LOVE... - Page 2

Originally posted by: yeh_ada_143

Prithvi's and Angad's love for Kripa is unique in their own way. you can't say one's love is greater than the other because love isn't measurable.

thats true too! love is not measureable & like ive said before, they're both unique! in one case, u have one that loves the other, but with the other, both love each other but are blinded by hatred!

Awww.. Thanks guys.. I agree with all your ideas... 😛

I don't think Prithvi's love is stronger because i don't think that Prithvi truly loves Kripa, if you refer back to his initial meetings with her i think he fell in love with an image of a sweet and innocent girl, has he ever really understood kripa, i mean he supported her singing career, as a career but he did not see that it was more to her, or that perhaps she should not be going after something for the sole reason of causing another pain. also love is about being more than a yes-man which is what prithvi has been, he has never really said no to kripa and in a real relationship you should be able to do that. also how could prithvi's love be stronger than angad's when he does not understand the one basic fact of kripa's life that will forever be a part of her, her love for angad and yes people do make mistakes but honestly when i think mistakes i'm thinking forgetting kripa's birthday or something not committing murder, murder is a crime and that is not something which can be overlooked or forgotten, that is an essential part of who prithvi is, a murderer, yes love is obsessive but a love that makes you forget basic differences between right and wrong cannot be a true love
also i think love is something that happens between two people, and in this case it is only prithvi who feels "love" for kripa, therefore it is not love, it is infatuation. kripa does not love prithvi, she respects him, she likes him, she wants to make him happy but she does not love him

for me prithvi's luv towards krips looks like care-taking-bro-sis, fatherly luv. There is no sexual feeling in this luv. Kripa never reciprocated to prithvi in this matter. It's always one-side. Love shd be b/w two ppl who cares each other.

So I cannot compare A-P luvs.

Originally posted by: soni595

Hello Jenny, very interesting post, one of my favorite subjects - LOVE 😛 I respect your thoughts, just a few disagreements, I hope you don't mind😛

If love could be measured, surely I would know. But love cannot be measured, because it runs far beyond the horizons and through the depths of the oceans.

"Love is a feeling that develops in it's own word, it's not a mere obsession but True Lovers are those who despite being apart are always togather".

Being together, means both individuals love each other, but here is not the case, whilst Prithvi loves Kripa, Kripa does not love him. They are indeed together, but are apart. Angad and Kripa are apart, with mistrust, misunderstandings etc in between, but they are still together in their hearts, because they think about each other every sun filled day and moon lit night.

"Love is .... someone who loves you uncontionally, only wants your happiness and someone who deeply cares about you"

Prithvi loved Kripa unconditionally, I feel sad when I remember how he turned this into a conditional love that required Kripa to marry him, so he killed Josh, and seperated Angad and Kripa. But, anyways his heart suffers as well, and I feel sorry for him.

Keep smiling.....
Take care!

Love , Soni

I totally agree with what Soni has to say. It's like she read my mind😊

i seriously believe that kripa should stay with prithvi.. as he will give her happiness that knows no boundaries.. as with angad.. we have seen REPEATEDLY.. that they cannot fully trust each other.. there is always something that comes up.. where as prithvi almost blindly trusts kripa.. which is VERY necessary in a relationship...

and plus.. havent u all heard that saying. that you should get married to the person that loves you .. not hte person that you love.. and i think that applies here. because prithvi, i think, will REALLY keep kripa happy.. and i seriously think that she is realizing that now..

i hope that she is not doing all of this to prithvi for revenge to angad.. if thats the case.. prithvi doest NOT deserve it!.. he deserves kripa's real LOVE..

and as for love.. sorry to go a bit off topic.. but remember the movie bewafa.. at the very end.. akshay kumar says that to love only one person all your life.. and never love anyoen else if that person goes away from you.. he said that that is an outdated thing.. and i think kripa needs to learn to actually love prithvi for who he is.. and hopefully if i'm seeing right.. she is starting to act like that..

and as for prithvi killing josh.. i dunno!.. haha.. i personally don't think killing is every justified.. so im a bit confused here..! i personally think doing that is against a character like prithvi.. its kind of liek the writers just stuck it in there.. so that angad would go to jail and we all know the rest..!

i seriously believe that kripa should stay with prithvi.. as he will give her happiness that knows no boundaries.. as with angad.. we have seen REPEATEDLY.. that they cannot fully trust each other.. there is always something that comes up.. where as prithvi almost blindly trusts kripa.. which is VERY necessary in a relationship...

but the thing with that is kripa doesnt love prithvi..at least not in the way that prithvi loves her. this love shov in kyph is so confusing!

