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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazyfan

how can u say tanya is betteR? seriosuly

you say tanya is right in being angry and being rude to trish. okay lemme tell you this;
No one has said Tanya is a better sister. Where did you get that? But most people don't like Trish as a sister. Tanya was not Rude to Trish. The only and only way it can be considered Rude is if Trish gets offended. And that's only possible if she was wrong.
- tanya got mad just coz she saw raj-trish today (who were ex-lovers and it was because of trish's love tht raj married "her sister") you say tht it is okay for her to do that BUT trishna doesnt have a right to be mad and angry when her sister and her boyfriend show up at her doorstep "married"?????what??
So when you find your husband with another married woman middle of the night all alone or in the garden while he is touching her face it's no reason to get mad? And ofcourse trishna had a right to be mad. HELLO!!! no one said she didn't. It's how she took out her anger till she found out Tanya had a reason. Even if you sister did the most crappy thing on earth and you could never forgive her I would expect you to even give a her a sad look once in a while. trishna was a witch!
- tanya could have spoken the truth to trishna anytime she wanted. i refuse to believe tht she dint get a chance, like gp00 said, she could have locked the door slapped smacked done something to her to make her stay and say the truth to her. you wanted trishna to come up to tanya after she sees her married with her boyfriend and ask her "hey why did u marry my boyfriend, did u get raped by any chance"? i mean i dont mean to sound rude but is that what a good sister means in your eyes??
Tanya is weak! She is so meek. She wanted to tell trish. She even came to her and said I have to tell you the truth. Now really??? Does it really sound like Tanya's personality where she is the type to yell at her sister?? Seriously?? I have never heard a more absurd thing in this forum. She could've locked her in a room and slapped trishna?? Were you not looking at the same tirshna and Tanya I was looking at. Tanya was broken from every angle possible. Trishna was breathing fire at ever chance she got.
- you say tanya is a better sister i say baloni!! trish found out yuv-tanya were married, she got mad at BOTH OF THEM and rightfully so. tanya saw yuv-trish together, n she just got mad at trish and went to serve food to HER HUSBAND, is that what a good sister does??
She saw her husband with her sister. at night!!! She saved her butt from her husband. Then she nicely said I don't need explainations from you di because you are older. So whatever you do I am sure you will do it after much thought. It might sound sarcastic but she did it with a reminder that I trust you don't break it. It wasn;t an insult she said it simply and genuinely. Then she left for her husband! OH GOD!!! what a terrible sister. She should've started breathing fire the second she caught her husband with Trish at night. And shouldn't have lied to Rajdeep and save Trish. Let Trish get screwed by Rajdeep. Who cares. She shouldn't have been out with her husband's best friend on the 1st place!
Lets look at Trish now. How could you do this Raj
Tan:: Di it's not
Trish: I didn't ask you...
Raj goes on insulting her.
That's it all relationship the sister ever had were broken!
Tanya tried, literally went up to her and said let me explain. She begged her for forgiveness trish said never and broke all ties. Now that's what I call a NICE WONDERFUL AMAZING CARING LOVING OLDER sister.
trishna is so much of a better sister than tanya!
Strictly your opinion. And ofcourse you are entitled to it.😳 I would not want a sister like Trish. Who is by my side when everything I do is on her favor, but the second I hurt her she is gone. As a older sister I expect someone to be motherly and caring. Trish doesn't fit the requirement. I want her to see my pain. Tanya saw that pain in her sister. Trish never did. I want a sister who cares for me no matter what happens. She has every right to be mad at me, and yell at me. But I want to know even something terrible terrible happens she won't leave my side.

Edited by Perfangel5655 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I agree with fatima 100%.........
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Posted: 16 years ago
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lol i cry too! im a very emotional girl (:
( but sometimes it bugs me that im so sensitive)
&& iagree with everything you said to crazyfan
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The whole point here which I guess you are not understanding is that Trishna had a BIG reason to be mad at her sister.

