Discussion of the week:Krishnaji

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Posted: 16 years ago
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JSKianz,

I am a devotee of Maryada purushottam Ram. I think everyone should follow the path taught by him. As far i know, ram ji is Lord Vishu's avatar.


On the other hand, Krishna is also an avatar of Lord Vishnu; yet is so different from Ramji. I know that the situations during Satyayug and Dwaparyug were different, but what was reason to have 1000's of wives? For this reason, I have never been able to accept Krishnaji as my bhagwan. However, i consider Bhagwat Geeta as a blessings to mankind from krishnaji.

What are your views regarding Krishnaji's character?

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: dharam-veer fan

JSKianz,

I am a devotee of Maryada purushottam Ram. I think everyone should follow the path taught by him. As far i know, ram ji is Lord Vishu's avatar.


On the other hand, Krishna is also an avatar of Lord Vishnu; yet is so different from Ramji. I know that the situations during Satyayug and Dwaparyug were different, but what was reason to have 1000's of wives? For this reason, I have never been able to accept Krishnaji as my bhagwan. However, i consider Bhagwat Geeta as a blessings to mankind from krishnaji.

What are your views regarding Krishnaji's character?

Hi n jai shri ram ...
Good to know u r devotee of Shri Ram and u r absolutely right that Lord Ram n Lord Krishnaji are Vishnujis avatar... a very simple theory see... one Amitabh bachhan or any actor play diff roles in diff movies...
same is the case here..
Vishnuji is the actor who took diff avatars in diff Yugas.... and acted accordingly .....
U said u r a Ramji devotee , plz go n read Ramayan .. u ll get no. of females who love Ramji and wanted him to be their husband but as Ramji was Maryada Purushottam and promised Sitaji for one-female man(thats ek patni vrat) so Ramji promised all those females that u all do tapasya I ll marry u all in my Krishna Avatar ......
Theres no diff in Ramji n Kriishnaji ... they are one n thats Vishnuji....
Mainly Krishnaji got married with Satyabhama, Rukmini and Jambavati...
After Ramjis avatar, theres one more ansh-avatar of Vishnuji ... Nar-Narayan
Theres a story where Indraji send 16050 apsara to distueb tapasya of
Nar-Narayan tapasya but they were failed to do so ... and Nar showed his power of Tap by creating many apsara from his power.....
All 16050 apsaras got impressed by narayan and prayed him to marry all...
Narayan repl I m brahmachari and cannot marry , but dont get disheartened
as i ll marry u all in Krishna Avatar.....
hence Krishnaji has more than 16000 wives....
Now say Is he wrong???????????????????
I dont find him wrong in any way .......
Gods are never wrong... always u can see some or the other reasons behind everything .........
Krishnajis character is very strong , he fulfilled everyones dream ... as the best son with Yashoda ma , best husband with all wives best friend ....
Edited by rupalip - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip


Hi n jai shri ram ...
Good to know u r devotee of Shri Ram and u r absolutely right that Lord Ram n Lord Krishnaji are Vishnujis avatar... a very simple theory see... one Amitabh bachhan or any actor play diff roles in diff movies...
same is the case here..
Vishnuji is the actor who took diff avatars in diff Yugas.... and acted accordingly .....
U said u r a Ramji devotee , plz go n read Ramayan .. u ll get no. of females who love Ramji and wanted him to be their husband but as Ramji was Maryada Purushottam and promised Sitaji for one-female man(thats ek patni vrat) so Ramji promised all those females that u all do tapasya I ll marry u all in my Krishna Avatar ......
Theres no diff in Ramji n Kriishnaji ... they are one n thats Vishnuji....
Mainly Krishnaji got married with Satyabhama, Rukmini and Jambavati...
After Ramjis avatar, theres one more ansh-avatar of Vishnuji ... Nar-Narayan
Theres a story where Indraji send 16050 apsara to distueb tapasya of
Nar-Narayan tapasya but they were failed to do so ... and Nar showed his power of Tap by creating many apsara from his power.....
All 16050 apsaras got impressed by narayan and prayed him to marry all...
Narayan repl I m brahmachari and cannot marry , but dont get disheartened
as i ll marry u all in Krishna Avatar.....
hence Krishnaji has more than 16000 wives....
Now say Is he wrong???????????????????
I dont find him wrong in any way .......
Gods are never wrong... always u can see some or the other reasons behind everything .........
Krishnajis character is very strong , he fulfilled everyones dream ... as the best son with Yashoda ma , best husband with all wives best friend ....



Jai Shree Ram!