Hey Jenny,
I knew that sumthinng like this wld def come up....I dunt think that Prithvi's luv is greater than Angad's luv.......At first Angad never believed in such an emotion but with time he got entangled in this same emotion.....but only with time did he learn to trust his luv completely to the point that he was devastated when she left him....for a mistake that he thought he had made and was unforgivable...he never hid that from Kripa and told her the truth....He never snatched Kripa from Prithvi even when she was engaged to that troll....but waited for her to come back to him....Even now when hatred masks their underlying luv in their relnship now...with time he will get her back widout having to climb mountains...she herself will come back to him the day everything becomes clear to her.....He doesnt need to kill anyone...for that...

As for Prithvi....I guess I've always said this in my posts earlier....he doesnt really luv Kripa...coz if he really did then he wld never have played games wid Angad and Kripa's lives..and decieved them soo....he had to create a false situation and tell dozens of lies and put up a pretense to snatch away Kripa from Angad knowing fully well that she wld never be his coz she belongs completely to Angad......He killed Josh so ruthlessly just to ensure that he got what he wanted...from this angle I think that he is very selfish and luvs himself more than anything else in the world....if he truly luved Krips then he wld have let her remain in Angad's arms forever..........
Murder is a very big thing Jenny...coz we dont have the right to snatch away sumone else's life that we havent created.....so in my eyes he has made the gravest of mistakes and will definitely have to pay for all this.......be it today,tom or years later......but he will have to pay for it..

This is my take on the luv of two men for one woman named Kripa.....(whos till in my eyes is an angel....struggling so hard bet saving a marriage and not allowing her luv for Angad to come bet her marriage....)..........But I also support Angad coz u cant let ur luv remain in a relnship that is not bringing any happiness to her.....so it is better to break it...and break it fast..........

These r just my thoughts....pls feel free to disagree...

Luv,Zenia... 😛 😛

Originally posted by: zenia680

Hey Jenny,
I knew that sumthinng like this wld def come up....I dunt think that Prithvi's luv is greater than Angad's luv.......At first Angad never believed in such an emotion but with time he got entangled in this same emotion.....but only with time did he learn to trust his luv completely to the point that he was devastated when she left him....for a mistake that he thought he had made and was unforgivable...he never hid that from Kripa and told her the truth....He never snatched Kripa from Prithvi even when she was engaged to that troll....but waited for her to come back to him....Even now when hatred masks their underlying luv in their relnship now...with time he will get her back widout having to climb mountains...she herself will come back to him the day everything becomes clear to her.....He doesnt need to kill anyone...for that...

As for Prithvi....I guess I've always said this in my posts earlier....he doesnt really luv Kripa...coz if he really did then he wld never have played games wid Angad and Kripa's lives..and decieved them soo....he had to create a false situation and tell dozens of lies and put up a pretense to snatch away Kripa from Angad knowing fully well that she wld never be his coz she belongs completely to Angad......He killed Josh so ruthlessly just to ensure that he got what he wanted...from this angle I think that he is very selfish and luvs himself more than anything else in the world....if he truly luved Krips then he wld have let her remain in Angad's arms forever..........
Murder is a very big thing Jenny...coz we dont have the right to snatch away sumone else's life that we havent created.....so in my eyes he has made the gravest of mistakes and will definitely have to pay for all this.......be it today,tom or years later......but he will have to pay for it..

