16 jul: big things, little things - Page 3

nandini, the little picture-thingie under your name in the side bar is awesome!! i don't think i've ever seen prem ever smile like that?? is this from an episode???

Originally posted by: nandini90

arrey haan ur abs rite...y shud i be mad at myself...premeer ne toh mujhe engage kar diya itne saare kamom mein.......aur haan 3am

guess what? i'm at 4:30am!!! is the fact that i've a gang at home passed out in front of a movie a good excuse to be away on the forum at this hour???!!

or should i just hate prem even more!? 😆

Originally posted by: estee

real statutory warning this is a horrid bt,lt. think twice before reading this - 'cause i'm fretting. wrong place and time to fret 'cause the gang are not the tolerant sort. there was enough food to keep them occupied while we watched the show. but much whining started with our dissecting the show. girls-under-the-prem-influence and intolerant boys just don't get along! i've been given an hour to "get it out of your system, before we do it by sitting on you". so here i am. and i have dark shadows in my mind.

* big thing? little thing? stoopid estee thing?: flashbacks! flashbacks galore. and they are all of some of my most beloved prem moments. the start of the jail sequence. prem begging before gayatri-mom. prem wet in a blue shirt cuddling heer for all to see. and suddenly i got paranoid? why only those of what i consider some of the best prem scenes? is it just a coincidence? is there a darker reason? have i truly lost it? 😆

and the sight of prem at the window, rocking ever-so-slightly as if in a train, wasn't enough to lighten the shadow that was born.

(i want to know: were the shots of a moving train? couldn't have been an actual moving train. did anyone else notice that hc, dqazi, nihaal's actor were actually shaking as if in a moving train? that was rather amazing.)

I can so understand what you felt, Estee. I couldnt concentrate or should I say that I was trying not to concentrate too much on Premeer scenes as my mom was watching the episode with me. Apparently she did forget the time but decided to sit with me. Out of habit I started to watch the serial and then realised that my mom was with me. So i switched to another channel and decided that I will see this one later. But too late, my mom ordered me to switch the channel back to "heer". Yes, those were her exact words...."heer". Then the next is history........I had to watch the entire episode with her as she knows how much of a regular viewer I am of this show.
I seriously know how it feels..................

Originally posted by: estee

* little thing: liked meher going with prem to wash-face-hands. they seem to be wash-face-hands pals. 😆

Originally posted by: estee

* big thing: ooh, big intrigue. nihaal's mom recognising heer's chain... oooooh... well, um. if the balaji telefilms people want us to get excited about these little red herrings, they should stop throwing new characters in the show like grain for the pigeons! we've been linking nihaal into the maan family on far flimsier evidence! 😆

Frankly speaking, nowadays, I think that the Balaji creatives steal our ideas. All the stuffs that we post for fun or just as predictions...........they take it.

Originally posted by: estee

* big thing: a conversation between heer and prem!!!! do you realise this is one of the first general, part-of-life kind of conversations these two have ever had? and what was it like? it was boring. anyone sitting outside of the hallowed circle of our forum would look at the two and ask: are you sure these are not people who have been together for a 100 years and have become fossils? who talks like this, damnit?? (considering i had a bunch of six macho dudes stuffing their faces around me, i'm not kidding about this!)

the absurd thing is - i struggled with tears seeing prem-heer here. this is how they are. quiet, boring. and will burn with conviction when the occassion demands. i wanted to hug them and apologise to them. tell them "see. this is how it is done. this is how it ought to be. i'm so desperately sorry that you've had to go through such hell. i wish that you could be this boring and quiet and peaceful for the rest of your life."

and the feeling continued through their little prayers. heer praying for old relationships to heal. prem - sigh, prem! - praying for whatever heer wants. after spending all of yesterday saying that prem is perfect, he goes ahead and use yet another wayto show he is. that's his thing. then why do i wonder why he has to be this perfect? i hate prem, damnit.

why, why, why did they have to show this episode today. why when i don't have the space and time to cry?