If it were an outsider, it wouldn't have been such big of a deal, but Tanya was her own sister. One of THE MOST IMPORTANT people in Trishna's life. And if you see it through her point of view, she felt betrayed, cheated by HER OWN BLOOD SISTER and the love of her life. I mean how do expect her to behave. All the time we see the mahatma bahus and betis acting all goody goody and we are like, there are no such people in real life. Trishna is how people really are, I would feel completely betrayed and shattered if I see what Trishna saw as in her sister and her bf married. Yeah she was rude to Tanya, she misbehaved, didn't want to hear anything, but thats how siblings are. Whenever me and my siblings fight and the other one comes to make up, its not like I stand in front of them patiently and hear them out. This is how it is,if you want to make up with your siblings, you don't go to them and 'try' to say the truth; you just say it, you put in effort.
And when I said that Tanya should have locked Trishna up and said the truth, I didn't mean, literally hit her or anything, all I meant was that she could've found A WAY by which to tell trishna the truth by hook or crook.
And when you say Trishna was a "witch" since she didn't even give tanya a sad look or anything, umm it was not like tanya took her toy doll or something; she married her love! that's not a very small thing. she felt cheated and probably even angry at herself for having a sister who betrayed her. its not like it had been a long time since the marriage happened, everything happened quickly and her wounds were still fresh.
Also, I am not saying that Tanya should've breathed fire on Raj, all I am saying is she saw BOTH raj and trishna together, she gave a cold shoulder to trish but didn't even seem upset at him or anything; why just single out trishna?
You say trish wasn't with tanya in her bad time and was and is just by her in good times only; again! trish didn't have a clue of what tanya went through. Its not like tanya broke her laptop or lost her gold ring that trishna would be upset for a few days and then forget it; tanya married Trishna's love, i dont even know if you understand the magnititude of that situation!
And all the explanation that Tanya supporters give to defend her is that she is weak, yeah she is weak, very weak, weak beyond acceptance, but that can't be the explanation for everything. She was weak enough to let Kanhaiya bother her, she was weak not to tell anyone about it, she was weak to get petrified by Kanhyaiya, she was weak so couldn't stand up to her mom and say I am the victim here its not my fault, she was weak to want to go and marry kanhaiya, she was weak to let raj marry her; this is what I don't like about this character.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The whole point here which I guess you are not understanding is that Trishna had a BIG reason to be mad at her sister. If it were an outsider, it wouldn't have been such big of a deal, but Tanya was her own sister. One of THE MOST IMPORTANT people in Trishna's life. And if you see it through her point of view, she felt betrayed, cheated by HER OWN BLOOD SISTER and the love of her life. I mean how do expect her to behave.
Your right she did have a reason to be mad at her sister. AT FIRST! It's fine, that she feels angry and betrayed. I agree that's how she should feel! She can behave mad, BUT she should have gaven her BLOOD SISTER a chance. She asked RAJ, blocked her sister off completly from the beg. Even with all the anger couldnt she have one bit of curiousty or nicessness in her to ask her sister why? Why did you do this? She didnt ever let Tanya explain. Even If I were in Trish's spot I would have done things differently.
I would feel completely betrayed and shattered if I see what Trishna saw as in her sister and her bf married. Yeah she was rude to Tanya, she misbehaved, didn't want to hear anything, but thats how siblings are. Whenever me and my siblings fight and the other one comes to make up, its not like I stand in front of them patiently and hear them out. This is how it is,if you want to make up with your siblings, you don't go to them and 'try' to say the truth; you just say it, you put in effort.
Like I said before, I would have acted differently. Here's how. If I found out my sister married my kunal, I would be hurt, betrayed, confused, in pain, angry, jealous, all the stuff etc. But even with all these feelings overwhelming me, I would be curious, I would want to know why my sister did such a thing to me? I wouldn't jump to conclusions (ok at first, but I wouldnt believe what I think b/c sometimes I tend to be irrational) So I would give my sister one chance to fess up what happened, patiently or not I would demand it, if she cant confes then I'll let my imagination go wild. And from there I would judge where to go from there! I wouldnt break of all ties. My and my sister fight and argue all the time, its how we are, but exculding those moments I love my sister dearly, I would hurt me to lose her!

And when I said that Tanya should have locked Trishna up and said the truth, I didn't mean, literally hit her or anything, all I meant was that she could've found A WAY by which to tell trishna the truth by hook or crook.
And when you say Trishna was a "witch" since she didn't even give tanya a sad look or anything, umm it was not like tanya took her toy doll or something; she married her love! that's not a very small thing. she felt cheated and probably even angry at herself for having a sister who betrayed her. its not like it had been a long time since the marriage happened, everything happened quickly and her wounds were still fresh.
Also, I am not saying that Tanya should've breathed fire on Raj, all I am saying is she saw BOTH raj and trishna together, she gave a cold shoulder to trish but didn't even seem upset at him or anything; why just single out trishna?
Tanya tried everything she could to tell her di. If there was another way she would have jumped to the oppurtunity to do it. She didn't have any other way but to force Trish but being violent (by that I mean yell or scream or hold her down to something) and that's not Tanya's nature, do be like that. I don't think Trish is a witch, she was just very cold and uncaring to her "life long blood sister" hhmp! && your right what Tanya did wasn't small but big, but you say it like its something she CHOSE to do or WANTED to do! Bechari was going to marry Kaniayah for god's sake! Raj stepped in to be her hero, she didn't ask him to rescue her, so please don't blame this on my jaani. && also, she wasn't singling out on Trish, she confronted her friendly by saying I trust you both please don't break it. She also got mad at Raj if you remember, she reminded her to leave Trish-deep alone, let them figuire things out themselves.