This is my take on the luv of two men for one woman named Kripa.....(whos till in my eyes is an angel....struggling so hard bet saving a marriage and not allowing her luv for Angad to come bet her marriage....)..........But I also support Angad coz u cant let ur luv remain in a relnship that is not bringing any happiness to her.....so it is better to break it...and break it fast..........

These r just my thoughts....pls feel free to disagree...

Luv,Zenia... 😛 😛

i completly agree with you zenia. how can anyone say that angad never trusted her. do u guys remember their first little fight, it was so cute and how she said all those harsh things to him but he came back to her. and he does trust her its just tht those stupid misunderstanding of his family and pritvi's evil plan made them get apart. the thing that happened with simone, he did wanted to tell kripa. he didn't wanted to hide it from her. it was her who did not wanted to hear it. even whn she heard it from simone she went to ask him, he didn't lie....he could have lied to her so she won't hate him, but he chose to the tell the turth. i strongly believe that angad loves her beyond limits. when kripa was getting engaged with prithvi the first time, he could have done something to get her but he didnt. he waited for her to come to her. even the second time when she was engaged to prithvi, he didnt make her break her engagement with. she came to him all by himself. he kept saying that she is happy with prithvi, that is why i won't do anything to make her mine. now why can't prithvi think the same. why doesn't he want kripa's happiness which lies with angad.

"Love is .... someone who loves you uncontionally, only wants your happiness and someone who deeply cares about you"

if prithvi truly loved her and wanted only the happiness of her than why did he made all those plan to snatch her from A. prithvi knows that she loves angad from every piece of her heart thn why did he wanted to kill angad many times.

Hey Jenny,

I love such lovely questions when we raise in our minds about love...there was a similar question as yours in dadhich's post...and so I will post my views as that one...here it goes:

What's important is

not just to live, but to share life;
not just to give, but to give one's self;

not just to love, but to live love;
not just to question, but to try to understand;
not just to accept, but to embody;

Angad – He learnt to live coz of his love and desired to share it, but distrust and misunderstanding walked in and he got swayed away. Now leave alone sharing life…he is onto destroying it. He has given himself to her for he thinks of nothing but her at all hours, whether tearing in love or raging with vengeance—love is visible! Not just to question, but to try to understand; not just to accept, but to embody;--this is where the problem currently lies in his frame of mind, for he question, but ddoesn't seek an honest reply from within. He has not accepted that maybe it's just not Kripa's fault alone, but that along the way he contributed to his own misery as well.

Prithvi - not just to live, but to share life; - he has learned to share life but has he given or taken? Let's focus how he actually got Kripa, through none other than deceit, framing, and lies by distancing her from real love of her life. He might have given himself completely to her, but has he given her the real truth of himself??? He breathes love no doubt, but isn't his love selfish for she is weeping and he doesn't reveal he is responsible for each tear-drop. His love is evident as well…people might say that one act of his should not refrain him from love, but even if we forgave what he did…is he realizing what he has done in all honesty? Not just to question, but to try to understand;
not just to accept, but to embody; -- same problem with him. Not willing to accept that Angad is settled in every breath of Kripa's and there is no room for that kind of love for anyone, not even her "husband."

What's important is

not so much to be present, as not to make one's self absent;
not so much to console, as to empathize;
not so much to win, as to go on fighting

Angad – Even though Kripa thought Angad wasn't part of her, she was self-deceived, for in his absence memories of his controlled her heart. Indeed this is where Prithvi could never make a space for himself, for Angad never emptied that home of her heart, so how could she allow Prithvi to settle? Whether be Angad's presence or absence…she couldn't let him leave for her conscience knew better!

Prithvi – however, he not only consoled Kripa, but empathizes with her at every point. Any time any one (Damini or Mishti) raises fingers at Kripa, he has always stood by her to give her support. Angad first consoled her, but how could he later coz he himself needed some dosage of it.

Both however have fought over her…Angad's fighting has taken the name of revenge and Prithvi's fighting in name of marriage. Neither have won, but they wish for Kripa's love (in case of Prithvi…it's more obvious, but we can't be oblivion as to why Angad repeatedly strikes at her dispositions).