You are so right..........Their normal conversation is so abnormally boring. I was like.......let Prem and Heer be like this for the entire episode, no romantic glances, my mom is here.............but alas, they had their cute eye-locking scene. I tried to switch the channel but my mom took the remote!!!!! That eye-locking scene was so sweet but I had to stare here and there to stop myself from smiling adoringly...........

Prem is perfect! I admit it. Why did he have to ask for Heer's wishes to come true. Why couldnt he just ask something more selfish? Maybe a good picture of his daddy dearest to keep inside the wallet!😆😆😆

Originally posted by: estee

* prem-heer thing: of course, the absurdly cute thing is that heer gazes upon prem praying (with that prem glow on his face). and when he is done, he returns the favour. seriously, when the priest started lifting his hand, i thought he was going to say "okay, you two, you're done - move it and gaze at each other somewhere else. other's need to pray here!" 😆

Same here, for once I thought the priest would say "get moving.........others are also here", but then I realised that this is a PCO booth type dialogue. But when the priest gave dhagas to Premer, my heart leapt to my hand. I knew we were up for a melting scene.

Originally posted by: estee

* enraging thing: and then they show laluchacha praying for a "gift for himself". is there a limit to how selfish this character can get??? in comparison to prem's little prayer, this one enraged me. why this episode today?

oooh, so right......Lallu is so selfish and Prem so selfless. Are the creatives sure that Lallu is Prem's real father and Gayatri isn't the biological mother. It ought to be vice-versa. This is hard to believe considering Prem's and Lallu's both physical and mental and emotional appearance............Again, are they sure that they are showing the right thing?

Originally posted by: estee

* little thing: preet doesn't like ashlesha! he looked very affronted at her followinghim into the praying place! this little scene also shows how no matter now new-age preet is, there are some old-age sensibilities that tie him to his pb's type of person. sweet.

I found that scene awfully weird. What was Ashlesha doing? It was like she was trying to move her body in the mid air or something. She was acting like a loose pendulam........Even if Preet liked her he would still have given her up after this. She was being so.........whatever.

Originally posted by: estee

* little thing: the daaijan lady acting stand-offish about praying at the mosque - she's prayed at the shiv mandir. nihaal's mom hurt. kulraj-di disturbed. all i can say is: new generation 2, old generation 0. (carrying on from yesterday's bt,lt)

First, they showed us that Nihal's mom (what's her name?), the old lady (what do they call her? Grandma?) and Kulraj (Does she seriously have Harman-nia?) along with the kids (what are we doing here? please mommy take us home?) standing outside the 'mazar' merely staring at it. What were they looking at? Trying to find where Meher and Harman has vanished or what? It was as if the 'mazar' had hypnotised them or they where looking at the landing spaceship which has come to deliver Lallu the rejection note that he isn't even welcomed among aliens............
And then after a really long time............Nihal's mom asked the old lady to come inside. And she refused!!!! Then why did she come..........just to shut Lallu up from his "koi aye to aye" dialogue or what? I am confused.

Originally posted by: estee

* little thing: a storm warning? okay, i had to burst out laughing. since when were there such early warning systems - so well organised! - in indian religious places? can you imagine the panic stampede that would happen???

either i'm seriously out of touch with my home land, or some people's delusions are getting seriously overstretched! there really should be a limit to dramatisation! 😆😆😆

Estee, I doubt that you are the one who is out of touch from your homeland.......its more likely that the balaji creatives are. And what was Preet and Ash doing? Everybody seemed as if they knew that they had to go somewhere but didnt know where. All of the people walked and walked but arrived nowhere. Anyway.....the way both Preet and Ash were staring at the speaker as if they were waiting for it to become some kind of aircraft to take them back safely to home. And then Ash spoke up that if anything happens to her then Preet should not marry. This really gave me back my laughs. And even Preet smiled............

Originally posted by: estee

* pointless thing: veera - ya, ya, we know she has no qualms about acting jeuvenile anywhere. what was new here is that she thinks kulraj-di is so out of it. in one word, boring and takes up time from what is important which is...

