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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunsha

Right...HR has got that kinda confidence in Vinit that he has already made him sing for Rocky and promised much more to him.

Just saw the RDX episode yesterday(Sunday) and saw the drama of the clipping of soundtrack for Vinit.

Even though AS was most critical about this, he eventually gave full 10 to Vinit..Why?..coz he knows and commented that he(AS) cannot put down the talent of the most promising contestant for the fault of somebody else to tamper with the soundtrack.

It may also be noted that, Vinit is the one who can play many instruments like Piano,Guitar,Harmonium etc.....is this boy not the future singer of India??....He sure is as was commented by all the Mentors.



absolutely correct... he deserves all the support he is getting from HR... was amazing yet again in this week's "patta patta buta buta..." just perfect...


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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: kangaroo

Please correct the title of your posting. There is nothing motherly about HR's attitude, step or otherwise. You should change it to why is HR treating everyone other than Vineet as *********?

The fact remains that HR treating other participants of his gharana in a stepmotherly way. I will give some example. As long paresh was in ID 's gharana he was singing very good as paresh was guided sincerely by ID and the judge [sameer and wadkar] were in dilemma whom to be given green card which was between paresh and abhijeet. In uncensored programme I watched both were equally good but paresh sang a fast song and abhijeet sang slow song and the later was having little sur and feeling. so abhijet was declared winner. But after coming to HR's gharana I think paresh is not been given much attention on his selection of songs and also not given any proper guidance to sing the song as ID used to teach him. [though Ismailji is little harsh but he was sincere in training them] look at adheshji though public may not favour rajeev, he boosted the moral of him and gave a good break in his film along with himani and subsequently for hema also he has promised to give him. but HR is concentrating only on vinit but not on anybody,that is very unfair. when sharib was eliminated every body expressed their views on sharib except HR. ID could not control his emotion though he is from ohter gharana. Paresh is having good potential provided if anybody prepared to polish him definetely he will shine. HR shd come forward to take some initiative and proove that a boy who comes from abroad can also be made to sing in his composition. and it can become a hit.

Edited by sujalfan - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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thnx abhilasha fo the reply.. 😃
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree with you Asha on the last point about HR not coming forward and patronising other contestants. He is making it a sort of an emotional battle to push and patronize Vineet, far beyond Vineet's own abilities. The reason why he is not pushing other new additions to his gharana, because he will not get to take the sole credit for their success as somewhere other mentor's have been involved in their grooming. His attitude is clearly prejudiced and childish in the way he picks fights with the other mentors over Vineet.

Can HR say that Nihira, Hemachandra, Himani, Paresh and others are less deserving than Vineet.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: kaboo123

I agree with you Asha on the last point about HR not coming forward and patronising other contestants. He is making it a sort of an emotional battle to push and patronize Vineet, far beyond Vineet's own abilities. The reason why he is not pushing other new additions to his gharana, because he will not get to take the sole credit for their success as somewhere other mentor's have been involved in their grooming. His attitude is clearly prejudiced and childish in the way he picks fights with the other mentors over Vineet.

Can HR say that Nihira, Hemachandra, Himani, Paresh and others are less deserving than Vineet.

VERY WELL SAID, DIL KI BAAT CHEEN LI.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: scs07



absolutely correct... he deserves all the support he is getting from HR... was amazing yet again in this week's "patta patta buta buta..." just perfect...


I do agree, that vinit is the best of all . moreover HR is devoting all his energy moudling only on vinit. that is not fair. I saw one of the video of ID [uncensored] teaching paresh wherein he is doing mistake and he asked him to repeat that line to sing again and again and appreciated paresh for picking up very well. [ vinita could not pick up the sur and finally he gave a different song.to her] now a days paresh's performance is not having the quality which he had initially and it shows that HR is not paying much attention to maintain the quality of voice clarity which paresh had before. Moreover paresh has come all the way to take part in C2005 from UK and being NRI he shd be properly guided wherever he is weak. that is not happening. HR is giving a lip service to paresh that u sang very well etc etc with an additional comment that u will get half of the vote for your personality and why did u wear the topi etc.[as if only vinit is entiltled to wear the topi in his gharana] No mentor has uttered such a comment on their gharana's participant. basically paresh appears to be little reserved and he shd be encouraged as he is solely depending on the mentors. paresh has good potential but he shd be simulatneously encouraged by the mentors also. In one of the episode I heard paresh singing husn wale tera jawab nahin [a very difficult song of mohd rafi] was fantastic and mindblowing.[appreciated by each and every mentors and judge] but now LP's composition yeh reshmi julfe was not upto that standard compared to the old one .. He shd be groomed by HR sincerely as long as he is in his gharana. that is his responbility to give uniform treatment to all his participants of his gharana and give chance to paresh and ujjaini also in his film who deserve.