What's important is

not to possess, but to set free;
not to compete, but to accompany;
not to criticize, but to give orientation;
not to be visible, but to be available;
not to arrive, but to continue on;
not to give solutions, but options;
not to long for the past, but to be able to rejoice in what has been
(transforming it into an eternal present,
where time and space melt into and sublimate one another).

all in all, not how much, but how deep.

to learn to love beyond what the heart imagines possible.

Angad – has had issues with: not to compete, but to accompany; not to be visible, but to be available; not to arrive, but to continue on; not to long for the past, but to be able to rejoice in what has been; -- As of now, he is literally competing with Kripa for he wishes to ruin her coz she ruined him by not placing trust earlier. He has moments where he feels and asks himself, yet doesn't provide the company they both truly desire. He is participating in widening the growing distance between them by fuming further hurting actions. He is visible, but is he there for her when she needs him? He keeps recalling the memories, but at her sight turns uncontrollable. The sad part is he tells her how much he "loved" her and if only she trusted him (as a solution), but is never willing to go beyond that thought of his. Kripa being unworthy of his love…you breathe love, but deny the essence of it within yourself. He lives in past, fights in present to conquer, and wants to live in defeated future (for how can he not be defeated if he destroys his soulmate).

Prithvi – this is where he gets a little higher footage, for he might have employed wrong ways to get his love, but he still accompanies her all the time and understands that he needs time. His shoulder has always been there for Kripa to rest when she feels lost, defeated, shattered…and Angad's bitterness has created more respect for Prithvi (not love) in Kripa's eyes. But, but, but… not to possess, but to set free – Prithvi claims to let Kripa be free, but he always internally wanted her! He could never possess her was his gravest fear, for he knew that he could not only not take Angad'd position, but never make a space for himself in that same way. If he had set Kripa free…none of this would have happened!

Angad – has shown powerful affects in these things - all in all, not how much, but how deep; to learn to love beyond what the heart imagines possible. – His love is deeper than the depths of ocean, greater than heights of skies, brighter than sun, more radiant than lightning bolt…u name it and we see it in his spirit for the way his heart wrenches for her is beyond imagination! His heart loves her so much and even he can't imagine it…we see how evident that was especially in the very last episode we saw!

Prithvi – loves her deeply, but is unaware of depths of love! He might love her more than anything, but does he love her more than himself? We might say yes to this...but think over again…why has he never told her what really happened? What is he afraid of?

Agreed that Prithvi's way was not correct and his love will never be sanctified for he has used blood-filled hands to bring Kripa to his base. But, to say he is not giving is also not totally correct…he has given his life towards her! I am supporting what I sense from his deep want for her, but please don't get me wrong. I am always A-K supporter, for soulmates are meant to be together!

But, in some ways I think Angad is committing as heinous act as Prithvi once did. Prithvi physically killed Josh for he couldn't stand his presence of re-uniting A-K, but what is Angad doing now…he is killing Mishti's love. Prithvi killed Josh physically, and Angad will be killing someone internally...he will kill her love soon and stab her feelings…crush her soul and tear it apart just coz he wanted to take revenge from Kripa. Isn't he creating another Angad or Kripa in Mishti? Is internal killing not as evident as physical death??? Can we approve that? A person who dies from outside is saved from pain, but a person who is dead while living…now isn't that fatal or worse than death???

So love…love…love!!! Angad or Prithvi?? Well what do you think now? Angad's love is beyond our thinking, and Prithvi' is within Kripa's boundary. Angad's is vengeful, and Prithvi's is supportive, Angad's is at depths and Prithvi's is at heights, Angad's is unable to locate and Prithvi's is searching, Angad's love is culpable now and Prithvi's love was blameworthy earlier…..

Now that we see both their love have different forces…it comes down to who they love…none other than Kripa sweetie! Since her heart chooses Angad…love is mutual...Angad's love has a higher standpoint! I rather see two people happy than three lives destroyed!!! What do you think?

-Love4ever!