is'nt dat good?

* w&w thing: i can hardly wait to see today's episode! i do hope we get to see what prem's real after-job life is like! and i guess i'm also curious to see whether gayatri-mom'sgonna say something to heer when heer cries in her lap... if prem-heer-are-one and gayatri-mom's treated heer like prem a couple of times already, will gayatri-mom do one of her prem-treatments to heer? so badly wanting to see tomorrow's episode soon! 😍yeah.... i really wanna see prem widout his assistants... wid his present family n when he is alone.... as for g'mom rxn... i'm eagerly waiting... but right now she won't react.... mayb put a hand on heer's head but no talking.... even this gesture..i'm not sure....

highlight of the episode: no questions asked: preet, preet, preet. preet saying "there will never be any relationship between heer bhabhi and you" to ratpal. *go preet!* undoubtedly..... he rocked!!!!⭐️
ahhh..... see ive my exams on.... but still here... can't stay from here.... n can't help replying to ur post.... see ya estee.... take care!!!😃

Originally posted by: riks1

come back prem.😭... come back😭... before these stupid creatives make you loose completely..... 😆 you reminded me of heer on the rajasthan dunes in the storm... somehow, i feel like prem's gonna "come back" today. just 'cause of that... 😆 no you're not the only one freaking out at this.....i was surprised that she reacted to something other than prem....but as prem heer are one....i digested this also....😆 i thought it was great that she was actually reacting! and no one in her family seemed to notice. i guess everyone was totally shocked at heer being called 🤢🤢🤢 "mrs. heer r. ratpal". 🤢🤢🤢 idiot. i guess even ravan did all such drama in ramayan... but eugh, that was beyond gross... 🤢 illicit children.....well lalu doesn't look like a person with the calbre who can have many affairs 😆 you'd be surprised -- lots of forum members think that he had a whole line of women after him in his ...um... "youth".... whenever that was... 😆 i really worship him now.... then look out for a new "concept" at the preet appreciation thread... a religion's gonna begin.. there's gonna be an audition for a (drumroll) priest! 🤣 .... but i don't wanna let too much out of the bag right now... that was pack up and lets drink.....and at the end it was let rock yeah, well, whatever it was, it was at around 120 dB.... owww!!! didn't you feel worry about his assistant's hearing at the end??? i feel a lawsuit against hc coming up rsn... 😆

Originally posted by: Soaps1

Lalit Juneja can't change 😆 and i don't want him to change, if he changed who would we make fun of

😆 seems to be a universal feeling around here....😆

Her reaction might mean more than one thing, she is shocked that heer can do something like this? and agree to marry there Enemy? The state she is in does she even realise what RR has done to their family? Or more likely Gyatri is sad/stunned by Heer's action because it tells her that even Heer has accepted that Prem is dead and she has to move on that leaves only Gyatri, i think Gyatri was too sad to realise that hence the reaction

well, i didn't think 'bout any of that... upto now, she has related to nothing that goes on around her! she has been deaf, dumb and blind ... and suddenly as heer is ordered by ratpal as "darling go unveil the portrait", gayatri-mom gets up crying??? if gayatri-mom had earlier behaved like a human being -- sure everything you wrote above is logical. she was a vegetable - and she reacts like a human being now? that was extreme. unnatural. weird... made me go 😲 and wonder if i should frown instead....

Yea i so wish Preet had turned back to see her tears but hey RR actually did heer and everyone a favor by letting her so called fiance do the ceremony, i mean she deserved to do it for her Prem more than lalu 😆 i still cant help but wonder where were cool dude and his assistants at the time of picture ceremony? Dozing off? 😕

well, hip-hop prem (my version of cool dude prem 😆) had taken off for his "next function".

