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Posted: 17 years ago
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True Megha . But Menaka in Betiyaan , conniving though she is , respects her mother in law Baa .....her enemity is only towards her rival , Savitri . We dont see Menaka resorting to tactics like poisoning Baa/s food etc ....there is even a scene where while giving instruction to the cook she explicitly tells him not to make sweet kheer in the menu as Baa has diabetes . In her own selfish way , she is quite respectful to Baa . In Saat phere , we see Tara sometimes talking back quite a lot to Bhabho and Kaveri is way overboard in her treatment of elders . She talked back to Narpat as if she was a dog , and Ambika is treated worser .
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Samar I believe love Kaveri or who he believes Kaveri to be, by all indication. But I agree the person he loves the most is Nikita and Kaveri is aware of this. Deep down he knows Kaveri doesn't love Nikita – this was evident when she told him she was pregnant, he had doubts on behalf of Nikita. She also very threathen by Nikita hence the kidnapping. I however believe that Kalika is going to come to Ginni aid and give her the idea of trying to get back her child. That's the way to really hurt Samar…..

I am afraid I see the Tara/Saloni situation different. Tara has never asked for Saloni to sacrifice so she owes nothing to Saloni. Saloni was never promised anything in return so she should expect nothing. However one would expect Tara to have some gratitude and appreciation for what Saloni did. However, bear in mind in Tara's mind she has equated Aditiya's return only to KJT.

The present situation is Tara was made to believe that due to Saloni action of paying the money the poison was link to Brijesh's company and as a result the only way to free Brijesh was Kalika had to drink the poison.

Let's for the moment agree that Saloni action was thought less and she made a mistake. Tara had a chance to now show her appreciation to Saloni or make a sacrifice and forgive Saloni. What she did is mercilessly hound Saloni? That was allowed to happen by the elders. Saloni could not say Bhabisa remember what I did? That's in poor taste. Saloni is feeling guilty/responsible because all the evidence (planted by Kalika) points to her guilt.

In the pooja room – Bhaboo should have retorted to Tara – agreed that Kalika should do the Pooja but that's not the way. You should not have disrepected Saloni. Brijesh should have stop Tara. Watch yestersday's episode Tara answered Kakasa while every-one stayed quiet. She attempted to also intervene when Kakasa was thrasing Brijesh when he slapped Dheer. He also made Brijesh apologize to Dheer. How come it's okay for Tara to get away with screaming at Saloni?

I saw the episode with Saloni's mother coming to visit Tara left the woman standing on the door-step after shouting at her. Saloni begging for forgiveness all the time I agree is enough . But if you look careful at any situation one person normally has to compromise. Saloni is compromising to keep the peace and she doesn't feel it's belittling her. For us we don't want her too. As Kaveri has developed into an ungrateful person so has Tara. When she took away the Tala from Saloni I had flashes of Kaveri.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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judy p
About ur point of elders taking up for Saloni .....I agree to it partially . It is a joint family , and yes , elders shud intervene and make the wrong person understand . Brijesh , to his credit , did not like Tara's behaviour and frankly , Bhabho shud not have stopped Brijesh from going and talking to Tara . Infact she shud have encouraged it . That please make ur wife understand . And even I will talk to her .....that wud have double effect .
My point is , ultimately , others can only stand upto a limit for u if ur being hounded . Nahar shud speak for Saloni , Brijesh shud speak for Saloni , Bhabho shud speak for Saloni , ........how long ? Once they will speak , twice perhaps.....then what will they do ? Ultimately its upto the person who is being hounded to stop this . If the silly person who is hounding u is showing signs of not stopping , isnt it necessary to stop him or her ?
I really do not think pointing out things realistically is unclassy or rude .....there is a way of doing it . A way of resolving an issue is always by talking .....not by remaining silent . As rainabow very rightly pointed out , in Teen Bahuraniyaan , the bahus Janki and Manjeet were very respectful to the elders but when they were wrong they firmly asserted themselves . No mummyji , Im sorry , ur wrong . This isnt true at all mummyji . Ii is very obvious that Tara's memory is weak .....so it needs a jog . Why wud I jeopardise Brijesh bhaisa when all i wished and did for u to this point is only sacrifice even when I was pregnant ? Have u forgotten so soon Bhabisa that to presrve ur marraige i almost destroyed my own and did everything in the world to save Advitiya whom i regard as my own child.....how can u think this way of me .....Im very very hurt ! Saying this is not replying back ....or doing cheap back talk , or in bad taste .....it is human and perfectly true . Apologising constanttly for crimes u have not commited in ur wildest dreams is certainly not the answer .....it gives the foolish person making the mistake a notion that she is right . Whereas a spirited defence sometimes makes her re think her actions in calmer moments and halts her flow .
I come from a joint family and Ive seen a lot of pros and cons of the joint family system . My grandma , one of 4 daughter in laws was treated very unfairly by her mother in law as she clearly favoured another daughter in law as she was related to her through her maayka . My grandma was widowed too very early and she survived in such a big joint family with one child in those days .....with no mother in law favouring her and at the mercy of three brother in laws and their wives and children.....imagine the life she must have led . But she took no nonsense from anyone and firmly handled falsehoods and stupid blames . She did all her duties , but never took nonsense ever . So much , that even her brother in laws respected her and the mother in law who hounded her was wary of her . But when her mother in law was sick and dying , she called out only for my grandma to nurse her ....she had more confidence in her than the other daughter in laws . And my grandma did it day and night till the old lady passed away everyone in the family remembered it for years after my grandma died .....how she was as a bahu .
Unfortunately we hardly see humans in the serial only extreme godly behaviour which is unbelievable.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I totally agree on your point when Bhaboo stopped Brijesh – I felt the same way when she consistently stop Nahar from talking to Saloni when she was breaking her vows. I also agree that the best stance for Saloni is to stand up to Tara, one should stand up for oneself but do you really think that the character Tara has reached that stage of development to come away with understanding Saloni. She has never been taken to task except when Nahar was angry with her. Bhaboo pointed out to her, Brijesh pointed out to her and she said they always supported Saloni. What difference would it make for Saloni to stand up to her? Most proabably what she would say is " Why are you reminded me of all your good deeds, do you think I have forgotten what I owe you"