Lallu part two............she is such a damsel who causes distress. What was she doing with her eyes? Usually something is wrong with her hand but to day her eyes were dancing to some weird tunes. Her face reminded me of the dialogue........"rolling, chewing and phisloing". Her behaviour gave me the distinct feeling of her being under the influence of the demon from exorcist.......Lucifer.......except for that her eyes werent entirely rolled........she was just circling it.
By the way, Nihal and Ram lila together?! Seems like Veera will have her share of love-triangle. Where were the two going looking hither and tither? For praying or trying to find the spaceship to convince the aliens to take away Lallu? I like the idea of the latter one better.

Originally posted by: estee

* prem-heer behind a wire mesh: i nearly went up in blazes at the almost familiar sight of prem on one side of a wire mesh with heer on the other. yet another assault on my memories of the best prem-heer moments -- this is what i love the best of all!

except! except - then it was all in the dark, dark room, dark clothes, dark shadows in eyes, deep soft voice from prem, deep silence from heer. here, it is all light! blue light of the night (!evil cameramen, shamelessly pulling memory strings to reduce minds to vacuous spaces!) white light clothes, eyes shining with love up-front and in your face, deep voice from prem, lilting voice from heer, both ringing with the total conviction of their love for each other. without any forewarning, my non-existent heart got full. every knot that was tied, every prayer for happiness - and togetherness! go prem! - was a pull i felt tightening whatever ties my heart to where it is now. and those last two knots for "our happiness, today and all that wait in the future" -- is there any limit to how sweet things can be in a conversation between heer and prem?? how can these two stuff all the conversations that they had to have with each other, about who they are, what they want from life, what their dreams are -- all of that! -- into one set of eight sentences?? how?

they had me primed the moment i saw that wire-mesh. and then the arrow was shot. the aim was true - what else could it be? i was hauled in - what choice did i have?

if i weren't feeling so traumatised, i'd be applauding this show. every time - every single time - i think i know how high they can take it, they manage to surprise me.

as for what happened next, was there any question that the tears that were born of dark shadows of paranoia, would tremble and fall during this sequence? i'm never going to live this down. the only plus point is that the guys were beginning to whine and the girls were beginning to get irritated that they were distracting them from the prem-heer eye-lock. there was a fight brewing, and the only person who caught the tears was the one who is loony about prem. thank goodness for friends who quietly understand what it's all about.... thank goodness for eye conversations in real life.

This scene was so good...........but I again was trying not to concentrate and engage my mom in some kind of conversation. So I ended up telling her the story of Pride and Prejudice in brief. I didnt know what to do? But when they started showing the burying scene............that was the limit.........I had to focus back to where my heart was. And suddenly ma said, "that guy did that?" I asked "what?" Ma said " he shouted at that women (daljeet) like that" and I got all impressed and said proudly "yeah ma, thats Prem........" and then to hide my deep pride I said " thats Heer" and ma went like "I know! duh!"
Anyway, the best part was that how Prem kept wishing for their happiness and how Heer persistantly focused on wishing for his family's togetherness. Heer please listen to what Prem says and understand what he means...........he want you.

Originally posted by: estee

heer prayed for breaching of the distance between old relationships, the healing of old links. she thinks that she will get prem and his bauji together. but what she will be granted is her old relationship with laluchacha. and with the force of prem's prayers with her, this wish will be granted.

isn't it nice though that if this relationship does get healed, the prem-bauji relationship will also naturally heal? at least it should! unless laluchacha is going to be stoooooopidly stubborn about prem not having done as he wished! if he does this, i'm changing his name to old-goat! (i've good reasons to besmirch that animal's name, melissa, don't get me started!)