Edited by asha rao - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: asha rao


I do agree, that vinit is the best of all . moreover HR is devoting all his energy moudling only on vinit. that is not fair. I saw one of the videoof ID[uncensored] teaching paresh wherein he is doing mistake and he asked him to repeat that line to sing again and again and appreciated paresh for picking up very well. [ vinitacould not pick up the sur and finally he gave a different song.to her] now a days paresh's performance is not having the quality which he had initially and it shows that HR is not paying much attention to maintain the quality of voice clarity which paresh had before. Moreover paresh has come all the way to take part in C2005 from UK and being NRI he shd be properly guided wherever he is weak. that is not happening. HR is giving a lip service to paresh that u sang verywell etc etc with an additional comment that u will get half of the vote for your personality and why did u wear the topi etc. No mentor has uttered such a comment on their gharana's participant. basically he appears to be little reserved and he shd be encouraged as he is solely depending on the mentors. paresh has good potential but he shd be simulatneously encouraged by the mentors also.In one of the episode I heard paresh singing husn wale tera jawab nahin [a very difficult song of mohd rafi] wasfantastic and mindblowing. but now LP's composition yeh reshmi julfe was not upto that standard compared to the old one .. He shd be groomed by HR sincerely as long as he is in his gharana. that is his responbility to give uniform treatment to all his participants of his gharanaand givechance to paresh and ujjaini also in his film. who deserve.



I personally feel that HR is a bit of misfit in the league of the other 3 music directors, as he is relatively new, and his music composition by contemporary standard may be succesful, but he certainly does not have the experience and range of the likes of AS, JL, ID, Anu Malik so to speak.

I think what has bugged him dearly is the fact that he lost most of his contestants early on. Had he focused on providing the right sort of training and guidance to his contestants, that could have been avoided. He has not been able to churn out the quality of participants that ID, AS and even JL have. The judges have been fair and hail from very distingusihed backgrounds, so HR has no one to blame except himself. He is now desperate to make Vineet win so that it goes as one up on his sleeve.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: rrajivv

This is a guess, but most likely, HR has taken a challenge or a bet of some kind with AS that he is going to make Vinit a superstar. Thats why we see AS always trying to play down Vinit, sometimes quite unfairly and HR trying to prop him up, which also does look over-dramatic. So now it looks more like a contest between AS and HR with Vinit being just a little pawn. Anyway, Vinit sure is benefitting from the duel. I think Vinit is a pretty good singer...so he does deserve a little bit of success.

Ofcourse vinit deserve more success [not only little bit as u mentioned.] magar AS aur HR ke chakkar mein sirf vinit ko zyada mahathva dhena teek nahin, inke saath saath doosronh kho liye bhi apna dhyan dena hai. kahin vinit ko jitane ke chakkar me doosron ko upar a-nyay nahin hona chahiye. bas yehin kehna hai mujhe. agar paresh thoda mehnat kare tho woh vinit ko chutti degha isliye shayad HR paresh ko aage nahin aane detha hai aise lagta hai mujhe. thabhi tho vishwas ko nahin layaa kyon ki woh bhi ek accha chunauthi dene walo mein se ek hai. aur vinit ke liye khathra banega.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I hate himeshji too. He is promoting or forcing vinit to public by telling he is india's future.
vinit do so many mistake but HR's is always praising him.
He is doing injustic to paresh and ujjaini
Vinit is not at all grate singer. Debooji and HEMA is much better then him
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrspetloverUS

I do not think HR is discriminating at all. I agree with what SCS07 and Sunsha has posted. If I were HR I would be backing up Vinit all the way too because he has been his student from the beggining & HR has invested alot in him. Ofcourse Vinit has not let HR down either. Vinit has been performing upto HR's expectations also. Paresh & Ujjaini have not been that consistant with their performances & it will take them time to prove themselves to HR and earn the same support. Remember this is Guru/Shishya relationship & seniority definately helps 😉 .

Very well said MrspetloverUS....fully agree with you word to word.....

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