Rupali, thanks for your reply. As per the reason given by you, many ladies wanted to marry Ramji as well, but he never married anyone else except Sita maa . [btw i have read ramayan]

Well many ladies would want to marry Srk or Imran Khan, but would it be fair if they marry 10-15 ladies??
Just because those apsaras prayed to marry Vishnuji doesn't mean that he should grant those wishes to them even though it is wrong. Some things are wrong and it shouldn't be done.
And about "gods are never wrong" I disagree, even gods make mistake.
For example: Parvati maa asked ganesh bhagwan not to let anyone come inside the gufa as she was praying[ i think.] At that time, Shivji came there, and asked ganesh bhagwan to let him go inside. Ganesh bhagwan didnt let him go inside. Thus the furious Shivaji cut ganesh bhagwan's head. Later on, Shijii came to know that Ganesh bhagwan is actually his son, and was merely obeying his mother's order.

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Jai Shree Ram!

Rupali, thanks for your reply. As per the reason given by you, many ladies wanted to marry Ramji as well, but he never married anyone else except Sita maa . [btw i have read ramayan]

Well many ladies would want to marry Srk or Imran Khan, but would it be fair if they marry 10-15 ladies??
Just because those apsaras prayed to marry Vishnuji doesn't mean that he should grant those wishes to them even though it is wrong. Some things are wrong and it shouldn't be done.
And about "gods are never wrong" I disagree, even gods make mistake.
For example: Parvati maa asked ganesh bhagwan not to let anyone come inside the gufa as she was praying[ i think.] At that time, Shivji came there, and asked ganesh bhagwan to let him go inside. Ganesh bhagwan didnt let him go inside. Thus the furious Shivaji cut ganesh bhagwan's head. Later on, Shijii came to know that Ganesh bhagwan is actually his son, and was merely obeying his mother's order.

I just given ex that ctors do diff role meant that Vishnuji , Ramji , krishnaji are same...
But they are God n these actors are just human being ......
Krishnaji used his leela and always remain present with everyone ....
There are reasons behind everything.... what all u said is absolutely right... but see Ganeshji also had a story ... always we worship Ganeshji as the first God and without praying him no one start work... Ganeshji got this and more boons from all God only after all this head cut part....
just 2-3 days backI heard this on Tv that it all happened due to houses(9 planets) that shivji couldnt controlled anger and did all this....
I personally think all these stories are someway connnected to each other....
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Posted: 16 years ago
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the author of this post dharamveer ,u hv no right to say anything like this demeaning types to LORD KRISHNA !!! & FOR HEAVEN SAKE DON'T COMPARE OUR GOD TO SRK OR ANY OTHER FILM ACTOR ,i am asking mods to close this topic !!!!

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Sita : I have not demeaned Krishna ji in any way. I just wanted to know what was the reason for Krsihanjii to marry 1600 woman.
Btw, god himself has said-" question anything you find is wrong" ..and i am doing that in a civilized manner😊

Originally posted by: sita11

the author of this post dharamveer ,u hv no right to say anything like this demeaning types to LORD KRISHNA !!! & FOR HEAVEN SAKE DON'T COMPARE OUR GOD TO SRK OR ANY OTHER FILM ACTOR ,i am asking mods to close this topic !!!!

Edited by dharam-veer fan - 16 years ago
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Jai Shree Ram!

Rupali, thanks for your reply. As per the reason given by you, many ladies wanted to marry Ramji as well, but he never married anyone else except Sita maa . [btw i have read ramayan]

Well many ladies would want to marry Srk or Imran Khan, but would it be fair if they marry 10-15 ladies??
Just because those apsaras prayed to marry Vishnuji doesn't mean that he should grant those wishes to them even though it is wrong. Some things are wrong and it shouldn't be done.
And about "gods are never wrong" I disagree, even gods make mistake.
For example: Parvati maa asked ganesh bhagwan not to let anyone come inside the gufa as she was praying[ i think.] At that time, Shivji came there, and asked ganesh bhagwan to let him go inside. Ganesh bhagwan didnt let him go inside. Thus the furious Shivaji cut ganesh bhagwan's head. Later on, Shijii came to know that Ganesh bhagwan is actually his son, and was merely obeying his mother's order.