You say trish wasn't with tanya in her bad time and was and is just by her in good times only; again! trish didn't have a clue of what tanya went through. Its not like tanya broke her laptop or lost her gold ring that trishna would be upset for a few days and then forget it; tanya married Trishna's love, i dont even know if you understand the magnititude of that situation!
That's the problem! The magnititude was made bigger, Trish made it huge! Okay so she had every right to be mad as a lover etc. But she ALSO had the right to ASK her sister. It's her fault she didn't want to listen to her explaination, if she had just done that, then she would have realized her sister didn't betray her, and neither did her pyaara! She would sitll have a diffucult time grasping this, but at least she would have known the reason behind everything, she would've backed off the attitude! Be angry, but don't yell at my tanya for no reason, she didn't do it to you on purpose! She's not like that! She doesnt even think of him like that so why make into a such a BIG DEAL!

And all the explanation that Tanya supporters give to defend her is that she is weak, yeah she is weak, very weak, weak beyond acceptance, but that can't be the explanation for everything. She was weak enough to let Kanhaiya bother her, she was weak not to tell anyone about it, she was weak to get petrified by Kanhyaiya, she was weak so couldn't stand up to her mom and say I am the victim here its not my fault, she was weak to want to go and marry kanhaiya, she was weak to let raj marry her; this is what I don't like about this character.
It's not Tanya's fault the CREATIVES wrote her character like this! 😡 She weak, its true but she's NOT retarted!! She was being raped for crisis sake! I'm sure if some guy was raping you, chances are you won't have enough strenght to fight back, you'll struggle and try. Your saying this as if Kahnaiyah was raping her and she just sat back and let him, she screamed and I know she tried to fight him off as much as possible, but he's stronger, have some pity for the girl! She was NOT weak to not tell anyone. People stopped her from telling. She's been WANTING to tell but they (kul and raj) kept saying the rest of the family doesn't need to know, etc! She didn't want people angry at raj, she's tried ok, it was not weakness, she was just told not to speak a word about it! I would be be scared of Kaniayah too, he's creepy,he's RAPED her, stalked her, treatned, etc. I would be crying like her too if some creep kept stalking me like that! You must not be afraid of things and people if you feel she was weak b/c he scared and creeped her out. 96% of rape cases, the victim blames themselfs for such trauma. It's (hate to say it but) it's natural to blame one self, it doesn't make you weak. I say I wouldnt blame myself but the guy who did it to me, but I truely wouldnt know till it happened to me (knock on wood 😕). She blamed Kaniahyah for the rape, but herself for coming in between raj and trish, that's the difference people aren't understanding. And what was she going to tell her mom? She's said everything she could have! What would you say to your mom if you were in her position? I didn't like that she would think of marrying Kahnaiyah, but she felt as if she's not pure anymore and no one would want her, and kahniayah does, she felt as if she had no options besides him and death. Kul wouldnt let her die so it was the marrige, besides who would take of her? Who would want her if they found out if she had her virginity taken form her? Here its not big deal but to indian families its a big deal! && raj marrying her: she tried to take off the sindoor, she said "you can be only trish di's and you to her" i can't take you to apart, she tried to stop him, but he didnt let her.
So all in all, I'm all for Tanya, as you may already know by now. I can't stand unreasonable blames on her! She didn't do all the things that have happened on purpose, it's a bunch of series of unfortunate events. this is all in the past so please stop blaming her and let it go, move on! worry about trish's vivaah relationship if you truely care for her. If trish can let all this go why cant we? In conclusion to my 7000 page arguement on this topic, tanya has tried her best to fix situations out but in the end other events or people came in the equation an altered everything, she is not to blame for anything!
Have a super duper evening (morning, night, afternoon -- depending on where you live)
Love,
Dhruvi 😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Different strokes for different folks
I think we are at an impasse where we've said anything and everything to support our take on the track, and more specifically, Tanya and Trishna. Or should I say, Tanya vs. Trishna? (I will not add more on this topic after this, because I think all has been discussed)

We look at things differently, value different things, empathize with certain types of people, read different things into people's actions. One person's betrayal is another person's new chance at life.