Estee, please start.............I would love to hear what you have to say. Okay let me start, when everybody was remembering about the past at the beginning of the episode did you notice where Lallu's head was turned towards. Daljeet!!!!!! Who else? Thogh his eyes were not directlu focused at her I could stay that he stoe every glance that he could to see his tired Daljeet. Yes, even the camera focused the scene starting from Daljeet's side.
Then when Lallu was praying, he was crying at his phooti kismat. I fell almost asleep in that scene and so did gayatri. But she may also have been praying for Lallu's early death, thats why they didnt let us hear what she wanted and she was so deep in concentration. Either she fell asleep or was praying for lallu's death, choose whatever suits you most. Lallu again disappointed me today..........his blabbering about his friend today made me doubt about his.......uhm uhm.......gender. How can he talk about his friend like that? Is that why his first wife died or should I say committed suicide, is that why he and Daljeet never got and never will get married because he liked Balraj better? Is that why, Balraj broke Heer and Prem's relationship but claimed it to be for another reason? So many unanswered questions.......and so many unacceptable deeds of Lallu.............I am confused.

Originally posted by: estee

i can't hate prem today. i can't. i'm ... my heart .. is too full. and i confess, i'm not looking forward to tomorrow. can i pray that i die before tomorrow? is there a divine entity out there who actually grants wishes?

No Estee, dont die..........its seriously okay not to hate Prem. But you can happily die if you start liking Lallu.........or let me do the honour of killing you.😆😆😆😆😆😆

Last but not the least, thanks for the awesome poem. I didnt know that there is a poet inside you........the poem was so funny and nice. Loved it. I have kept it as my cell's wallpaper. You rock!!!!

Luv
Melissa

Originally posted by: estee

nandini, the little picture-thingie under your name in the side bar is awesome!! i don't think i've ever seen prem ever smile like that?? is this from an episode??? do yu mean tht pic in which heer is also there??!!..in her red dress??!!!...it was their promotion photoshoot of the show at chandighar......2 pics r available from tht photoshoot..(too bad only 2).....



guess what? i'm at 4:30am!!! is the fact that i've a gang at home passed out in front of a movie a good excuse to be away on the forum at this hour???!!

or should i just hate prem even more!? 😆*haila*...there's nuthing wrong in u hating prem more yaar....4.30am??!!!!!....gosh......mujhe abh control mein rehna hoga😆😆😆.......my hands were itchy to watch prem's first attempt to propse heer(hotel scene)🥰🥰........i was like...shud i ?...or shud i not??!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

and there...u've got the best excuse i can see😆😆😆😆😆😆

go nandini!!! i hate them too! 😆😆😆omg....i cant belive i said tht.....how can they make me hate them??!!!!!........😆😆😆😆😆😆2 talented persons......😆😆

Originally posted by: NeIN

just didnt get you...fretting dark shadows....

you asked, and so i'm thinking about why i got so spooked during the episode.

i guess i have gotten used to misery? and the flashbacks that they showed were of, or at the beginning, of some of the episode sets that i think of as the most beautiful that i've ever seen. and i wondered - what the heck are they recalling these wonderful prem-heer episodes for?

i think you are right: it's just a really stoooopid me thing. and i really didn't have time to digest the show. or maybe i just got freaked out at having so much calm-peaceful-gently-smiling prem after so many days of misery?

i really don't know. it should bother me that i don't know. but i'm too tired right now -- it's nearly 5am here! i'm even too tired to hate prem - who i'm sure is at the heart of all this. but not now..

Originally posted by: NeIN

Hmmm i think these scenes are certain milestones in the serial.....they where shown again might be because another milestone awaits us.........now thats something usual i know but still unsual....

ya, good thought.

Originally posted by: NeIN

I dont think that was an actual moving train.....it might be their rocking skills....hope u got wht i mean...

😆 totally got you. i just thought these are remarkable actors to be acting being in a train! donchya think? 😆

Originally posted by: NeIN

Remembered u at this point...when prem was praying...you wanted to know yesterday what prem was praying....i know it might have been a diff prayer altogether....now this is something which touched me...prem is sure that heer wont ask for anything bad.....otherwise he would have never prayed to god to give heer whatever heer wants...his trust in heer....his love for heer ....

U still hate prem....

how sweet. you think that he was still praying that heer should get what she wants? not his father? how sweet.

and you don't hate prem?? confess!! he's impossible! he's driving me mad. 😆