The reason why he married those 16000 women was that they were kidnapped by a demon. Krishnaji freed all of them from his captivity. In those times, nobody would have married those girls hance Krishnaji gave them a social status..in other words, krishnaji ne unka uddhar kiya. U & I a human beings and we can't decide on their doings as "right" or "wrong" . We have a limited mind. What we see aroung us, we act accordingly and we develop preconceived notions of whatz right and whatz wrong.
Krishna avtaar was a "poorna avtaar" of Vishnu. Krishna was born with 16 kalayein while Lord Ram was born with 13 kalayein. I don't wanna demean any of God's avtaar but looking from an angle of an ordinary human being, even i can say that even if Ram practiced ek patni vrat , he took agni pareeksha of his wife and disowned her knowing tht she was pure. Even i can point out mistakes in his character. but like i said, an ordinary being wud think like this. but God has his own ways. What they do cannot be totally comprehendable by our limited thinking. ...If the characters of Mahabharat are analyzed closely the same way , then one will come to a conclusion that all of them were wrong in some way or the other.....
Draupadi had 5 husbands that doesn't demean her character. We can't blindly follow whatz written in our puranas and epics..Krishnaji did raas leela with the gopis....He had 16,108 wives, he did a lot of "leela" as Krishna.....
We're talking about Krishna avtaar...Many Gods have more than one wife. ..Now u cant say tht whoever has one wife is good and whoever has more than one wife is bad that's how it is.....
Charu
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The reason why he married those 16000 women was that they were kidnapped by a demon. Krishnaji freed all of them from his captivity. In those times, nobody would have married those girls hance Krishnaji gave them a social status..in other words, krishnaji ne unka uddhar kiya. U & I a human beings and we can't decide on their doings as "right" or "wrong" . We have a limited mind. What we see aroung us, we act accordingly and we develop preconceived notions of whatz right and whatz wrong. O so, this is why Krishnaji married 16000 women. This reason is indeed convincing...Thanks for telling me abt Charu.
Krishna avtaar was a "poorna avtaar" of Vishnu. Krishna was born with 16 kalayein while Lord Ram was born with 13 kalayein. I don't wanna demean any of God's avtaar but looking from an angle of an ordinary human being, even i can say that even if Ram practiced ek patni vrat , he took agni pareeksha of his wife and disowned her knowing tht she was pure. Even i can point out mistakes in his character. but like i said, an ordinary being wud think like this. but God has his own ways. What they do cannot be totally comprehendable by our limited thinking. ...If the characters of Mahabharat are analyzed closely the same way , then one will come to a conclusion that all of them were wrong in some way or the other.....Ramji trusted sita maa; he knew sita maa was pure. however, his praja did not trust sita maa, and as a king his first duty is to keep his praja happy. Thus, he had to take Sita maa's agni parikshya to make his praja believe that sita maa is pure as ganga.
Draupadi had 5 husbands that doesn't demean her character. Draupdi had 5 husbands because she prayed to Lord Shiva and asked a boon from Lord Shiva that her husband be Strong, handsome etc. Little did Draupadi know that all these characteristics cannot be found in one man. Thus, she had to marry the Pandavs. Draupadi's character is strong, and I respect her. We can't blindly follow whatz written in our puranas and epics..Krishnaji did raas leela with the gopis....He had 16,108 wives, he did a lot of "leela" as Krishna.....
We're talking about Krishna avtaar...Many Gods have more than one wife. ..Now u cant say tht whoever has one wife is good and whoever has more than one wife is bad that's how it is.....
Charu
Edited by dharam-veer fan - 16 years ago
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The reason why he married those 16000 women was that they were kidnapped by a demon. Krishnaji freed all of them from his captivity. In those times, nobody would have married those girls hance Krishnaji gave them a social status..in other words, krishnaji ne unka uddhar kiya. U & I a human beings and we can't decide on their doings as "right" or "wrong" . We have a limited mind. What we see aroung us, we act accordingly and we develop preconceived notions of whatz right and whatz wrong.
Krishna avtaar was a "poorna avtaar" of Vishnu. Krishna was born with 16 kalayein while Lord Ram was born with 13 kalayein. I don't wanna demean any of God's avtaar but looking from an angle of an ordinary human being, even i can say that even if Ram practiced ek patni vrat , he took agni pareeksha of his wife and disowned her knowing tht she was pure. Even i can point out mistakes in his character. but like i said, an ordinary being wud think like this. but God has his own ways. What they do cannot be totally comprehendable by our limited thinking. ...If the characters of Mahabharat are analyzed closely the same way , then one will come to a conclusion that all of them were wrong in some way or the other.....
Draupadi had 5 husbands that doesn't demean her character. We can't blindly follow whatz written in our puranas and epics..Krishnaji did raas leela with the gopis....He had 16,108 wives, he did a lot of "leela" as Krishna.....
We're talking about Krishna avtaar...Many Gods have more than one wife. ..Now u cant say tht whoever has one wife is good and whoever has more than one wife is bad that's how it is.....
Charu

agree with u charu

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