For me and what appears to be a number of people I can count on one hand, it's that Tanya marrying Yuv is inexcusable. Rape, no rape. Kul's influence or none. Raj's plans or not. You just don't solve certain problems by hurting others, no matter how much you are hurting on the inside or how much honor is involved. It was her failure and weakness when she did not stop the wedding or when she did not tell Trishna. It was her failure when she did not stop Kul or Yuv. She ABSOLUTELY could have stopped it but was too "weak" to not stop. Again, rape or no rape. If she tried often and hard, she could have done both and not BETRAYED her sister. I daresay she has been a bad sister, because she STOLE her sister's happiness with her silence or ineffectiveness.

For you, I suspect Tanya has been through too much. She's quiet, nice, selfless vs. Trishna because of the way she's handled things. She's very caring and was sick over MARRYING her sister's love, probably while marrying him, wondering how Trish was doing, the pain? No shi*, Sherlock...Tanya cares because she knows she is RESPONSIBLE for it. Now she's doing everything right, for the right reasons, she really can do no wrong. Why? Cause she's sooooo (oh, let's go through it again) nice and selfless and it's a different situation, and is only setting limits, not being mean.

We like to call a spade a spade. Sometimes circumstances don't change the righteousness of the action.

For me and perhaps some of the 5 others, familial betrayal is HUGE. Familial unhappiness is huge. Doing right, irrespective of situation is huge. And yes, despite differences, taking a 30,000 foot look, tells us that Tanya is feeling this now--that trust has been broken just like she BROKE her's sister's (as did Yuv, mr. smarty pants).

In your words in this post, Trishna is less "mature" in her response..why? Tanya a better sister? Why? YOU YOURSELF ARE MAKING THIS STATEMENT. YET 1ST SENTENCE of post, YOU MENTION NOONE IS SAYING TANYA IS BETTER. So I'm confused, which happens everytime I write on this show!!!!

I think I will keep an open mind, but knowing how I view things, which by the way can be considered right or wrong, I know that I am no fan of Tanya. I will never be, unless she does the honorable thing and give up Yuv. You are going to kill me on that point!!! I often like to look at things above board, then analyze down. I can't take each word, situation, scene and say someone is justified or not.

And please let's give the dollhouse a break. Yes, it is absolutely symbolic of trust and yes, Tanya DID NOT BREAK IT! Why should she? She WAS NOT THE ONE WHO WAS BETRAYED BY HER SISTER??? Trish broke that dollhouse because the trust and love that builds a home and bond for sisters was destroyed in her eyes. No matter what Manshaa or Sujata did, Tanya's betrayal put cracks in that house.

If it had been me, and I was angry enough, I would have hurled that dollhouse in Tanya's direction. Compared to me, Trishna seems quite reasonable and patient and kind and mature. It's all about the reference point.


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Posted: 16 years ago
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okay indianchakli i dint read your response to the last part coz its too long and just reading your first two sentences made me role my eyes.
honey, i am not saying that she should have fought with kanhaiya WHILE he was raping her, no!!!! i m saying tht while he was being a retard and stalking and scaring her, thennnnn she should have told someone about this!!!! her being raped was NOT HER FAULT but she could have told other people and possibly avoided the incident. also, your are blaming the creatives for her character which really doesnt relate to what we r tlking about here.......
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazyfan

okay indianchakli i dint read your response to the last part coz its too long and just reading your first two sentences made me role my eyes.

honey, i am not saying that she should have fought with kanhaiya WHILE he was raping her, no!!!! i m saying tht while he was being a retard and stalking and scaring her, thennnnn she should have told someone about this!!!! her being raped was NOT HER FAULT but she could have told other people and possibly avoided the incident. also, your are blaming the creatives for her character which really doesnt relate to what we r tlking about here.......

o0o0o0o0o i thought you were talking about the rape part. in that case i agree with you. it ticked me off that she didnt let someone know about him regradless of his treatning. it could have prevented the rape but oh well! i like the tanya-raj jodi and the rape made it possible (as sick as it sounds) and nevermind the character thing idk i was venting?! 😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: indianchaklii

o0o0o0o0o i thought you were talking about the rape part. in that case i agree with you. it ticked me off that she didnt let someone know about him regradless of his treatning. it could have prevented the rape but oh well! i like the tanya-raj jodi and the rape made it possible (as sick as it sounds) and nevermind the character thing idk i was venting?! 😕

I think it was some what justified. She didn't speak up because he kept threatening her family. Remember the nightmares where she saw Kanaiyah killing her dad? then she goes to his room at night to make sure he is safe. Then she prays to god. We can assume it would've helped and it would've if they went to the cops. But What happened when Kanaiyah did go to jail?? he got out in 2 days and bugged her again. And it wasn't like no one knew. Raj knew! Did that help much? Not really!

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