And whats this talk about Prem leaving Ash in mandap? I mean didn't Ash a part of her mom's plan in decieving the juneja's? What else did she deserve? And she never wanted to marry Prem, Prem atleast was honest that he didn't love her even before the whole mandap scene!

yeah! 'cause i remember distinctly that ash had left prem at the mandap! 🤣 gosh, people can be soooo confused.... she is just even that much more evil in trying to find some bloomin' justification for her evil. how twisted can a person get??? i can't stand hypocritical evil buggers! 😡 *ar... she makes my blood boil!*

ummm although we can expect anything from Lalu but i doubt it by the way i am so glad he didn't have a heart attack and die after hearing about heer's engagement *Phew* otherwise we would have lost a good source of entertainment

😆 geez! yet another of you! 'tis like you juys have a little lalit juneja doll on your workdesk with a head on a spring that you keep poking at, and which bobs, up and down, and to and fro, to distract you from your worries for a while... ! 😆

Preet is great no doubt, i always liked him but Prem is still Ram and the hero!

no doubt. i agree prem's ram. but i guess my realisation is that ram's not the real hero of ramayan...lakshman never doubted sita... ram did.

Yea AG was brilliant although i think Heer really didn't need to say all those things abt gyatri, preet and lalu but as far as her delivery and performance was concerned it was great

i kinda think heer had to say it. i think if she didn't the rest of the j-zoo wouldn't have believed her. at the very least, i think she got that awful dirtchachi. and that's a big win! but y'know? i don't think preet believed a word of it... 😍

I don't feel sorry for Meher, i think Heer has always done more for her but meher never stood up for her, remember the mandap scene? She didn't even move to protect her, when prem died she was no where to support her, too busy thinking abt Harman 😡 Heer started working just for Meher and her study that one thing Heer did for herself was give herself up to be jailed because she loved Prem and even than Meher never tried to understand her! And even yesterday she didn't understand her! Doesn't she know Heer:? Doesn't she know money means nothing to her? Doesn't she not know that how muuch heer loved Prem and how she can never do anything like this to his family? Still she went on and on asking her why she did that

*sigh* i have this whole abused child angle on meher that soo makes me understand her almost pathalogical need to belong to a family. i agree with you though on her not being with heer when heer lost prem... that stood out as odd as hell and was unforgiveable on the part of the scriptwriters to ignore that relationship... ... but i did get her shock at heer's apparently abandoning her family to join up her family's enemy. that is something that abused children do a lot... there's a ton of research on this as the sociological basis of gangs and gang-war... but that's taking it into another dimension altogether. not for this post, methinks. 😆

btw, i thought that heer mentioning her wanting money for herself was a huge blooper on her part to convince her family of what she was doing!!! i mean, no-one with a miniscule brain couldbelieve that. i can't believe that she said that! but she did. and guess what? they all bought it!!! (except preet? gonna have faith on this one... 😆)

i think Gurav is not Gurav, either he is faking a memory loss and is delibrately trying to act like a cool dude or even if he actually has a memory loss he is not the cool dude he appears to be! He is just pretending to be a cool dude infront of his assistant but is actually quite sad and different when alone (Hint hint remember the sad, confused, lost Prem in Jaisalmir? that is when he was alone) and hence that explains what looks like over acting to us 😆 i mean he is not a cool dude, he just acts to be one to hide himself, to hide what he actually is going through! So harshad is not acting bad, he is just acting the chrachter! When we pretend to be someone we are not, we do act weird don't we? From hating him, i have actually started feeling for him

i get that. trying hard to be something you're not is stressful -- i guess everyone of us has been through this. and especially if you are someone who has no prior memory, it becomes every more desperate and sad. (tossed this around in the wtf quite a bit).

'tis just that - personally - i thought hc was doing a bad job of that very "act"! hc gets prem. he has not got hip-hop prem. it was ... less than perfect coming from hc. and 'cause it came from hc, i ... noticed. just mho. i'm betting that he'll grow into that too ... if he gets enough time in those shoes, of course. which i'm hoping he will not... 😆