What I believe the character Saloni should do is cease apologizing and asking for anything from Tara. Stop apologize and leave Tara with her opinions. Don't show her no anomosity but stop begging for her love. If she wants to think ill of me let her.

For Tara to learn she has to lose Saloni to appreciate what Saloni was to her. It's sad but people like Tara need to stand on their own feet to understand/appreciate what others has gone through. Since I start to watch this show Tara has always been taken care of, my mother reminded me of a scene when Brijesh came home he called Saloni to bring him chai not his wife.

To be honest Tara forgive Saloni after she does something is worthless because it implies I must purchase your forgiveness.

If you would permit me to say your Grandma had tremendous strength, she would have had to face great opposition.

Although the character Saloni is shown to have strength to sacrifice to me she is not invincible and she has deep insecurities from childhood. She is far from perfect or Godly.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Kaveri is pathetic. Only small children throw tantrums the way she does, and they quickly learn that such behavior is unacceptable. I don't care what the circumstances are. I think it's high time Ambika puts her foot down and gives Kaveri a well-deserved smack in the face. She would not take this kind of guff from her own children so why is she tolerating it from Kav? She does not have the right to behave this way in front of ANYONE, let alone her infinitely kind and patient saas.

Of course Ginni is better. She isn't dirty or shameful for being a prostitute. Not everyone lives a charmed life and some people have to do whatever they can just to survive. If you have no money and education, there isn't that much else you can do. I would actually say that most prostitutes are probably more like Ginni and less like Kajri.

If Samar marries Ginni, everyone wins. Samar gets kind and loving wife. Nikita gets a real mother who loves her. Ginni finally gets a proper home and a decent lifestyle. Ambika (and eventually Narpat) will both have a bahu who respects them. The only loser is Kaveri and she deserves it. Of course she'll annoy Ginni, but I think Ginni is tough enough to handle her, and as KS said Kaveri will go after anyone who marries Samar but it can't be expected that he'll stay single for life.

Naturally Samar will forgive Kaveri and bring her back, since these shows never seem to portray the right thing, but it would be nice to see him tell her "no" for a change.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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rainabow .....totally agree with ur views ......the best part being if ginny marries Samar everybody wins . How true .
judyp the best statement in your post [ btw i agree with ur latest post totally ] is that Tara forgiving Saloni after something happens is like purchasing forgiveness ......very very true . And thats what happens , right , she loses the baby to make queen Tara realise [ if she realises that is .yet to be seen .] ......
Dunno why the serialwallahs never realise this while sketching human characters .
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Kaveri's manners have always ben appalling towards olders and youngers. i would luv to see her breaking up with samar and i would luv it even more if she went out of the show 😀
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