TOTW: Hindi vs english

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Welcome to the topic of the week where we can discuss a popular topic on the forum at the moment.
Some rules:
1.No bashing actors if you have to make a point make it without bashing.
2.No chatting off topic
3.No arguements if you disagree with something you can say it without turning it into a fight.
TOPIC OF THE WEEK THIS WEEK:
What do you think of the use of the english language within bollywood movies/interviews?
Do you think it is justified or do you think that it is being over used?
Why do you think that actors tend to use alot of english even when being interviewed yet hindi if their first language.
What would you prefer be used within movies?
Do you think that english being used makes any difference to the understanding of the movies.
Feel free to add anything you guys want 😳
Some thoughts from a article:

At times this abbreviated form gets compressed further. Thus Kuch Kuch Hota Hai turns into K2H2 and Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham becomes K3G. No doubt such titles sound hip, look smart on billboards and are easy to recall. But this is almost like renaming a film, simply because the original title in Hindi creates the impression of being too desi and downmarket. Nowhere in the world are filmmakers as desperate to appear anglicized while misleading the cinegoer with distorted film titles. At this rate, they could even turn Kaagaz Ke Phool into K2P!

This is however, understandable. It leads our filmmakers into believing they are getting one step closer to 'Big Brother' Hollywood. But how would anybody explain the rampant use of English slang, bridge words, phrases and even entire sentences as a manner of speech when suitable alternatives can easily be found in Hindi? A recent case in point is Kareena Kapoor famously telling Shahid Kapoor in Jab We Met: 'Main apni favourite hoon ~ chulbuli, delightful and full of life Punjaban kudi!'

It does not stop here. Katrina Kaif, a British girl, who cannot speak Hindi to save her life, is today, Bollywood's top-earning actress. Salman Khan knows his Hindi well, but deliberately speaks with an upper-class English accent. Himesh Reshammiya insists on pronouncing 'Hari Om' as 'Hurry Om' in Karzzzz. Shah Rukh Khan, Akshay Kumar, John Abraham and every other actor worth his salt are going about saying, 'Hey dude', 'Chill man' and 'That's rocking' in order to establish how hep and anglicised they are. Even in an unglamorous film like Gangajal, we hear crude, rustic characters, mouthing lines like, 'Aapka game over ho jayega aaj' and 'Aapka mind toh kharab nahi ho gaya?'

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I've visited India only twice in my life, so whenever I hear my cousins speak english, I really cannot get over how sore that accent sounds when they're tyring too hard..

Okay, Im def. not trying to hate here, and please forgive me if I've hurt your feelings:
I don't mind the actors speaking hinglish or whatever for that matter, but whats worse is them TRYING to put on an english accent and it really makes them look like a ridiculous FOB ...really? I think its more appropriate to speak how you really speak rather than forcing it because you're mearly making a fool of yourself... I know this goes both ways, and I get made fun of for my lack of knowledge in hindi as well, but I think the worse thing you can do is try to be something you're not...
ever notice in movies, how they say one line in english and repeat the same exact thing back in hindi!! 🤔.. if you're gonna do that, then don't speak both! I guess they show english to reach out to a fuller audience and all and to show they're highly educated, but it sounds downright cabbie wala if you put on an accent and try to walk ghetto saying 'yo' every two seconds..
Movies they do that for the movie sake, but what gets to me is when sullu dear speaks that certain way... I miss how he was back in the day... and when giving interviews...um, hello, you're giving it to a largely hindi speaking audience so why forcefully speak english? just to show off that you know 1-2 words and how badly you annunciate them??
okay, theres my bit, im gonna stop before I cross the line
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I'll just answer one question. Katrina first didn't even know hindi but she learned hindi through time. I think it's great actors speak in english because there are people who can't understand hindi and they want to watch the hindi movies/interviews. Hindi actors are worldwide superstars and bollywood is known by the whole world these days. I think it's a good bussiness by crossing worldwide, more money.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Well i love Hindi Moives its nnot that we don't understand why they saying in english its not that but i love hindi MOIVES
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Posted: 17 years ago
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see i dont thing its wrong english is a language which is spoken globally..means ppl can interact through this from vaarious ppl...so english is like something very important and u can't leave it....but that also doesnt mean u never speak in hindi if u dont wish to... but i don't think meaning speaking english is showoff or whateva
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Posted: 17 years ago
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English is a global language one of the most vital laguages people should know so i think there's nothing wrong with using it in Bollywood because bollywood is worldwide so its fine. Also bollywood movies r movies made by the "indian film industry" so it doesn't mean they have to be in hindi as many films r spoken in just punjabi or stuff but ppl still watch them! there's nothing wrong with it. Though like Jhanvi, i agree its when they start putting accents on and trying to make it sound as if all natural and all-but they make a fool of themselves and why be embarrassed nothing wrong with speaking english with an indian accent or whtever.i live in uk so i speak english naturally in a slight british accent so my hindi/punjabi comes out with a bit of an english accent underneath and i never try to hide it so why do bollywood celebs?! it doesn't make them look highly educated being ableto speak english in a completly phoney american accent and there are a good few actors who do this!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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hmm ok
well english is something which is international but hindi movies rock
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I don't think Hindi movies are using much English except in few cases.
Interview in English seems to me more a marketing acts of them, so that people remain curious abt them, and go to see their movie
I prefer to use in movie Hindi.
I don't like one of the latest trends in which movie plotted on the Indian society but movie is entirely in English.

I feel if ur among Indians u sud speak in the ur own accent. And if ur among others u cud use their accent just to make them feel comfortable but only in the case if few ppl of that accent approves that u have the good catch on their accent. And if u have nobody who can approve u, then its good to speak at ur accent. Not only it will feels good, also its about self-respect. i specially hate one VJ girl Anusha of MTV who tried to speak English in other accent, first thing is she is referring to Indian audience so sud not use it. Second she is not having even half of catch on that accent. It really ridiculous

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Great topic.
I don't think its being overused. Hindi is india's first language HOWEVER, there is a variety of languages that are still not presented which belong to India. Even if the case is like for example in Punjab, i hardly see any movies where the scenario is completly punjabi where you would speak COMPLETE punjabi but instead we hear hindi 😕 like hello. thats not realistic. the only example that I can give that did not do that was prietys role in Heroes.
So, I don't think the case here really is just hindi vs. english, its more how can we make this situation or scene more realistic. there is nothing bad about speaking english ifthat scene/character/setting requires it. english is a international. langauage so no one is acting like they want to be anything by speaking english. As well these movies arent only seen by indian people so some added english is helping the movie.
and that part about "yo" & "hey dude", arent most teens even in India and everywehre in the world using that. Its influence by media oviously. So its not just bollywood movies. Hindi is impt to be heard in these movies and it is in most cases if not every hindi movie unless required otherwise.
Edited by mz.jess - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigrl05

I've visited India only twice in my life, so whenever I hear my cousins speak english, I really cannot get over how sore that accent sounds when they're tyring too hard..I have been lots of times and get what you saying to be honest not alot of people i know do maybe beacuse its mostly older people there my two closest cousins are the only young ones and have not heard them speak english apart from name calling 😆

Okay, Im def. not trying to hate here, and please forgive me if I've hurt your feelings:
I don't mind the actors speaking hinglish or whatever for that matter, but whats worse is them TRYING to put on an english accent and it really makes them look like a ridiculous FOB ...really? I think its more appropriate to speak how you really speak rather than forcing it because you're mearly making a fool of yourself... I know this goes both ways, and I get made fun of for my lack of knowledge in hindi as well, but I think the worse thing you can do is try to be something you're not...I do understand its like speak hindi if you feel more comfortable no need to speak and try to act all cool and do a fake accent.
ever notice in movies, how they say one line in english and repeat the same exact thing back in hindi!! 🤔.. if you're gonna do that, then don't speak both! I guess they show english to reach out to a fuller audience and all and to show they're highly educated, but it sounds downright cabbie wala if you put on an accent and try to walk ghetto saying 'yo' every two seconds.. They do but why not do one or the other no need for both..
Movies they do that for the movie sake, but what gets to me is when sullu dear speaks that certain way... I miss how he was back in the day... and when giving interviews...um, hello, you're giving it to a largely hindi speaking audience so why forcefully speak english? just to show off that you know 1-2 words and how badly you annunciate them?? I think he does it on purpose to wind up katrina lol 😛
okay, theres my bit, im gonna stop before I cross the line

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